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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: CandYlicious_S

I understand you point of view. But it is just too easy to ask someone to get over something with whom they were emotionally bonded.. She was his only relation in life who ACTUALLY was a source of affection and warmth for him... He still misses her ALOT!!

Regarding crying, I guess he is just like a coconut.. Appears astrong and muscular, but he is very emotionally weak.. He knows two ways to channel his pain. One is anger and one is by shedding tears in moments of loneliness..


Regarding Paro, every person has a different way of dealing with pain and loss.. She is VERY emotionally stable and has managed to accept life as it is..she is a girl who ACCOMMODATES according to her situations.. While Rudra cannot do it.. He becomes restless when he faces his fears..

Both are different in dealing with their respective pain. And this is portrayed very aptly up til now :)



ok that get over it part was probably my frustration over the situation coming out! sorry Sumi didn't mean to offend but it was like they after ages started on a proper emotional scene with Paro and in the middle when this was forced in (AFTER HE DID NOT recognize it at the hospital that time) i was annoyed.

cz this was not a preplanned thing cz he would have recognized it then too if it was the case!

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Every suffering is different.

Every person's reaction to it is different.

Not all human-beings are made of steel. Not all human beings are candyfloss.

And to tell someone to 'Get Over It' is

INSENSITIVE.

PLAIN INSENSITIVE.

I am actually shocked at this thread. Since when did pain and suffering become topics of debates and OPINIONS? Its such a de-humanized thing to do.
Edited by MoronsKiMallika - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Unlike Rudra... Paro had people who loves her & take care of her she had love while Rudra had nobody even his dad wasn't there for him because he was going through the same situation.

Paro had Mamisa & Thakurain who brought her up well they give her as much love as a mother would give her daughter. I personally find nothing wrong with Rudra still being emotion about his past it's quiet natural actually.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: princessunara



no worries, we will agree to disagree on this.. cz this disparity with the emotional side shows is actually making me annoyed so my sympathy lies less cz i feel as if 'if she is not bawling her eyes out why can't he man up too!'

anyway i respect ur POV


Hmm...there I guess they both deal differently with their pain...and she had a mami who lived her very much and a sister and a village who provided her a comfort ...!
Her current issue...she has resolved not to weaken in front of him!
But for him he has this facade of toughness and so any small thing sets him off!
I honestly think it's the unresolved nature if his mothers abandonment!

Which is why I felt irritated with that scene of thakur and her...where she asked him to sambhal her!
I felt it was very selfish of her...!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: princessunara



thanks Melek good to know i am not the only one to feel the disconnect!

well dear I am annoyed to see rudra cry every 5 minute
it would made more sence for me if he breaks down when he face his mother ,,but I feel nothing now,,seeing him cry every 5 minute

plus ,,,it's known that if someone cry over something he will feel better ,,,but here rudra cried for 15 years ,,is that even possible + he is a man for god sake
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: --ILoveSanaya--


well dear I am annoyed to see rudra cry every 5 minute
it would made more sence for me if he breaks down when he face his mother ,,but I feel nothing now,,seeing him cry every 5 minute

plus ,,,it's known that if someone cry over something he will feel better ,,,but here rudra cried for 15 years ,,is that even possible + he is a man for god sake



Men don't cry? When did men become robots?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Naach_Basanti

Princess, I haven't watched today's episode so can't comment on the context. But there is a lot if difference between grief and betrayal. You can't equate one with the other. It is always difficult to come to terms with the fact that the person you love the most, your mother left you and went away for someone else. Mutual divorce is again different than one of the parents running away.
And the other thing is that just because he is 28 yrs old and he is a man doesn't mean he can't be emotional and cry. Why do we expect men not to cry? Isn't that a wrong image. There has been an increase in suicide rates among men in the west in the last few years. The need to portray a macho image is stated as one of the reasons.

But I whole heatedly agree that Paro's pain isn't getting the focus it should.


sigh NB.. i was probably frustrated after waiting n waiting for the balance b/w the 2!
cz in a show u expect both sides to be given equal dignity and respect n space.. yet with the harping on his while ignoring hers was actually too much for me n i made the topic..

cz after a while u feel resentful that why is his side glorified just cz he is a man and hers swept under the carpet n expected to be kept hidden jsut cz she is a woman!
I think probably cz males write these shows maybe.. somehow i actually felt resentful as a woman!

n nah - i hated that in HP Harry didn't cry.. he thought that being a boy he shouldn't cry.. so this is not that.. but actually what i explained above..

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Posted: 11 years ago
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I understand where you're coming from Sunara.

Rudra has been portrayed as emotionally fragile. He simply hasn't moved on from that phase in his life. It happens to many people. His only relief stems from the tears he sheds when remembering his mother. His occupation is an outlet to figh his inner demons, eliminating betrayers.

Women are emotionally stronger. We can channel our hurt effectively. But then again it depends on the person too. His father never attempted to console his young child, instead heaped bitterness over his raw wounds his entire life. We all need someone, somewhere to stroke our head & reassure us there is still goodness around & Rudra has never had that... is it unbelievable then that he cannot be a mess within?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I understand your POV Sunara. But the problem is when his mother left, he was deeply hurt and suffered a betrayal. He is the wounded little child who never really healed. He didn't have anyone around him who could soothe him or help him get over it. His father was unable to provide him the solace he needed because he himself was bitter.

Paro atleast had her mami, cousin and friends who showered her with love and her situation was also different. Her parents had died and Rudra's mom abandoned him. Paro had a stable environment so she healed and she is far stronger emotionally.

What Rudra needed was love, care and possibly a mother figure which her aunt could have provided but didn't provide. He couldn't share his feelings and he kept it all bottled up, which results in occasional emotional outbursts.

I haven't seen today's episode yet so I can't really comment on it.

But I completely agree that they need to focus more on Paro's suffering as well to balance it out.

Edited by incandescent - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#30

Originally posted by: Naach_Basanti



Men don't cry? When did men become robots?


I think it's wrong to chastise Rudra for crying because he is a man!
This is probably what leads to this pseudo macho image where men never express anything!
His mother left him...boy girl man woman doesn't make a difference!
So is Dilsher also wrong...he is a man...he should have got over the fact that his wife left by now!

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