'You don't need to wear a patch on your arm to have honor.' - Page 10

Originally posted by: habs

Forgive me for this but have been meaning to ask you how big a fan you are of Anne of Green Gables? - Crazy mad???

Love your pic!!!

Gilbert Blythe - now there was an honorable man who owned his mistakes.

Originally posted by: serialjunkie

hola P,

i know what you are saying. My pathi dev's family is a group of Army Devotees. I can see the sense of propriety.

But, this is hardly a well researched drama in the ilk of say Homeland or House of Cards, both of which are eerily similar to real life happenings in CIA and Congress respectively.

To the kostin of Rudra being honorable - it depends on his social and military conditioning. What he has been taught and brainwashed to believe. He thinks he is hold the torch for honor, while as civilians we see human rights violations.

I don't think Rudra's actions are honorable - my personal opinion. But when one deals with terrorist suspects and traitors, as he seems to believe Paro is, armed forces of any country is known to use emotional tactics. Guantanamo, anyone?

and now i am mad at you Sem, for pulling me into analysis-paralysis with your sensible kostins. i am shutting up.

Originally posted by: Semanti

Wheee! I LOVE Anne of Green Gables. It's one of my all time favourites!

And Gilbert Blythe was my first fictional crush from when I was just about old enough to understand the concept. 😆

Originally posted by: habs

Well written!

No, he isnt' honorable. He may be fierce, loyal to his country and dedicated to a cause but an honorable man doesn't do what he did today. A man who is cornered and afraid and is striking back - that's what Rudy boy is. He is full of bitterness and hate and no one I've ever had the privledge of knowing who had honor had any of those qualities.

I admire his determination but I'm not liking him right now. I know people will justify and say he is cornered, his job means everything etc but to me that's not a good enough reason for his behaviour.

I wish Paro was the type of woman who could kick his ass - quite literally.

I definitely agree with you. By definition Rudra isn't honorable, however considering he might have an a skewed perception and definition of honor, I might give him time to redeem that honor? Look at the examples he has around them. Now before everyone jumps to slit my throat- No this isn't justification. But I don't believe everything is black and white. There is always shades of grey. Honor is more than wearing a badge, and saviing a woman several times. Honor is that even though you might be cornered, you are objectively able to fight back, and uphold your integrity, and dignity as well. I believe he posses all the qualities of being honorable, and having integrity, it is just being overshadowed by his bitterness and hate.

Originally posted by: Semanti

Ok, so I quote A Few Good Men all over the place. But it has a lot of feelz, so bear with me.

Today's question is-- Is Rudra Pratap Ranawat an honourable man?

I say that it's rather questionable.

Would an honourable man-- an honourable officer-- hold a defenseless young woman captive despite having NO concrete evidence against her?

Would an honourable man consider his prejudice against beautiful women adequate evidence to stand as judge, jury, and executioner over someone?

Would an honourable man continue threatening said witness with all manner of intimidation-- psychological, physical, and sexual and outright blackmail, in order to make her 'confess'-- to the point where she's ready to confess to whatever he was asking of her, irrespective of whether she did it or not?

Would an honourable man do all manner of dishonourable deeds to retain his uniform-- because it is a badge of honour?

I don't want to know about what happens in the asli duniya, on real borders. I want to know about what YOU think.

Is Rudra 'honourable'? And if he is not, how important is 'honour'? Is it overrated? Is it paramount? Or is it something that all of us pay lip service to, while secretly disregarding?

Originally posted by: -Sush-

Probably no point making this post...because we all are in such bad mood since Tuesday that we are ready to completely wash Rudra's character...nothing I say will help...

And of course the screen play is never so tight to tie all the loose ends...so if we get into the details...there are many things that may be found...

BUT let me try...before we all conclude that there is only one side to this and that is all negative...

By pointing just a tiny litle detail about the story they have made is

Rudra is keeping Paro in his house ...to keep her safe from the attempts on her life...

His plan was to send her back to her village after she testifies...but the plan backfired and the entire village refused to recognize her...something he wasn't expecting...and he found no cooperation from Mr. Singh...hence the last resort to take her to his house...

Now there is no end in sight of this impasse...while he is at the verge of losing his job...without proving the cause he has been fighting for...accepting that all the loss of life was in vein...

The situation at home is volatile and not sustainable...the marriage pretense was something that happened without his knowledge or approval...

So he is pressurizing Paro as the last resort...to get the truth out...with a time limit...

He has neither abused her sexually nor does he intend to...He has not harmed her in any way and actually has stayed as a shield between her and all harm...

So, the picture painted by your questions is one sided...and has no consideration for any of the above...

If you flip the question on its head...

Is is a dishonorable thing for Rudra to try to break Thakurs ring of prostitution under the pretense of false weddings and arm deals?

Is it a dishonorable thing for him to keep Paro at his house under the circumstances?

Is it dishonorable to play along the pretense that they are engaged?

Is it dishonorable to try and break this status quo?

While I understand we want the hero to be the super human to accomplish everything without harming anyone's feelings...perhaps a little leeway to the character will help us all...Just my opinion...l