'You don't need to wear a patch on your arm to have honor.' - Page 12

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Posted: 11 years ago
Its fiction Semanti... Anything can happen to being them close and together and if the CVs would have looked at the scenes making sense then all the hit shows would have flopped.
Though his act is not honourable in real life.But, the character of Rudra still pleases me. :)
All the work is done for TRPs and no morals or limits are involved.. :D
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sukhminderkaur7

Agree my dear. .this is a onesided post. ..what will TM say when paro will start loving this dishonorable man.


You say it like it's a bad thing-- falling in love with a 'dishonourable man' as you put it. 😆

Leaving aside the fact that we haven't come to any consensus about whether Rudra is a dishonorable man or not, even the men history paints in all-black had women in love with them. Would you say they were 'wrong'?
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Posted: 11 years ago
Sem interesting discussion. I'll be back later with my thoughts.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: SilentDreamer

I definitely agree with you. By definition Rudra isn't honorable, however considering he might have an a skewed perception and definition of honor, I might give him time to redeem that honor? Look at the examples he has around them. Now before everyone jumps to slit my throat- No this isn't justification. But I don't believe everything is black and white. There is always shades of grey. Honor is more than wearing a badge, and saviing a woman several times. Honor is that even though you might be cornered, you are objectively able to fight back, and uphold your integrity, and dignity as well. I believe he posses all the qualities of being honorable, and having integrity, it is just being overshadowed by his bitterness and hate.


Originally posted by: _Athena_

Its fiction Semanti... Anything can happen to being them close and together and if the CVs would have looked at the scenes making sense then all the hit shows would have flopped.

Though his act is not honourable in real life.But, the character of Rudra still pleases me. :)
All the work is done for TRPs and no morals or limits are involved.. :D


I agree wholeheartedly. We only overlook this because this is fiction. We'd hardly be having the same discussion if any of this was real. 😆

But it is interesting to note how far we make concessions for fiction and how much deviation we allow.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: CGBSSI

Hey,, but Rudra is not supposed to be '' honourable''.. From day 1 he is shown to be a professional who goes out of his way to perform his duties,,, The means may be not be '' moral'' but ultimately his intentions r quite clear..


Oh absolutely. So I wonder-- is it okay to accept a character's declaration that 'I am not honourable' and leave it at that? Isn't that a little bit like accepting a guy who says 'I am a chauvinist pig, so excuse my actions'?
I bet even Rudra has his own code of honour. It just may not match yours or mine.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Naach_Basanti

Sem interesting discussion. I'll be back later with my thoughts.


Always look forward to your comments, NB! 🤗
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Semanti



Yes yes, but plea bargaining would work if Rudra was accusing PARO (even if I leave aside all incongruities of process). Here, he is merely asking her to testify against Thakur. Rudra doesn't have a scrap of evidence against Paro and he knows it. So the question of avoiding a lengthy legal procedure doesn't arise-- which is the whole point of plea bargaining. He is just asking her to stand witness for the State. And has threatened all manner of violence if she doesn't, while agreeing to let up on the intimidation if she does. That is not plea-bargaining.

exactly...he is asking her to sign against thakur without any valid proof...a great officer thinks before he acts...it's not about acting with power, it's acting with your brains and he definitely doesn't have one...is this the way a witness suppose to be treated...sometimes I feel that I am watching a different show altogether...why would he want to protect her for any other reasons other than he needs her for his selfish reasons? He took the slap because he wanted to defy Mohini...he is a captor and is territorial with his prey...in other words no one has the right to punish his prisoner other than him...his little acts and dialogues are no better than kitchen politics for me. It almost seems that kaki is the new lead opposite Rudra...all I see kitchen politics going on between them.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Semanti



I agree wholeheartedly. We only overlook this because this is fiction. We'd hardly be having the same discussion if any of this was real. 😆

But it is interesting to note how far we make concessions for fiction and how much deviation we allow.

True that we wouldn't even be having this discussion if it were real.😆
We make concessions because of the fact that what we want to see, everything should be perfect in our telly soaps or different from the real world as they are a stress-buster from all the problems in our life.
And in all the chaos, we tend to forget how a thing should have been projected, and we run towards the things which please us.
So, the CVs also tend to being out all the CHAT MASALA in their heads to make the sequences interesting.
And as far as reality is concerned, even reality shoes have taken a backseat. 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: -Sush-


Probably no point making this post...because we all are in such bad mood since Tuesday that we are ready to completely wash Rudra's character...nothing I say will help...

And of course the screen play is never so tight to tie all the loose ends...so if we get into the details...there are many things that may be found...

BUT let me try...before we all conclude that there is only one side to this and that is all negative...

By pointing just a tiny litle detail about the story they have made is
Rudra is keeping Paro in his house ...to keep her safe from the attempts on her life...

His plan was to send her back to her village after she testifies...but the plan backfired and the entire village refused to recognize her...something he wasn't expecting...and he found no cooperation from Mr. Singh...hence the last resort to take her to his house...

Now there is no end in sight of this impasse...while he is at the verge of losing his job...without proving the cause he has been fighting for...accepting that all the loss of life was in vein...

The situation at home is volatile and not sustainable...the marriage pretense was something that happened without his knowledge or approval...

So he is pressurizing Paro as the last resort...to get the truth out...with a time limit...
He has neither abused her sexually nor does he intend to...He has not harmed her in any way and actually has stayed as a shield between her and all harm...

So, the picture painted by your questions is one sided...and has no consideration for any of the above...

If you flip the question on its head...
Is is a dishonorable thing for Rudra to try to break Thakurs ring of prostitution under the pretense of false weddings and arm deals?
Is it a dishonorable thing for him to keep Paro at his house under the circumstances?
Is it dishonorable to play along the pretense that they are engaged?
Is it dishonorable to try and break this status quo?

While I understand we want the hero to be the super human to accomplish everything without hurting anyone's feelings...perhaps a little leeway to the character will help us all...Just my opinion...l

hey sush 😊
the issue i feel with most of these show is shortsightedness , they want every day results , tvm/trps are taken every week , this i feel leads to changing the story line
like they had the adoption track (which i thought was a very sensitive topic) just to have the hug
and now this contract marriage

slight modification is acceptable but here i feel they take a few bench mark , if something has worked in a previous show you will find it in 10 other shows like a taunting saas

this i feel is the reason why many of the shows loss its charm in less than 6 months , because the originality and charm with which the show and characters are written is gone before you know
i dont have a doubt that these writers once given the freedom can write a tight script

the characterization of rudra should be what you mentioned , a guy very much capable of love and care but scared to accept and express i find it largely missing because instead of building the characters their attention is in keeping the salt on the roof shelf and saying madumaki

hilarious PPP posts , take five, your every day analysis on what you liked, for me that makes the show interesting , diagonally opposite view points on the same episode i find it very interesting



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Posted: 11 years ago
And as far as the patch is concerned, then there is no reality in it also, because Rudra wears the rank of a Colonel even though he is a Major. 😆

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