Its NOT Paro's JOB to fix Rudra!

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Frigate

@Frigate

Dazzler

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Posted: 11 years ago

#31

Great point and well analyzed/written! 👏

I also agree with your point on the show that shall not be named here. That was the question I had repeatedly asked and got a lot of flack during the heydays of that show! I was actually more interested in knowing why KKG fell in love with ASR! Or, how she came to the conclusion that he loved her (yeah, yeah he said it a few times, still nothing in his behavior was any indication of love!). I could only sense physical attraction between the couple.

Anyhoo, like SJ said earlier on this thread, suspension of disbelief is a requirement for keeping your sanity intact. A lot of these story lines probably have to do with TRPs, what the audience demands and sometimes believe it or not, reality. At least some writers/producers claim to... You and I, being urban and educated may sometimes be unaware of ground realities. 😕

I read a very interesting article in the economist about the desi saas-bahu shows a couple of months ago. Some parts of it are hilarious (yes, the economist articles can be funny sometimes😛 )! I read it on the plane a couple of months ago and must say I could barely contain a bemused smile and strange looks from fellow passengers ensued!😆

I found the article online if you are interested...

http://www.economist.com/news/christmas-specials/21591745-curse-mummyji

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DN2012

@DN2012

Dazzler

Posted: 11 years ago

#32

Originally posted by: Naach_Basanti
Completely and whole heartedly agree with you.

In real life no one would be with men like Rudra and the character who shall not be named. They all look great on screen, but beyond that they posses nothing that would make a relationship work- respect, love, trust and a willingness to adjust.

But having said that I have seen this happen in real life. Many families get their badly behaved son married to a girl in the hope that marriage will change them, their wife will fix them up. One of my close friends got married to such a guy who had anger issues and would end up beating her up. Their marriage had been arranged by his family who believed that a wife would make him reign hi anger.

To me personally this is a TV show. as long as they show a good character progression and show that the guy does change eventually, the guy is remorseful to his action and the guy in ways more than one redeems himself I'm happy to overlook this stereotype. Which is where the show that shall not be name failed miserably for me.

However the one thing I won't accept is domestic abuse being passed off as passion and intensity. I spoke against it strongly during past shows and will do so if it comes up after their marriage.

@ bold I am almost positive that they did not tell the female's parents about the son's problem,bringing her in and throwing her into the lion's den.yeah I have seen that happen with my relatives too

@bold and italics--me too.I am like what is going on??

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rafaya1

@rafaya1

Voyager

Posted: 11 years ago

#33

I agree with what you are saying

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aashna_30

@Faerydae

Rocker

+ 4

Posted: 11 years ago

#34

I am watching this show just because of ashish and he is doing a great job as Rudra. .nothing else.

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stg1

@stg1

Rocker

Posted: 11 years ago

#35

nice post, i agree with almost everything u say. i am surprised they seem to be jumping into a forced marriage and so quickly. and i'm kind of disappointed for all the reasons u've mentioned, even though i have been purposely keeping my expectations low. but i'm still waiting to see where they go with it, it may work. i'm not getting emotionally attached to the show or the characters and i'm not enjoying the saas-bahu drama, especially the kind of ridiculous taunting that passes for such a relationship. but i love watching sanaya and there's enough there for me to enjoy.

i dont connect to a lot of things on indian tv so i never watched it till 'the show that cant be named', and after that finished i tried looking for a good substitute but came up blank. even with its flaws and the issues i had with that contract marriage, and the aftermath, i connected to and loved both the characters so much that i let a lot of things slide and i still love it. and for me it worked because though the 'hate' was mostly one sided i always felt both characters were initially equals and both flawed and needy, just in different ways. but i've learnt my lesson, dont assume and dont expect anything, even the things that the makers have explicitly promised u!

i think there r about 3 or 4 love-hate stories on tv right now which i've tried sampling and the hero is ALWAYS flawed and it is always the heroines job to fix him. the degree of needing to be 'fixed' varies, sometimes there is redemption sometimes not, sometimes the hero is 'worthy' sometimes not so much. and what the heroine herself might need never seems to matter. i think the makers cant move away from this concept even when promising us something new and different and epic. i really would like to see them dealing with all the wider concepts they touched upon in the beginning, especially the othello angle, so lets see front front.

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Exprimere

@Exprimere

Voyager

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Posted: 11 years ago

#36

Of course, it is her job! Let me tell you why.

1. The soap world has a largely female audience. So, they need to make the female lead vulnerable, chaste, but deceptively independent. It may look like she has a voice, and is fiesty, but in reality, it's a lie- she's helpless. So they create Paro. Check.

2. The man. Is brooding, silent, serious, damaged hero. Everyone ends up feeling sorry for him. Therefore, all his anger, directed or misdirected, gets justified by that virtue. In the-show-that-cannot-be-named, was ASR's behaviour towards K in any way justified? MU, fine. But the ACTUAL behaviour, pushing, pulling, taunts, insults and thorowing her out. How is it completely justifiable? It is not. (I was fuming when there was no redemption track). Since we feel sympathy for the character, all such activities must be digested. By this logic, Ruddy is created. All requirements- check.

3. Note that the man is experienced. He has a scene with Laila. So he MUST be handsome, hot and desirable. Paro is chaste. Because if she was sexually active at all, we, like KCM would taunt her to death. That is why everyone hates Laila. Just calm down and have a look at Laila's character. She's been waiting 8 years for the guy, with unwavering devotion. She does have a not so happy story. But NOBODY looks at her perspective. Paro, on the other hand, desirable because of the constant reiteration of her being Khoobsurat, and other men (like Sumer) leching at her.

4. To combat all the love-hate cliche, man and woman will do things unintentionally for each other that will bring them closer.

5. There will be a confused adoration/love stage,

6. The woman will compensate all the vices in the man by nurturing him, and tolerating all the nonsense (abuse, and everything- packaged). She will successfully bring about a transformation.

7. Finally there will be Love and a Happy ending. What happens after the "happy" marriage, no one knows. They may suck at marriage, but really, no one cares.

All of this is not my creation. It is by a couple of amazing theorists who have studied and written books on the Romance Genres and daily soaps. Janice Radway and Tanya Modleski.

The biggest problem is, most unsuspecting young women lap this romance up. It could be potentially dangerous to life if you tolerate abuse- physical, or emotional. It normalizes violence. So even when one watches such shows they need to be aware of what is being preached.

I'm not implying stop watching the show. All I'm saying is, people need to be aware. Because in real life, if you are captured, or have an abusive husband, it is NOT romance, and it is not your job to put up with it. If you don't resist it, you might end up with an unhappy life.

See, I like the show, I watch it. But I don't keep, and must never keep, any expectations from it to benefit my own actions in life.

P. S Point 6. The tolerating can also include rape. Which becomes forgivable in at least a dozen Mills&Boons.

Edited by Exprimere - 11 years ago

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Sunara

@princessunara

Trailblazer

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Posted: 11 years ago

#37

Hi,

I agree very much so..

But well here r my points

If it was all so white it wouldn't be any fun watching. AND unlike in IPK I hope there is a PROPER redemption track.

Also another, the guy might be flawed.. BUT Paro wished for something, to belong to somebody fully and to have someone who was just hers. If their journey together gives her that in the form of Rudra the bumpy road might be worth it IF this becomes their journey and he changes. Another thing I have noticed is that the Jallad cannot bring himself to deliberately hurt her.

He has strong reasons to hate her on a none personal scale this time, its neither her aukat nor her class that is the issue he has with her. Its her suspected terrorist connections. Even despite that what I have noticed is that he cannot bring himself to hurt her, Not even to pin her to a wall hard enough to hurt her much even at a time when she has riled him up.

Anyway the next point is that with stereotypes, isn't this the very tale practically ever M&B book feeds us since we r old enough to understand romance? At least that is what it has been to me since my 16th b'day when mom gifted me my 1st M&B. So i wouldn't call it desi show specific issue.

Another case in point - reformed playboys, bad boys r said to make the best husbands..well the chances r that hardly any will reform. But its also true that when such a person reforms for a good woman's love its for life. They will be loyal beyond life and will love and cherish that woman.. At least sigh.. that is what the romantic in me has always said to me..

Now if u ask me if Paro deserves better. I will say HELL YES! I was one who shipped Varun -Paro to the max, cz the picture he painted for her, a life which was a promise of loving companionship was what i thought what she deserved.

But the thing is if it was the case the story would already be over right?

They need flawed beings to carry this story forward...In real life i will never say this is a good thing! no way in hell! but for a fictional tale i am fine with it..

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Exprimere

@Exprimere

Voyager

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Posted: 11 years ago

#38

Originally posted by: Frigate
Great point and well analyzed/written! 👏
I also agree with your point on the show that shall not be named here. That was the question I had repeatedly asked and got a lot of flack during the heydays of that show! I was actually more interested in knowing why KKG fell in love with ASR! Or, how she came to the conclusion that he loved her (yeah, yeah he said it a few times, still nothing in his behavior was any indication of love!). I could only sense physical attraction between the couple.

Anyhoo, like SJ said earlier on this thread, suspension of disbelief is a requirement for keeping your sanity intact. A lot of these story lines probably have to do with TRPs, what the audience demands and sometimes believe it or not, reality. At least some writers/producers claim to... You and I, being urban and educated may sometimes be unaware of ground realities. 😕

I read a very interesting article in the economist about the desi saas-bahu shows a couple of months ago. Some parts of it are hilarious (yes, the economist articles can be funny sometimes😛 )! I read it on the plane a couple of months ago and must say I could barely contain a bemused smile and strange looks from fellow passengers ensued!😆

I found the article online if you are interested...

http://www.economist.com/news/christmas-specials/21591745-curse-mummyji

It's a fantastic article. Everyone should read it. Can you make another thread to ensure that, please?

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daniclayton

@daniclayton

Beginner

Posted: 11 years ago

#39

Read all the inputs. It seems like a wish list and rightly said. But fact remains that such series are made for TV to make money. Indian moms and aunties who watch the show are the ones who actually the decision makers. RR is striving to create a balance to appease all kinds of crowd. So far so good. I for one watch this as I enjoy a good acting without much fakeness and over dramatic episodes.

Just my thoughts...

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samirao

@samirao

Dazzler

+ 2

Posted: 11 years ago

#40

Well said , exactly my thoughts

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