Its NOT Paro's JOB to fix Rudra!

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Smriti

@serialjunkie

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Posted: 11 years ago

#11

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I feel so validated in my belief to never take a soap seriously and never analyse the material because one cannot watch it without suspending disbelief.

Keeping aside my thinking cap, I can only partake of one episode per day for its eye candy value and fiery dialogs. Beyond that, I am unable to justify my reasons for watching any Desi soap.

Suffice it to say that once upon a time, I felt the same emotions you express here and have more than many times shared it in other forum. But I realized a little too late that I am banging my head against a wall and that there are those who like, nay, relish even, the stories that bring a scarred man to a pristine woman and have her work her magic. The great redemptive power of love.

Which woman does not want to believe that she has the power within her to change a man very fundamentally. As much as this sounds romantic its also antediluvian. Given the nature of marriages and expectations from participants in a marriage, who in their sane minds has the time to repair damaged goods, when you barely have enough time to repair your own shoes and faltering career?

Yet scores of young women want their guys to be augmentative not reductive. Progressives want the participants in a marriage to bring out the best in each other. With all these pressures stressing the shaky foundation of an even shakier institution - who has time for redeeming damaged goods?

So, I took a deep breath for my second appearance in IF and decided to let the maker-buggers fend for themselves, while I engage in some good laughter therapy. A few compadres agree while many find my alternate comedic reality of RangRasiya a mockery. To each his own, I guess.

Edit: erm! didn't want to sound hoity-toity in my post above. I am watching because i get to talk to you guys. its as simple as that 😛. i tried other shows but w/o you guys, it was never the same.

Edited by serialjunkie - 11 years ago

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Navin

@napstermonster

Voyager

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Posted: 11 years ago

#12

Originally posted by: Jaz1990
Rightly said! For once I would love to see the tables turned.

@NB ... Rudra's character is based upon othello rite? From that I see him progressing but still having issues such as trust and self esteem. Does anyone have a character analysis on othello I did when I was In high school hardly remember anything now doe

I posted this earlier on another thread that Zara had started regarding Othello/Rudra and Desdemona/Paro, hope it refreshes your high school Eng. Lit. memory!

Regarding the parallels of Othello and Desdemona.

Issue of Paro marrying Rudra--Desdemona, Othello's wife, marries him very very much against the wishes of her family and her society. She falls in love with him, again not because she wants to but because she is fascinated with him, having never seen a man like him in all her life.

As Othello is the Moor, a hated group of people at that time, Desdemona marrying him makes her an enemy for her own family. Her father is shocked and throws her out of his house, for marrying a man who is hated and feared. She is helpless, and dependent on her Othello fully, for everything. He, also, is obsessed with her without ever really understanding even the first thing about her.

Desdemona and Paro have a lot of parallels--if she does marry Rudra, it will be against her village, and her family. She will be rejected, and have no one but Rudra, and will depend on him for her very life and existence. And he wont understand her, since she is an "auraat."

Unlike the independent, fiesty and clever Khushi Kumari Gupta, Sanaya is playing Paro as an abla nari (which is in keeping with Desdemona). D is known as one of the most tragic figures in Shakespeare because her innocence is so pure, it ends up killing her--literally becoming the reason for her death. She to the last moment does not UNDERSTAND his pain or his jealousy because she has no negative emotions like this inside her--she is too simple and too good for them.

And finally, Paro is showing each and every sign of Desdemona--who was totally naive and innocent, who did not see evil that was right in front of her (Iago-Thakur-sa? ),and even after falling in love with her, she was not someone he even trusted after marriage, and she gives up everything for him, even her life.Desdemona's life and her death is Othello's sole decision, her entire life is in his hands. Again, like Rudra right now.

Ultimately, Othello kills Desdemona because of his own past, and his own personal demons. Ultimately, Desdemona dies because Othello always believes that such a beautiful, sweet woman HAD to have something wrong with her or she would never have married him in the first place. Parallels to Rudra, all over the place bai-sa!

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Tvbug2011

@tvbug2011

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Posted: 11 years ago

#13

Originally posted by: napstermonster

I am getting worried for RR. I for one HATE kitchen dramatics, which IPK had mercifully little of. But RR has shown potential of blowing all the stereotypes away. Such huge themes--patriotism, betrayal, country vs self-sacrifice--and the acting is first rate. They need to explore Paro's culpability, the Birpur villager's blind faith angle, the story about the baraatis, who they are, the story about the missing brides of Birpur. They can bring in the Thakur's life, on his plans, on corruption in the Army, how deep it goes into the BSD. On Rudra's guilt, on hell, Rudra and Aman's bonds as brothers in arms.

I didn't know I signed up for masala mami and the submissive sisterhood of the traveling ghagras. If the story becomes a hate-marriage with us breathlessly munching popcorn as we chart exactly how many times Rudra's fingers brushed Paro's kamariya while he was manhandling her TODAY versus the last time--- I'm out.

Completely agree!! Such terrific themes, so much potential, yet where are we? With sarky Kaki and sneering Sumer. At this point, I'm revisiting previous episodes for the wide-open spaces and spectacular shots. Even the HQ is preferable to the haveli. RR needs to be very careful how far they move away from their original promise.

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tvbuf

@tvbuf

Sparkler

+ 4

Posted: 11 years ago

#14

That is the trend nowadays.

Earlier the BW movies used to have spoilt rich girls who would learn life lessons.

Dont know about serials.

Noadays some, not all, of the serials are about male leads with tragic pasts.

I dont have any issues with it.

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Jasmin

@Jaz1990

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+ 4

Posted: 11 years ago

#15

@naps thanks for the info, holy crap is this what will happen in rangrasiya! As far as what I read it does have it's similarities to paro and rudra. I hope not

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humsafar

@humsafar

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Posted: 11 years ago

#16

Originally posted by: serialjunkie
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I feel so validated in my belief to never take a soap seriously and never analyse the material because sane people like you and I will never be able to watch without suspending disbelief.

Keeping aside my thinking cap, I can only partake of one episode per day for its eye candy value and fiery dialogs. Beyond that, I am unable to justify my reasons for watching any Desi soap.

Suffice it to say that once upon a time, I felt the same emotions you express here and have more than many times shared it in other forum. But I realized a little too late that I am banging my head against a wall and that there are those who like, nay, relish even, the stories that bring a scarred man to a pristine woman and have her work her magic. The great redemptive power of love.

Which woman does not want to believe that she has the power within her to change a man very fundamentally. As much as this sounds romantic its also antediluvian. Given the nature of marriages and expectations from participants in a marriage, who in their sane minds has the time to repair damaged goods, when you barely have enough time to repair your own shoes and faltering career?

Emancipated women want their guys to be augmentative not reductive. Progressives want the participants in a marriage to bring out the best in each other. With all these pressures stressing the shaky foundation of an even shakier institution - who has time for redeeming damaged goods?

So, I took a deep breath for my second appearance in IF and decided to let the maker-buggers fend for themselves, while I engage in some good laughter therapy. A few compadres agree while many find my alternate comedic reality of RangRasiya a mockery. To each his own, I guess.

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Edited by humsafar - 11 years ago

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BillyJean.

@BillyJean.

Sparkler

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Posted: 11 years ago

#17

Totally Agreed,

I would not like to deal with a man like Rudra, though in reality we do have lesser variations of Rudra.

But when I watch a show, I look for entertainment value, good gripping story and convincing performances.

I enjoy RR for the above 3 plus it has got my main reason for watching - Sanaya Irani.

Other than that I do not attach my emotions to the shows.

Edited by SanayaIsBest - 11 years ago

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humsafar

@humsafar

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Posted: 11 years ago

#18

Originally posted by: Naach_Basanti
Completely and whole heartedly agree with you.

In real life no one would be with men like Rudra and the character who shall not be named. They all look great on screen, but beyond that they posses nothing that would make a relationship work- respect, love, trust and a willingness to adjust.

But having said that I have seen this happen in real life. Many families get their badly behaved son married to a girl in the hope that marriage will change them, their wife will fix them up. One of my close friends got married to such a guy who had anger issues and would end up beating her up. Their marriage had been arranged by his family who believed that a wife would make him reign hi anger.

To me personally this is a TV show. as long as they show a good character progression and show that the guy does change eventually, the guy is remorseful to his action and the guy in ways more than one redeems himself I'm happy to overlook this stereotype. Which is where the show that shall not be name failed miserably for me.

However the one thing I won't accept is domestic abuse being passed off as passion and intensity. I spoke against it strongly during past shows and will do so if it comes up after their marriage.

Hey i dont agree with only one line of urs that no body will be able to live with rudra n the other character of the drama that i wish could have named :(

I think arnav wasnt that bad as rudra is with his heroine

I know i know the other hero let khushi fell down from the office window

But still :) i find rudra more rough n tuff

Like some times i get afraid just like paro when he is shouting on her

Arnav was more like proud on being rich n his aukat issues n all that but i think there r many man out there in real world who r like arnav grumpy n nosy

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sajni786

@sajni786

Stunner

+ 3

Posted: 11 years ago

#19

TBH...dont get me started on all this "Disaster Management Course" that our now-a-days hyped desi TV show makers dish out for the female lead in their shows...it highly aggreviates the feminist in me...

All I can say is...I take the show at its face value...ie. for its entertainment value...without dwelling much into the analysis portion of it...and come here to get a good laugh and/or read from post makers such as urself...SJ-sa...MKMji...NBji...eveline...Diya and a few others.

That be said...I just read the short summary of yours on Othello...(am not a book reader at all...so wouldnt know much about the story...so thanks to u for that)...the sadist in me would like the ending of the show to be same as Othello...just so it can make a wee bit sense to have a character like Rudra...coz honestly speaking...no man in real life like him can be a marriage material and if Paro being very much like Des were to be partnered with him...then the result will only be that of Des...BUT...for the entertaiment value...I want happy endings yaara...Tragic endings leave a bad taste in my mouth and make me feel like I wasted so many hours of my life just to feel sad at the end!😆

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Navin

@napstermonster

Voyager

+ 7

Posted: 11 years ago

#20

Originally posted by: -Sush-

Agree with you napster...
Damaged heroes make good soaps...that's why you see them so often...and yes it is not fair for the heroine to get the raw deal always...and it is very stereotypical to assume that she will fix everything...Why should she be made to put up with it? She deserves better...

What has kept me engaged with RR so far...that it is neither...Rudra Dev may be damaged goods...but he is capable of caring...and he does care ...without faking it...Not only is he caring...he is brave, and he is a patriot...Qualities that I like...on the other side...he is rough, not respectful, and quite self centered...at least so far...None qualities I like...but I am optimistic on the self centered part...

Any way...what I am saying...is that the stories are always the same...with slight variation...Not expecting a miracle there...but what is important is ...

Do I want to turn on the computer and watch Rudra?
Do I want to watch Paro?
Do find their interactions exciting and interesting?

The answer is an emphatic yes on all three accounts...so far...🤪🥳
If any of those characters or their interactions became boring or unattractive...I will make an exit...but so far...I am able to ignore the rest...the family dramatics, the stereotypical Saas, male characters who are despicable and enjoy at least these two characters, whatever their background may be...😃

Loved your reasoned analysis, Sush! This is the issue for me--as serialjunkie says, there is only so much you can expect on a soap. But with Rudra, they spent the past 30 episodes consistently creating in his "protector" image. His words may be bitter, but his actions are all selfless. Whether its saving an unknown girl from rapists and taking a bullet for it, or dragging a mean drunken father everywhere and make him rotis every night--his actions are those of a true protector.

A protector, however, does not abuse those in his power, to get his way--and for me, a fake marriage, or a hate-marriage--hell, even the threat of it--sign this file, or I'll marry you--its an incredible betrayal of Paro's trust in her Jallad. Thats a trust he has created--she trusts that he has brought her to this haveli, he is shielding her, and he will come back and stop all this marriage nonsense from Kakisa. To then walk in, and use marriage like a weapon, to get his BSD confession and his job back-- Its even a betrayal of Rudra's own character as we have seen it to be so far.

If the marriage happens, it will be something Paro will not easily recover from. In her mind, she is a widow. She has religious grounds for not becoming a bride again, for a while at least. Not to mention, she is as helpless, as alone, as anyone can be--she cant even kill herself, to escape him. To abuse her in this position by forcing a wedding on her--fake or not--it would be a betrayal from the man who has, so far, only protected her. She might not know that he has protected her, and would see a marriage as one more form of torture--but you are the audience--wont you find this a huge change in the character of Rudra as we have seen it shown so far?

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