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Posted: 11 years ago
#41
Very well said- i also hope that Rudra can use Paro as an inspiration rather than a magic wand.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: napstermonster


I posted this earlier on another thread that Zara had started regarding Othello/Rudra and Desdemona/Paro, hope it refreshes your high school Eng. Lit. memory!

Regarding the parallels of Othello and Desdemona.

Issue of Paro marrying Rudra--Desdemona, Othello's wife, marries him very very much against the wishes of her family and her society. She falls in love with him, again not because she wants to but because she is fascinated with him, having never seen a man like him in all her life.

As Othello is the Moor, a hated group of people at that time, Desdemona marrying him makes her an enemy for her own family. Her father is shocked and throws her out of his house, for marrying a man who is hated and feared. She is helpless, and dependent on her Othello fully, for everything. He, also, is obsessed with her without ever really understanding even the first thing about her.

Desdemona and Paro have a lot of parallels--if she does marry Rudra, it will be against her village, and her family. She will be rejected, and have no one but Rudra, and will depend on him for her very life and existence. And he wont understand her, since she is an "auraat."

Unlike the independent, fiesty and clever Khushi Kumari Gupta, Sanaya is playing Paro as an abla nari (which is in keeping with Desdemona). D is known as one of the most tragic figures in Shakespeare because her innocence is so pure, it ends up killing her--literally becoming the reason for her death. She to the last moment does not UNDERSTAND his pain or his jealousy because she has no negative emotions like this inside her--she is too simple and too good for them.

And finally, Paro is showing each and every sign of Desdemona--who was totally naive and innocent, who did not see evil that was right in front of her (Iago-Thakur-sa? ),and even after falling in love with her, she was not someone he even trusted after marriage, and she gives up everything for him, even her life.Desdemona's life and her death is Othello's sole decision, her entire life is in his hands. Again, like Rudra right now.

Ultimately, Othello kills Desdemona because of his own past, and his own personal demons. Ultimately, Desdemona dies because Othello always believes that such a beautiful, sweet woman HAD to have something wrong with her or she would never have married him in the first place. Parallels to Rudra, all over the place bai-sa!


I would never wish this on a real life woman. But as far as a story goes what u wrote above is fascinating and i would kill to watch if they do end up keeping it exactly like this!!

here though one thing that i think seems to differ is the unlike Desdemona Paro isn't always passive, she fights back.. Never attack or defend. But she speaks and tells him when he is wrong. But then again very very like Desdemona Paro is so pristine pure, innocent and all things that is good and light in this world that his darkness cannot change her.. destroy her eventually, maybe.. but change who she is? Never!
Fascinating material to watch being unfolded on screen specially with the fabulous actors we have!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: princessunara

Hi,

I agree very much so..

But well here r my points

If it was all so white it wouldn't be any fun watching. AND unlike in IPK I hope there is a PROPER redemption track.
Also another, the guy might be flawed.. BUT Paro wished for something, to belong to somebody fully and to have someone who was just hers. If their journey together gives her that in the form of Rudra the bumpy road might be worth it IF this becomes their journey and he changes. Another thing I have noticed is that the Jallad cannot bring himself to deliberately hurt her.
He has strong reasons to hate her on a none personal scale this time, its neither her aukat nor her class that is the issue he has with her. Its her suspected terrorist connections. Even despite that what I have noticed is that he cannot bring himself to hurt her, Not even to pin her to a wall hard enough to hurt her much even at a time when she has riled him up.

Anyway the next point is that with stereotypes, isn't this the very tale practically ever M&B book feeds us since we r old enough to understand romance? At least that is what it has been to me since my 16th b'day when mom gifted me my 1st M&B. So i wouldn't call it desi show specific issue.
Another case in point - reformed playboys, bad boys r said to make the best husbands..well the chances r that hardly any will reform. But its also true that when such a person reforms for a good woman's love its for life. They will be loyal beyond life and will love and cherish that woman.. At least sigh.. that is what the romantic in me has always said to me..

Now if u ask me if Paro deserves better. I will say HELL YES! I was one who shipped Varun -Paro to the max, cz the picture he painted for her, a life which was a promise of loving companionship was what i thought what she deserved.
But the thing is if it was the case the story would already be over right?


They need flawed beings to carry this story forward...In real life i will never say this is a good thing! no way in hell! but for a fictional tale i am fine with it..


That's my point, actually. But what are the chances that they will reform? And why should a woman tolerate all such ninsense even during his transformation phase. And what if he beats the woman up, and then says sorry because he loves her and cares for her? In all likelihood, in reality, things can get worse...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#44
I hope this marriage wouldn't happened I want Thakur man to kidnap Paro and tries to kill her I want Rudra to find out about her innocence.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Cannot agree more 👏 Well said Napster.. 👏 In fact you have just echoed my thoughts.. when the marriage between R & P was announced yesterday, I thought to myself.. oh no! not again..!! Give me a break 😕

I am not sure why the TRP audience (if that is what forces the CVs to come up with such a theme) forces such a concept in every other serial then I am sorry we cannot expect anthing novel in any serial. sure the portrayal of the roles, the acting of every actor and the presentation is par excellent... but the theme is an hackneyed one... If a good serial is measured by its ratings then there is no hope for creativity or variety...

I am positive that a role reversal will not go lightly with the audience... 😃

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Posted: 11 years ago
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I completely agree. But this trend is , sadly, inspired from real life. Too many parents think a wife will fix their out-of-control son. And said sons end up abusing the poor girl. I do wish to see Rudra changing himself because he realizes he is hurting not just others, but himself as well.
Let's not talk about that other show. As much as I loved watching it, at the end of the day, the girls (both the sisters) got a very bad deal. One had a husband who wouldn't stand up for her and the younger one had one who couldn't stand her uniqueness.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: napstermonster



For once, I would have liked to see Rudra fighting his instincts and learning to leave his childhood inside that box with the doll. To come to a realization that his father, who has been wrong about so much, is also wrong about this. I don't want him, the "hero", to trap Paro into marriage, when she literally has nowhere else to go. Rudra consciously knows he is damaged, and that his dad did something wrong. Then why cant he, a warrior, fight THIS as well? Why cant the story be about him fixing himself, and Paro being the inspiration for that, as opposed to the fixer?


Totally agree with you! Why an innocent girl be literally sacrificed to tame the monster of a 'hero'? Why can't they show a really happy, realistic marriage?

In n marriage, wife and husband should complement each other, but not expected to supplement. Luckily in real life, good number of marriages maintain a healthy relationship. It's generally not two extremes bound in a marriage and one among those on a 'mission sudharofy' other!

But our TV CVs get nausea at the thought of happy marriages. There was a really wonderful, very realistic show on this 'Rangeela' channel some times back. It was one of a kind, hit with fans, but poor on TRP chart. So 'Rangeela' game of separation was introduced... and everything went down the drain.

Sadly Indian TRP caterers also seems to be very fond of this 'beauty and the beast' kind of shows rather than heartwarming, light hearted realistic show.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Naach_Basanti

Completely and whole heartedly agree with you.

In real life no one would be with men like Rudra and the character who shall not be named. They all look great on screen, but beyond that they posses nothing that would make a relationship work- respect, love, trust and a willingness to adjust.

But having said that I have seen this happen in real life. Many families get their badly behaved son married to a girl in the hope that marriage will change them, their wife will fix them up. One of my close friends got married to such a guy who had anger issues and would end up beating her up. Their marriage had been arranged by his family who believed that a wife would make him reign hi anger.

To me personally this is a TV show. as long as they show a good character progression and show that the guy does change eventually, the guy is remorseful to his action and the guy in ways more than one redeems himself I'm happy to overlook this stereotype. Which is where the show that shall not be name failed miserably for me.

However the one thing I won't accept is domestic abuse being passed off as passion and intensity. I spoke against it strongly during past shows and will do so if it comes up after their marriage.


Very true that this happens in real life...I mentioned in another post as well that parents often feel their sons will become responsible if they are married to a responsible girl...and don't think what it will do the girl!
As it is in the majority of Indian marriages the girl leaves her family behind and has to adjust often in a joint family...in such a scenario having a husband who she has to correct is sone pe suhaga!

But coming to the show, Rudra, damaged though he may be, has actually been decent...very decent with Paro given the circumstances they met under...he could have been a lot worse...it's not Paros job to correct him but the support she can give him can slowly change him and his perception that women are to abandoning kind...!
I am sure the story ahead will have a situation where his belief in her is shaken just as starts to change...and then back to square one!
It all depends on the treatment as you say...they should strike a balance between showing the tension between them and focusing on the changes in Rudra...and yes...no violence of the hand grabbing or manhandling kind...such things shod never be shown even as part of so called passionate scenes as happened in another love hate show!

All said its a show and we would like to see that which we don't often see in real life...within limits!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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This alpha male and docile female family life has been shoved down Indian woman's throat (rather lives) since stone age - in the name of culture and Values. Now the Media is just making money out of this by fictionising the same in the name of art.
Othello created his own misery and Desdemona - though the reason for the same - was never blamed for not fixing him. Incase of Paro - She has an even miserable fate where in she is expected to do so to Rudra - failing which she fails in the eyes of the viewers/society.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: napstermonster


Loved your reasoned analysis, Sush! This is the issue for me--as serialjunkie says, there is only so much you can expect on a soap. But with Rudra, they spent the past 30 episodes consistently creating in his "protector" image. His words may be bitter, but his actions are all selfless. Whether its saving an unknown girl from rapists and taking a bullet for it, or dragging a mean drunken father everywhere and make him rotis every night--his actions are those of a true protector.

A protector, however, does not abuse those in his power, to get his way--and for me, a fake marriage, or a hate-marriage--hell, even the threat of it--sign this file, or I'll marry you--its an incredible betrayal of Paro's trust in her Jallad. Thats a trust he has created--she trusts that he has brought her to this haveli, he is shielding her, and he will come back and stop all this marriage nonsense from Kakisa. To then walk in, and use marriage like a weapon, to get his BSD confession and his job back-- Its even a betrayal of Rudra's own character as we have seen it to be so far.

If the marriage happens, it will be something Paro will not easily recover from. In her mind, she is a widow. She has religious grounds for not becoming a bride again, for a while at least. Not to mention, she is as helpless, as alone, as anyone can be--she cant even kill herself, to escape him. To abuse her in this position by forcing a wedding on her--fake or not--it would be a betrayal from the man who has, so far, only protected her. She might not know that he has protected her, and would see a marriage as one more form of torture--but you are the audience--wont you find this a huge change in the character of Rudra as we have seen it shown so far?


Hi Napster...didn't see this post until now...

OK...here is my view...I think you are judging the marriage announcement a lot more harshly than I am...I do not think for one minute that Rudra is doing this to abuse her...or will ever abuse her...That much I believe ..based on what they have shown so far...

He doesn't view her previous marriage as legit...and he sees Paro as someone who wants to belong ...have a family...have a home..to not live at a place temporarily ..all those things that a marriage provides...so...this is not an action taken to abuse her but subconsciously to do what he thinks she is looking for in life any ways...

What is off is timing...that has been precipitated by the mausam sa and his suspension...He knew Paro was there, when the incident happened...he does not know she had fainted ...so he desperately hopes Paro will come through and give her testimony to prove his innocence ...and he is just trying to precipitate that...

I stopped watching IPK...after the real marriage happened ...so didn't see Mrs. India track...I know marriage track didn't work well ...hated the abuse Arnie boy dished out after the forced marriage...I hope they don't repeat that shows mistakes and give us something better...but I don't want to come to a convulsion before having actually seen where they are going with this...

Edited by -Sush- - 11 years ago

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