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Posted: 16 years ago

In today's precap, they showed that next week (not necessarily Monday), they'll show the battle between Rama and Hanuman. Note that this is not there in Valmiki, but at least, it's not a Sagar invention. Maybe Khalrika can tell us where it's from.

At any rate, since the question came up as to the story behind this, I'm re-posting what Vibs posted in the last thread, so that people can be familiar w/ this story.

Originally posted by: Vibhishna

The story I read of the encounter between Hanuman and Ram:

A king of a small country by name Sakuntan was returning on his way from hunting. He saw a place where the sages Vasishta, Viswamitra, Atri and others performing a yagna. Thinking that it would not be appropriate to enter the sacred place when he returned from hunting covered with sweat and blood, ge stood outside the entrance, raised his arms above his head and said, "My salutaions to the great sages like Vashishta." Devarishi Narad instigated Rishi Vishvamitra that King Sakuntan deliberately ignored him (Viswamitra) and the sage extracted a promise from Ram that Sakuntan's head will be at Sage Viswamitra's feet by sunset that day.

Sage Narad further went to Sakuntan and told him about Lord Ram's promise and adviced him to take shelter from Anjana Devi. Anjana Devi in turn summoned Hanuman and left Sakuntan in his care. Hanuman built a fort around Sakuntan with his tail and sat on top of it meditating on Lord Ram's name.

Ram, finding the fort sent forth his arrows but those arrows returned to his feet. While he stared perplexed at this phenomenon, Sage Narad explained that Hanuman protects Sakuntan with the name 'Ram'.He also says that, "Against your name, even you cannot do anything." Rishi Viswamitra says that all this was the result of his ego and he won't pursue it anymore. When Lord Ram is worried about his promise going in vain, Devarishi suggests that Sakuntan bows to Sage Vishwamitra so that his head touches the Rishi's feet. Sakuntan does so and all ends well.

In 'Jai Hanuman', the only deviation was when Ram took his own arrow in the end, Hanuman cries out saying that a Raam baan should never go waste and then someone interferes and suggests that Sakuntan should bow down to Sage Viswamitra's feet.

In Bajrangbali, which I saw on dailymotion.com, the only difference from the above account was that Hanuman actually made a fort not with his tail, but a real one, with stones that had Rama's name written on them. That's what protected Sakuntan (Note to self: gotta remember that name!) from Rama's arrows.

Edited by Chandraketu - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
You're welcome. Btw, I hope they show Shatrughan vs Lavanasura before they take a Hanumanesque leap to his battle w/ Rama. Being the Sagars, there's no telling what they'll do.
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

<FONT color="#003333"><FONT size="2">In today's precap, they showed that next week (not necessarily Monday), they'll show the battle between Rama and Hanuman. Note that this is not there in Valmiki, but at least, it's not a Sagar invention. Maybe Khalrika can tell us where it's from.</FONT></FONT>

<FONT color="#003333"><FONT size="2">At any rate, since the question came up as to the story behind this, I'm re-posting what Vibs posted in the last thread, so that people can be familiar w/ this story.</FONT></FONT>

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<FONT size="2"><FONT color="#003333">In Bajrangbali, which I saw on dailymotion.com, the only difference from the above account was that Hanuman actually made a fort not with his tail, but a real one, with stones that had Rama's name written on them. That's what protected Sakuntan (Note to self: gotta remember that name!) from Rama's arrows.</FONT></FONT>




Thanks Vibs and Chandra. Also, Chandra thanks for the assignment 4 the weekend, 😆 😆 😆
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

You're welcome. Btw, I hope they show Shatrughan vs Lavanasura before they take a Hanumanesque leap to his battle w/ Rama. Being the Sagars, there's no telling what they'll do.

ram hanuman battle on 25th may
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

Khalrika

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Yup! Just for today.
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: sabydeep

ram hanuman battle on 25th may

Oh great! So they would be done with Lavanasur by next week I guess. And then its Ram vs Hanuman..... How is it that the Sagars do everything but follow the main storyline 🤔❓ Do they ever plan on showing K-L being taught the Ramayana?
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

In today's precap, they showed that next week (not necessarily Monday), they'll show the battle between Rama and Hanuman. Note that this is not there in Valmiki, but at least, it's not a Sagar invention. Maybe Khalrika can tell us where it's from.

At any rate, since the question came up as to the story behind this, I'm re-posting what Vibs posted in the last thread, so that people can be familiar w/ this story.

In Bajrangbali, which I saw on dailymotion.com, the only difference from the above account was that Hanuman actually made a fort not with his tail, but a real one, with stones that had Rama's name written on them. That's what protected Sakuntan (Note to self: gotta remember that name!) from Rama's arrows.

In the version that i've read, Sage Narada asks King Sakuntan, who was about to visit Rama, to ignore sage Vishwamitra in the court and bow only to Rama. This makes vishwamitra really angry.
Edited by winnerasha - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: winnerasha

In the version that i've read, Sage Narada asks King Sakuntan, who was about to visit Rama, to ignore sage Vishwamitra in the court and bow only to Rama. This makes vishwamitra really angry.


thanks for the story..
i am eagerly wiating to see this part...
i have seen this in one of the movie...
chandra bhaiya the part which u said is overe there in that movie but i do not remeber the name of that movie..
i am so happy they are showing it...
and i hope they will picturize it very beautifully

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Posted: 16 years ago

oh ok so THAT was the story

i knew i read it before but i cudnt place it

seems sagars r shwoing stories from here there and incorporating

but lavansur story has to make sense better
and date 25th why coz of new shows and they want trps up thats why they put that date
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: chen2chic

Oh great! So they would be done with Lavanasur by next week I guess. And then its Ram vs Hanuman..... How is it that the Sagars do everything but follow the main storyline 🤔❓Do they ever plan on showing K-L being taught the Ramayana?

Well, Chen2, K-L being taught the Ramayan is only implicit in Valmiki - none of the sargs (except 1-3) say anything about them being taught it.

From a poetic justice standpoint, I'm glad they're doing it. I don't know whom to root against - Rama, for allowing Sita to exile herself, or Hanuman, for all the torturous tests he put K-L thru. Remember, we did state that Rama should punish Hanuman, and now, here comes that chance. 👏👏👏 But both of them taking gigantic forms - we know that Hanuman was capable of this, but Rama?😲😲😲

One suggestion for the story here - Rama and Hanuman both make each other swoon, and then K-L appear in their divine form, and bless and revive them😈😈😈

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