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ananyacool

@ananyacool

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Posted: 16 years ago

#71

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

🥳

Ananya!!!👍🏼

Welcome to the Goldie club!!!!!👏🥳

Thank you bhai🤗, now that you all are wishing me I'm finally believing I've crossed the 1000 mark😉

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ananyacool

@ananyacool

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Posted: 16 years ago

#72

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

Conveniently left out of this description are the circumstances of why Rama had to go after Shambuka in the first place. 7:73 has the account:

One day an old Braahman came there crying with the dead body of his son in his arms and said - "Kaal has taken my son untimely - only at the age of five years. I never tell lies, nor I trouble anybody, then why my son has died in his childhood? Hey Raajan, Is this the happiness in your kingdom? My son has died because of Raam's sin, there is no doubt about it. Now either make him alive, or I will leave my body here at your gate with my wife. And then you will be responsible for Brahm Hatyaa (killing of a Braahman). When any Raajaa does some kind of sin, then only the public dies untimely. It is only because of Raaja's sin that this boy has died. Because Raam became Raajaa of Ikshwaaku Vansh, that is why this kingdom is without its master." That Braahaman was defaming and blaming Raam for his son's death and crying continuously.

It's legitimate to ask whether in order to resurrect a dead (Brahman) baby, it was worth killing a living adult. But to ignore that part of the story altogether is plain sophistry.

Yeah, this part appears in 7:73-7:76. In it, the austerities Shambuka was practicing was by standing on his head, which was a pretty major tapas with major benefits if completed, and like Ananya goes on to point out below, he wanted to rule Devalok. Also left out in the cited account is the fact that once Shambuka was killed, the baby in question was restored to life. Again, it's legitimate to debate whether such a trade-off was ethical, but to not factor it in reveals a pre-existing agenda.

Originally posted by: ananyacool

And after Rama executes Shambuka, Indra, when appearing before him, asks him what boon he wanted from him. Rama asks for the dead boy to be restored to life, and Indra tells him that that already happened the moment he killed Shambuka.

P.S. I second the others who've requested that it stay: it is a good reference for those who need to refute the charges against Rama of being a casteist

Thank you all for the support. I posted it very reluctantly. Once again thanks for the valuable input from Mandodari, Rajnish n Chandra bhaiya.

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sita

@sitakshii

Stunner

+ 4

Posted: 16 years ago

#73

wow !!! so many stories😛👏

well i really don't know much abt the stories of uttar kand ,

besides what i saw in the movies & mytho shows,tv documentary !!!!

one thing i wanna say that when ever i see any post of the member s_rocha i get pissed off 😡

s_rocha is here to write all his fake stuff & always in a mood to critisize the HINDU GODS !!!!😡

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Janaki

@RamKiSeeta

Achiever

+ 6

Posted: 16 years ago

#74

Congrats Ananya for becoming Goldie!!!!!!👏

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Khalrika

@Khalrika

Voyager

Posted: 16 years ago

#75

Hey all, I loved (and enjoyed) writing the stories. So, no need to thank me. 😃

I want to thank Ananya, Rajnish, Vibs, Chandra, Deepa, and all the others who also contributed to the posts. I enjoyed reading them. 👏

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Khalrika

@Khalrika

Voyager

Posted: 16 years ago

#76

🥳Ananya for reaching Goldie.

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Khalrika

@Khalrika

Voyager

Posted: 16 years ago

#77

Originally posted by: Rajnish_Kumar

This comes in Padm Puran. In padm puran the story of horse and what happens after that is written. Its very interesting. It explains few more thing which has not been shown in any serial. I will post the whole story of ashwamedha yagna and the story of luv-kush fighting with rams army from padm puran latter in either this thred or seperate thred😊

Thanks Rajnish.

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Khalrika

@Khalrika

Voyager

Posted: 16 years ago

#78

Originally posted by: Vibhishna
Excellent explanations Ananya and Mandodari ji. Please don't edit the stories. What Ram did is best understood only if the original and unedited stories are told. Thanks for the wonderful explanations.

Mandodari ji, can you tell us if the book you have read is available online? If not can you give us the title, author and publishers of the book?

Vibs, the book I have is Part 1 and 2 of Srimad Valmiki Ramayana (with Sanskrit text and English translation) from Gita press. I got the book from amazon.com in the US. The book cover had the Indian address information and I am just copying that here. I hope the address is current. Here it is:

www.gitapress.org
Email: gitspres@ndf.vsnl.net.in
address: Gita Press, Gorakhpur-273005
Phone: 334721
Fax: 336997

For the US members if u r interested, I bought the books from Amazon.com. It was pricey (a little over $100) because it was hardcover but worth it. U can also buy it from Natraj Books located in Virginia.

Natraj Books (www.natrajbooks.com)
7073-75 Brookfield Plaza
Springfield, VA 22150
Phone: (703)455-4996

Here is the link to natraj books
http://www.natarajbooks.com/main.aspx?maincatid=1

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ananyacool

@ananyacool

Voyager

Posted: 16 years ago

#79

Originally posted by: Mandodari
🥳Ananya for reaching Goldie.

Thank you di😊

Thanks for the details about Srimad Valmiki Ramayana

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Vibhishna

@Vibhishna

Dazzler

+ 3

Posted: 16 years ago

#80

Originally posted by: Mandodari

Vibs, the book I have is Part 1 and 2 of Srimad Valmiki Ramayana (with Sanskrit text and English translation) from Gita press. I got the book from amazon.com in the US. The book cover had the Indian address information and I am just copying that here. I hope the address is current. Here it is:

www.gitapress.org
Email: gitspres@ndf.vsnl.net.in
address: Gita Press, Gorakhpur-273005
Phone: 334721
Fax: 336997

For the US members if u r interested, I bought the books from Amazon.com. It was pricey (a little over $100) because it was hardcover but worth it. U can also buy it from Natraj Books located in Virginia.

Natraj Books (www.natrajbooks.com)
7073-75 Brookfield Plaza
Springfield, VA 22150
Phone: (703)455-4996

Here is the link to natraj books
http://www.natarajbooks.com/main.aspx?maincatid=1

Thank you so much. I'll check it out. 😊

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