Doubts and Discussions from the Ramayan - Page 4

Originally posted by: desichica

Hey dear,

I think it wud have been better if Ramji did do the pareeksha at Ayodhya, it wud make more sense since the washerman of Ayodhya was the one who put a mar on Sita maya's character.

Second to answer ur question...the REAL reason the Agni Pareeksha was done was to bring back the REAL Sita mata from under the protection of Agni Dev!!!! To further explain this confusion, b4 Sita haraan, Ramji told Sita maya that it was bout time for Ravan to send Mareech to come disguised as a golden deer and that Sita maya wud be kidnapped from that maya created by Ravan himself!!!! So Sita maya calls upon Agni Dev, & she is under the care and protection of Agni Dev, while it is Chaaya Sita (Sita's shadow) that is held captive by Ravan!!!!!

Now for it to make further sense, When Ravan had raped Nal-Kuber's wife, the son of Kuber (who is also the half-brother of Ravan), Nal-Kuber cursed Ravan that whenever he wud touch a woman against her will or force her in any matter, Ravan's head wud turn into ashes right then and there!!!!!

So you see if it was actually Sita maya, then Ravan wud have burst into ashes right then and there, but he touched a Shadow of Sita maya, so for this purpose Ramji tells Chaya Sita to call upon Agni dev to return his beloved Sita from Agni Dev back to HIM (Ramji)!!!!

Hope this helped you out dear!!!

Originally posted by: bharat999

There were 31 arrows that were supposed to hit Ravan's 20 arms, 10 heads and 1 for navel.
It did and when it did so, the 9 extra heads were destroyed and so did his 18 arms. But then what about his 10th head and the last pair of arms. They were also hit but were not destroyed! why?
hope i havnt made my question very confusing. (although it sounds a bit!)

Originally posted by: Vibhishna

Good question!!! Good thinking!

In the Rama Charita Manasa, all the arrows hit Ravan at the same time and Ravan's 10 heads, 20 arms and the amrit stored in his navel was destroyed simultaneously.

But here, I think they spare a head and a couple of arms (don't ask why - probably wanted Ravan to look whole) so that Lakshman can get some knowledge from Ravan. 😆

Just kidding - no offence meant.

Originally posted by: Vibhishna

This topic has been debated for ages and ages.

First of all, Sri Ram did not ask Sita to do the Agni Pravesha. He told Sita that he had fought Ravan to regain his honour and to punish Ravan for his misdeed and also asked her how can he accpet a woman who has left her husband's house and lived in another man's palace for such a long time. Hearing these words Sita asked Lakshman to build a pyre and entered it praying to the God of Fire that she should be unharmed if she was pure in thoughts and deeds.

Bringing Sita back without a word and then testing her in Ayodhya would look like Ram had accepted her and then tested her after his people doubted her chastity.

According to the Maya Sita version, I agree with Suniti.

And the curse of Nal Kuber - He cursed Ravan the if he ever forces himself on another woman without her consent his head will burst into pieces. Hence, Ravan held his distance from Sita and was constantly trying to convince her to marry him.

The Ayodhya people knew about Sita's Agni Pravesha and still doubted her. The rumours and thinking of the rural and illeterate people of that time soon forgot that she had given proof of her chastity and only spoke of her living in another man's home. In Lanka, people saw very well how pure and devoted Sita was to have brought death and destruction to the mighty Ravan. In spite of all the torments, she remained true to her husband. And of course, they must have heard (if not seen) the Agni Pariksha.

Originally posted by: Vibhishna

Good question!!! Good thinking!

In the Rama Charita Manasa, all the arrows hit Ravan at the same time and Ravan's 10 heads, 20 arms and the amrit stored in his navel was destroyed simultaneously.

But here, I think they spare a head and a couple of arms (don't ask why - probably wanted Ravan to look whole) so that Lakshman can get some knowledge from Ravan. 😆

Just kidding - no offence meant.

Originally posted by: Mandodari

This is strictly my opinion and I am no expert. It seems to me that Ramji shifted the focus of blame, gossip, and wrong judgments by people from Sita to himself to spare Sita of any more humiliation. I think that is the greatness of Ramji. It may seem harsh if you look only at the agni pariksha but if you see the big picture I see the greatness of Ramji. What do you guys think? Any one else feel the same way or am I way off base?