RAMAYAN DAILY DISCUSSION THREAD - Page 52

Originally posted by: ananyacool

Yup they're same😊

The actor is Amit Pachori who made his first TV appearence in Om namah Shivay.

He also acted in some movies which didn't make it the Box office

Originally posted by: bharat999

Thanks Ananaya!

In Om Namah Shivay did the play the role of Lord Vishnu!

He looks soooo cute as Lord Shiva!
His eye expressions are so cute and so is his smile!!

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

Sita

Good summary. But I thought the depiction of Hanuman was rather slapstick style - I didn't like him being shown as disrespecting Maharani Sita, that too on her greatest day. Even if the beads didn't have Shri Rama's name on it, anything given to him by Sita, he would have treasured. At any rate, here is how Valmiki describes the part in question:

Rama presented to Seetha, an excellent string of pearls, furnished with superior gems, shining like a beam of moon-light; two clean and beautiful raiment and lovely ornaments. Looking towards Hanuma the monkey, Seetha, daughter of Janaka, having taken off the pearl-string from her neck, repeatedly caught the glimpse of all the monkeys

Looking at her, Rama who was acquainted with the gesture of another spoke to Seetha as follows: "Dear Seetha! Give the pearl-necklace to a person, with whom you are pleased and in whom the following viz. sharpness, firmness, renown, dexterity, competence, modesty, prudence, virility, prowess and intelligence are ever present." The black-eyed Seetha gave that pearl necklace to Hanuma. Hanuma, the foremost among the monkeys, by wearing that necklace, which was as white as a heap of moonlight-beams, shone brilliantly as a mountain silvered by a white cloud.

All the elder ones among the monkeys and others, who were foremost among the moneys, were honoured suitably with raiment and ornaments. Thereafter, Rama the tormentator of enemies, having thought over, presented articles according to their inclinations, to Mainada, Dvivida and Nila. Rama, who was unwearied in action, then suitably honoured Vibhishana, Sugreeva, Hanuma, Jamabavan and all other eminent monkeys with desired objects and abundant gifts. All of them went back, delighted in mind even as they had come.

Thereafter, all those excellent great souled monkeys, offering their salutation to Rama and getting permission from him, returned to Kishkindha. Having seen Rama's coronation-ceremony, Sugreeva the chief of monkeys, after getting honoured by Rama, entered the city of Kishkindha.

So why are the Sagars depicting Hanuman as disrespecting Sita, when he did nothing of the sort?😡

Originally posted by: Vibhishna

There were other women (Dasharath's other wives) who welcomed the newly weds to Ayodhya. It is not mentioned clearly but I am guessing that was the idea. There were other women who can do the welcoming ceremony in a mother's place (the other wives of Dashrath). Hence, the threee queens could be spared from remaining in Ayodhya. (This is my guess again.)

When the 3 brothers chose to be close to Ram all the time what could their wives do? They would have wanted to spend time with their husbands but they would have understood them well enough not to stop them from showing their love and devotion for their elder brother. (My guess again)

Originally posted by: Mandodari

Here are some websites that talk about Hanuman biting the pearls to see if Ramji is inside. I have heard this story as a kid too and I also heard it at a Hari Katha once.

https://www.pure-yoga.com/en/hongkong/articles/index.php?article_id=139&folder_id=9

https://www.dharmamittrayogacolorado.com/Inspirations.html

This story seems to be prevalent. Either it features in a Ramayan we have not read yet or it is folk/oral tradition.

Originally posted by: Mandodari

Hanuman looking at each and every pearl and then throwing it away is part of the folk tradition Ramayan. Someone told me it is part of the Ananda Ramayan. I am not sure because I haven't read the Ananda Ramayan. I have seen it in another Ramayan movie also.
This was an old one. It is not there in Valmiki Ramayan but It is part of the folk tradition Ramayan.

This is strictly IMHO but there is a very important lesson in this story. Once you have the Lord enshrined in your heart you don't need any external props for bhakti. Also, I do not think that Sita was upset because she knew what Hanuman wanted to accomplish with his own little leela. This is just my opinion. No offense to you or anyone.

Originally posted by: godisone

My guess is that the three brothers divided their time between serving Ramji and attending to their wives. But the wives were not permitted to be at the Rajyabhishek, because it would be deemd inappropriate for the public to see the royal ladies (other than Sita since she was being crowned Maharani) and the Queen Mothers because their son was being crowned. I remember a passage in Valmiki Ramayan where Lakshman (after the rajyabhishek), went to Urmila's chamber since he had not seen her since he returned to Ayodhya. Urmila, not recognizing her husband from all those years of separation, mistook Lakshman for some stranger and chastized him by telling him that her husband would punish the man for his behavior. After Lakshman convinced Urmila that he was Lakshman, Urmila and Lakshman had a happy reunion. By this, it shows us that Urmila (and probably Mandavi and Srutakirti as well) had not been present when Ram, Lakshman, and Sita returned to Ayodhya.

Women, especially royal ladies, were very sheltered and protected from public view in the Treta Yug, unlike this serial, and even the old one, where Sita's sisters were/are present in every event.

And I agree with Chandra's explanation regarding the Rajmatas welcoming SUMS after the marriage. If the groom had a living mother, she would welcome her daughter in law after the wedding, but at the event of a mother's death, the step mother would welcome the daughter in law. So it would not make sense if Dasharath's other wives welcomed SUMS in place of the Rajmatas.

Originally posted by: Vibhishna

I was just saying that in the Kambaramayan, Kaushalya, Sumitra and Kaikeyi too went to the wedding and tried to explain my opinion about it.

No offence meant and I have nothing against the customs of other cultures.

Besides, is the happy reunion between Lakshman and Urmila mentioned in the Valmiki Ramayan? I never read that part. 😭

Originally posted by: godisone

Hey, I hope you were not offended by my statement.😲 It wasn't aimed at anyone, I was just expressing my opinion.