RAMAYAN DAILY DISCUSSION THREAD - Page 51

Vibs

I wasn't objecting to Hanuman tearing his heart. I was objecting to Hanuman being depicted in a slapstick manner as disrespecting Sita by tearing up the beads she gave him so publicly. If anybody gave you a bead necklace, or any jewellery, would you react that way? Not only was this blatantly disrespectful, according to the excerpt I fished out from valmikiramayan.net, it didn't happen. That's what got me so mad!

In Bajrangbali, not Vibhishan, but another of the local rulers challenged Hanuman independently by asking whether Rama was in his heart, and that was when he showed it.

Re: the welcoming, it was customary for the mother of the groom to welcome the bride into the new home, not the step mothers. In the previous serial, they showed it exactly that way - Kaushalya welcoming (rotating the thali with the diya & offerings in front of) Sita, Sumitra welcoming Urmila & Srutakirti, and Kaikeyi welcoming Mandavi. Nobody else could have done it.

But for rajyabhisheks, they were allowed to travel.

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

Vibs

I wasn't objecting to Hanuman tearing his heart. I was objecting to Hanuman being depicted in a slapstick manner as disrespecting Sita by tearing up the beads she gave him so publicly. If anybody gave you a bead necklace, or any jewellery, would you react that way? Not only was this blatantly disrespectful, according to the excerpt I fished out from valmikiramayan.net, it didn't happen. That's what got me so mad!

In Bajrangbali, not Vibhishan, but another of the local rulers challenged Hanuman independently by asking whether Rama was in his heart, and that was when he showed it.

Re: the welcoming, it was customary for the mother of the groom to welcome the bride into the new home, not the step mothers. In the previous serial, they showed it exactly that way - Kaushalya welcoming (rotating the thali with the diya & offerings in front of) Sita, Sumitra welcoming Urmila & Srutakirti, and Kaikeyi welcoming Mandavi. Nobody else could have done it.

But for rajyabhisheks, they were allowed to travel.

Originally posted by: Mandodari

Thanks Sita for the great update. What a wonderful episode today. Sagars have outdone themselves. 👏👏👏 For Gurmi bhaiyya this is a once in a lifetime role. At the same time I do not wish to discount the acting skills of all the other actors. The reason this Ramayan is so good because it is a team effort. So, kudos to all of them. 👏👏👏

Chandra, this story of Hanuman tearing his heart to show Ram/Sita there is a very popular one. A friend of mine told me she heard that it is from Ananda Ramayan. Others say that this story is found in the folk tradition Ramayan.

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

Vibs

I wasn't objecting to Hanuman tearing his heart. I was objecting to Hanuman being depicted in a slapstick manner as disrespecting Sita by tearing up the beads she gave him so publicly. If anybody gave you a bead necklace, or any jewellery, would you react that way? Not only was this blatantly disrespectful, according to the excerpt I fished out from valmikiramayan.net, it didn't happen. That's what got me so mad!

In Bajrangbali, not Vibhishan, but another of the local rulers challenged Hanuman independently by asking whether Rama was in his heart, and that was when he showed it.

Re: the welcoming, it was customary for the mother of the groom to welcome the bride into the new home, not the step mothers. In the previous serial, they showed it exactly that way - Kaushalya welcoming (rotating the thali with the diya & offerings in front of) Sita, Sumitra welcoming Urmila & Srutakirti, and Kaikeyi welcoming Mandavi. Nobody else could have done it.

But for rajyabhisheks, they were allowed to travel.

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

Sita

Good summary. But I thought the depiction of Hanuman was rather slapstick style - I didn't like him being shown as disrespecting Maharani Sita, that too on her greatest day. Even if the beads didn't have Shri Rama's name on it, anything given to him by Sita, he would have treasured. At any rate, here is how Valmiki describes the part in question:

Rama presented to Seetha, an excellent string of pearls, furnished with superior gems, shining like a beam of moon-light; two clean and beautiful raiment and lovely ornaments. Looking towards Hanuma the monkey, Seetha, daughter of Janaka, having taken off the pearl-string from her neck, repeatedly caught the glimpse of all the monkeys

Looking at her, Rama who was acquainted with the gesture of another spoke to Seetha as follows: "Dear Seetha! Give the pearl-necklace to a person, with whom you are pleased and in whom the following viz. sharpness, firmness, renown, dexterity, competence, modesty, prudence, virility, prowess and intelligence are ever present." The black-eyed Seetha gave that pearl necklace to Hanuma. Hanuma, the foremost among the monkeys, by wearing that necklace, which was as white as a heap of moonlight-beams, shone brilliantly as a mountain silvered by a white cloud.

All the elder ones among the monkeys and others, who were foremost among the moneys, were honoured suitably with raiment and ornaments. Thereafter, Rama the tormentator of enemies, having thought over, presented articles according to their inclinations, to Mainada, Dvivida and Nila. Rama, who was unwearied in action, then suitably honoured Vibhishana, Sugreeva, Hanuma, Jamabavan and all other eminent monkeys with desired objects and abundant gifts. All of them went back, delighted in mind even as they had come.

Thereafter, all those excellent great souled monkeys, offering their salutation to Rama and getting permission from him, returned to Kishkindha. Having seen Rama's coronation-ceremony, Sugreeva the chief of monkeys, after getting honoured by Rama, entered the city of Kishkindha.

So why are the Sagars depicting Hanuman as disrespecting Sita, when he did nothing of the sort?😡

in todays episode i also loved the way in which lakshman,bharat & shatrughana refused to accept the position of yuvraaj !!!! i loved the reason of lakshman the most the he cud not accept the yuvraaj position as he was short tempered & at time cud not think with a calm mind !!!!!

all the 4 eternal brothers were great in todays episode !!!! such emotional scene of the 4 brothers !!!👏

Originally posted by: Mandodari

Hanuman looking at each and every pearl and then throwing it away is part of the folk tradition Ramayan. Someone told me it is part of the Ananda Ramayan. I am not sure because I haven't read the Ananda Ramayan. I have seen it in another Ramayan movie also.
This was an old one. It is not there in Valmiki Ramayan but It is part of the folk tradition Ramayan.

This is strictly IMHO but there is a very important lesson in this story. Once you have the Lord enshrined in your heart you don't need any external props for bhakti. Also, I do not think that Sita was upset because she knew what Hanuman wanted to accomplish with his own little leela. This is just my opinion. No offense to you or anyone.

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

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P.S. Ananya, please don't use BO as abbreviations for Box Office. The stench is unbearable😆

Originally posted by: chatterbox

when u call me chatter ji

it becomes a bengali name for me then