RAMAYAN DAILY DISCUSSION THREAD - Page 16

Originally posted by: bharat999

there is a line whch is very famous and was said to Vibishan by Ravan: Ghar ka bhedi Lanka dhaye. it was said to him by Ravan during the battle and esp when Vibihsan tells Ramji the secret of Ravan's death. But it wasnt shown here.

Originally posted by: bharat999

a shout from whom??
everyone knew that Ravan was wrong and Vibishan was right.
but yes, Mandodari did so some harsh words to Vibishan, didnt she? even though she was fully aware of the fact that Ravan was wrong in what he did but as a wife she had to support him.

Originally posted by: Vibhishna

From Ravan. I thought that Ravan would shout at him when he revealed his secrets to the enemy. But Ravan was just looking at Vibhishan full of anger. As I said, no complaints. I liked it this way. But Mandodari speaking that way shocked me too. But I can understand that it was spoken in pain and agony. They actors played their parts well.

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

Actually, Mandodari's comments to Vibhishan made complete sense given this storyline. (In Valmiki, it's Matali who asks Rama to use the Brahmastra against Ravan, Vibhishan is not even involved. In Tulsidas, Vibhishan tells Rama to aim a weapon at his navel. But no mention of 31 arrows, which makes Bharat999's question all the more worth pondering. Also, in Valmiki, no such exchange between Mandodari & Vibhishan happens).

Let's look at this from Mandodari's POV, as per the story in this serial. When Ravan expels Vibhishan and in fact threatens to kill him when he re-appears before him in private, it's Mandodari who saves him from her own husband. (Again, from her POV,) how does he repay her? First he causes the death of her son, who would have emerged unconquerable had his yagna been allowed to complete. Then he causes her to get widowed. As it is, she spent the last several weeks anxious about the potential outcome of the war, and grieving as her sons and devar (Kumbhakarna) died, and had to comfort all the women in the family. And in the case of Indrajit and Ravan, that was caused by her very own devar. Put yourself in her place, and then ask - is this somebody who has the right to address you as 'bhabi'. I think she was completely justified in not considering him part of her family any longer.

Note that all the observations above are completely independent of whether Vibhishan did the right thing or not. From Mandodari's POV, it completely deprived him of any right to claim to belong to her family. Even though she knew what Ravan did was wrong, she couldn't root for her husband to die: if she wanted to do that, she would have had to first either end her marriage or her life.

I'm not sure that if thinking or even assuming wut Vibhishna did is wrong or not...He helped the Lord to achieve his purpose in coming to earth: Destroying Ravan ultimately!!!!! Also saying that not accepting Vibhishan as part of Mandodari's family is not right...b/c after all, even till this day it is always considered a woman going into her husbands family....And Vibhishan was always part of the Rakshaas-Kul, granted he was the exception as a true Brahmin and devotee of Lord Ram as well!!!!!