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Posted: 16 years ago
#91

Originally posted by: Vibhishna


Yeah, This story is popular down south because that is where I heard the Hari Katha. Also, I remember seeing this scene is an old south Ramayan movie. It was in telugu or Kanada or something like that. I love the Ramayan and I am big Ram Bakth. I will watch the Ramayan in any language. One does not need to know the language to watch and understand the Ramayan. I think that is the greatness of this wonderful epic. 😃

You are absolutely right Mandodari ji. I have experienced this too. In fact, I'm expereincing this even now. I think it is the Magic or Greatness or Divinity (I don't know what exactly) of the Ramayan. 😊😊😊


So true! The more you watch Ramayan, the more you get attached to it!
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Posted: 16 years ago
#92

Originally posted by: Mandodari

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I was very disappointed because they didn't show Mandavi. What happened to her?


Maybe, but one thing I did like here was mother-in-law+own daughter in-law, as they showed with Sumitra+Urmila+Srutakirti. One thing that irked me the other day was them showing Urmila misbehaving with Sumitra, but being more respectful towards Kaushalya. Sure, she served them both, but to show her as preferring Kaushalya to Sumitra is overdoing it.

Another thing - Kaikeyi, prior to Dasharath's death, had a history of misbehaving towards Kaushalya & Sumitra, and during those 14 years, did not reconcile with them, until Rama's return. I don't want to violate forum rules by invoking Ramanand Sagar's version, but there, they showed correctly her living isolated, and not in the company of Kaushalya & Sumitra. I don't like the Ayodhya part of the inventions Sagar is coming up with.

Originally posted by: Mandodari

Also, will they show Bharat getting ready to jump into the fire before Ram comes? I hope so. Dosen't Ram send Hanuman ahead to stop Bharat and tell him that he (Ram) is on his way? I am waiting for

He actually does that?

Originally posted by: Mandodari

Bharat/Shatrugan/Ram/Lakshman milap. Also, Seetha/Urmila/Strutkirti/Mandavi/matas/ and everyone else in Ayodhya milap. I hope they also show Janakpurians with Janak, his wife, his brother/wife, Mallavika, those 2 cute kids (they must be grown up after 14 years) from Mithila coming to the Rajyabishek. I am sure all the Rishi/munis will also show up for the Rajyabishek. The whole gang together. I hope they make it very festive and fun to watch. Get the Yudh done already! I want to go back to Ayodhya now.

From what I recall, Janak (nor his brother) never had any sons, and unlike Dasharath, neither did he want any. Given that he had no male heirs, I'm surprised that he never asked Rama to let him have one of Sita's or Urmila's sons to install as yuvraj of Mithila.

I want the final battle between Rama & Ravan to last over 2 episodes, and I wouldn't mind if the Agni-pariksha was rushed, or even skipped. Just get to Brahma & Dasharath seeing Rama, and then, on their return flight, like Akhl wanted, I hope they show Rama describing to Sita everything that happened between her abduction and her liberation from Ravan.
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Posted: 16 years ago
#93

Originally posted by: Chandraketu


Maybe, but one thing I did like here was mother-in-law+own daughter in-law, as they showed with Sumitra+Urmila+Srutakirti. One thing that irked me the other day was them showing Urmila misbehaving with Sumitra, but being more respectful towards Kaushalya. Sure, she served them both, but to show her as preferring Kaushalya to Sumitra is overdoing it.

Another thing - Kaikeyi, prior to Dasharath's death, had a history of misbehaving towards Kaushalya & Sumitra, and during those 14 years, did not reconcile with them, until Rama's return. I don't want to violate forum rules by invoking Ramanand Sagar's version, but there, they showed correctly her living isolated, and not in the company of Kaushalya & Sumitra. I don't like the Ayodhya part of the inventions Sagar is coming up with.
He actually does that?
From what I recall, Janak (nor his brother) never had any sons, and unlike Dasharath, neither did he want any. Given that he had no male heirs, I'm surprised that he never asked Rama to let him have one of Sita's or Urmila's sons to install as yuvraj of Mithila.

I want the final battle between Rama & Ravan to last over 2 episodes, and I wouldn't mind if the Agni-pariksha was rushed, or even skipped. Just get to Brahma & Dasharath seeing Rama, and then, on their return flight, like Akhl wanted, I hope they show Rama describing to Sita everything that happened between her abduction and her liberation from Ravan.

Yup, Kaikeyi never reconciled with Kaushalya and Kaikeyi during the 14 years: one because she was still wracked by guilt on exiling Ram. And two because that co-wife rivalry was still there. After Rajyabhishek, I think that was when everyone really forgave Kaikeyi, because Ram was made King.
No, neither King Janak or King Kushadvaj had any sons. Both had only two daughters, and were happy that way too.
I agree with Chandra that the final battle should last two episodes, or else it will be too rushed, and the Agni Pariksha should at the most last half an episode. Anything more than that will seem too dragged. I wouldn't mind it happening in a song like the older one either, because I liked it that way. But......one thing I was disappointed in the older one was that they did not show Rama's harsh words to Sita. They just said Ram spoke harsh words to Sita, but they did not clarify.
In this one, I think they should show 3 minutes of Shri Ram speaking harsh words to Sita, 3 minutes of Sita's passionate reply, and then the agni pariksha. After that, Agni should appear and tell Ram of sita's chastity, Ram should say that he always knew of Sita's Chastity and the Agni Pariksha was only to proove it to the whole world. Then Indra Dev and Brahmanji should appear in the heavens, have their conversation with Shri Ram, then Dasharath appears and Shri Ram asks him to forgive Kaikeyi Mata, Indra Dev gives Shri Ram the boon that all the vanaras who died come back to life.
You get the gist of what I'm saying.😊 All in all, I think after Ravan's funeral is done, no more than 3-4 episodes should be used before everyone returns to Ayodhya. Anything more than that will seem dragged, and I want to see Rajyabhishek and Uttar Kand soon.😆
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Posted: 16 years ago
#94
i heard this story of LORD HANUMAN releasing all the 9 planets from RAVANS dungeon on the news channel aaj tak in the show DHARMA ,
as HANUMANJI freed all the 9 planets including shani ,so shani dev was so obliged to HANUMANJI that he promised HANUMANJI that i willl never do any harm to all your devotees HANUMAN !! & in those places where ur worshipped i won't enter those places !!!!
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Posted: 16 years ago
#95

Originally posted by: Mandodari

Get the Yudh done already! I want to go back to Ayodhya now.

At one level, it's funny to see Mandodari rooting for Ravan to be off'ed soon (the original Mandodari did everything to prevent it). 😆😆😆 Vibs, what say you? 😆😆😆
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Posted: 16 years ago
#96

Originally posted by: sita11

i heard this story of LORD HANUMAN releasing all the 9 planets from RAVANS dungeon on the news channel aaj tak in the show DHARMA ,

as HANUMANJI freed all the 9 planets including shani ,so shani dev was so obliged to HANUMANJI that he promised HANUMANJI that i willl never do any harm to all your devotees HANUMAN !! & in those places where ur worshipped i won't enter those places !!!!

Sita

Thanks for this description. I do have a stupid question - why is Shani considered inauspicious/ashubh?
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Posted: 16 years ago
#97

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

Sita

Thanks for this description. I do have a stupid question - why is Shani considered inauspicious/ashubh?

well shani dev is not considered as ashubh ,rather everyone is scared of shani dev as it is said that if shani dev enters in anyones life as dhaiya(2 & half yrs) & saade saati(7 yrs) in the horoscope ,then for some it is really lucky & for some it is unlucky ,
it is said that if shani dev enters the house of surya dev in the horoscope then tht really harms tht person ,mostly it is considered that the glance of shani dev is not fruitful, the vakra drishti of shani dev (the vakra glance /the in auspicious glance) of shanidev harms a person ,
all the jyotishi (taro readers & the planet readers ) say tht shani dev not always harms a person ,shani dev mostly harm those who do bad deeds in their lives ot they had done some bad deeds in their purva janam (previous life) ,
for some shani dev is lucky also (tht depends upon the stars of tht person n all & if shani dev is happy wid tht person)
but shanidev cannot harm a true HANUMAN devotee that is why all the priests say tht if one wants to get rid off the shani dev affect in ones life then tht person shud seek the blessings of hanumanji or try to make efforts to make shani dev by giving daan & offering oil to shani dev(the mustard oil) every saturday !!!
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Posted: 16 years ago
#98
Sita, I have also heard people say that when someone is having bad luck in general, they think it's because of Shani Dev. When I was very little in India, I have seen people take oil to the temple for Shani and I never knew why they did that!
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Posted: 16 years ago
#99

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

At one level, it's funny to see Mandodari rooting for Ravan to be off'ed soon (the original Mandodari did everything to prevent it). 😆😆😆 Vibs, what say you? 😆😆😆

Your wit has made me speechless again, Chandra ji. Actually, I agree with you. It is sort of funny to notice that when people wanted to see more of Ravan and when it is shown they want him finished off soon. But we can't blame them. Showing all these stories at this point - the final stage of the war is a bit dragging. No offence meant.
I expected these stories to be shown in the Uttar Kand - when the sages tell Ram about Ravan, his birth, his deeds and about Indrajeet. I was surprised they showed it now.
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Posted: 16 years ago
Thanks Sita ji for the explanation on Shani Dev. I was wondering why his glance was considered inauspicious.
The serial 'Mahima Shani Dev ki' shows his life in detail. So many stories in it were new to me.

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