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Originally posted by: Chandraketu
Ignoring the troll... 👎🏼
One question here - just as Ravan and Kumbhakarna were Jaya and Vijaya, who was Vibhishan i.e. what were his divine origins? It was said that because Kaikesi approached her husband at an inauspicious moment, the consequence would be that all her sons would be rakshashas. Upon her pleading, he granted that one of them would be virtuous, and that was Vibhishan. (Similarly, Atikay was portrayed in this serial as being either Madhu or Kaitabh, but was there also a divine origin of Indrajit?)
Rupali made an interesting observation about ghar ka bedi Vibhishan being a common proverb, and that brings up an intriguing question. Given how almost all people take Rama's side over Ravan's, why do they instantly associate Vibhishan with family rebellion, when the same thing could more accurately be said about Kaikeyi or Manthara?? I recently saw an excerpt of a movie where a corrupt man and his son accused his upright daughter of being a ghar-shatru Vibhishan, and her comeback was instantaneous - Vibhishan was betraying an evil doer such as Ravan, and her father seemed to choose a curious role model. It would seem to me that that would be the instant ready retort of anybody being accused of being a Vibhishan, whereas an accusation of being a Kaikeyi would be tougher to refute on an analogy plane.
On a related (to the DOTW topic), Ravan frequently boasts about being unconquered, but he was defeated on 3 occasions:
1. Bali (rakshasha ruler related to Prahlad, but not the same Bali who was humbled in Vamana-avatar) and failed to lift Hiranyakashipu's earrings
2. Kartavirya Arjuna/Sahasrabahu
3. Vali (as in Vali & Sugriv), in the episode depicted in the serial
And on top of this, he was held to a stalemate by another Ayodhya ruler Mandhata when his Shiv-trishul got locked with Mandhata's brahmastra, and Brahma got them to disengage in order to prevent the world from being destroyed by these 2 ultimate weapons being used against each other.
Oh, and the funniest part of his reign - rakshash ruler Madhu of Madhupura (later Mathura under Shatrughan) abducted Ravan's cousin Kumbheenasee, since at the time, Ravan was busy widowing Shurpanakha, Indrajit was going through his vrath including silence, Vibhishan was doing his tapas standing in water, while Kumbhakarna was asleep. Once Ravan got news of this, he invaded Madhu's kingdom, but by then, Kumbheenasee had already married Madhu and requested Ravan not to widow her. Ravan then befriended his new brother in law and got him to join him in an invasion of deva lok.
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The above story, in the light of all the women that Ravan ever abducted, is too funny for words - somebody abducting a sister of Ravan (because Ravan, Indrajit and Vibhishan were too busy with other things) and then getting away with it 🤣 🤣🤣
thanks rupa for this DOTW on RAVAN 😊.
so many curses on ravans head .wonder how he kept smiling after getting loads of curses😕.all i can say is tht i don't remember any good deeds of ravan ,all the evil deeds of ravan i know.ravan was really a lusty man ,he abducted so many women😡.all the brahman part in ravan was totaly destroyed ,he slowly became all rakshas😡.only vibhshan was the true brahmin in ravans family !!!!😛i read in one of the websites tht once ravan thought tht he wud make a stair upto the heaven ,so tht everyone cud pay visit to the heaven . the other good deed ravan thought of was to make the sea water sweet !! so tht everyone cud also drink sea water . But he thought later he wud accomplish these 2 dreams of his ,he indulged in all the monstrous stuff in his life & forgot these two great missions of his life .
Originally posted by: Chandraketu
Kumbheenasee had a son Lavanasura, who became the ruler of Madhupura, and later was killed in battle by Shatrughan after Rama became ruler of Ayodhya.
Another intriguing factoid is that Ravan never thought of asking Lavanasura for help, such as invading Ayodhya in order to totally shatter Rama & Lakshman's confidence. He called allies like Mahiravan from Rasootal, but he never thought of asking the ruler of Madhupura to invade Kosala, which with Shiva's trishul, he'd surely have killed Bharat and Shatrughan and captured all the Raghukul womenfolk.
And Sharath, if you really think that it was bad for Vibhishan to side with Ram, then study Bhagavad Gita properly.