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Posted: 16 years ago
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And Sharath, if you really think that it was bad for Vibhishan to side with Ram, then study Bhagavad Gita properly.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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wow
fantastic replies
rupali i really dont hv much to say except ravan was good actually and as mentioned before his mothers ambitions poisoned his mind and i m not sure but somehow ravan was aware of supreme power of ram as lord vishnu and hence he did all evil so he as one of dwarpal of vishnu cud rid of the curse he had and join vishnu lok
that i read or heard not sure
but i love these epics so many stories r there
but funny chandra story i havent heard abt chor ke ghar chori
interesting bit there
for vibishan no matter what good he did or tried to do he is always known as ghar ka bhedi lankha dhaye
i dont wish to write abt shakuni here as he is from mahabharat character
and interesting fact this also as was mentioned
if ravan and kumbhakarn were avataars of jay and vijay what abt indrajeet
good topic again rupali
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Posted: 16 years ago
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ya true chatter di
its time for Indrajeet now
plz somebody search and get abt indrajeet
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Chandraketu

Ignoring the troll... 👎🏼

One question here - just as Ravan and Kumbhakarna were Jaya and Vijaya, who was Vibhishan i.e. what were his divine origins? It was said that because Kaikesi approached her husband at an inauspicious moment, the consequence would be that all her sons would be rakshashas. Upon her pleading, he granted that one of them would be virtuous, and that was Vibhishan. (Similarly, Atikay was portrayed in this serial as being either Madhu or Kaitabh, but was there also a divine origin of Indrajit?)

Rupali made an interesting observation about ghar ka bedi Vibhishan being a common proverb, and that brings up an intriguing question. Given how almost all people take Rama's side over Ravan's, why do they instantly associate Vibhishan with family rebellion, when the same thing could more accurately be said about Kaikeyi or Manthara?? I recently saw an excerpt of a movie where a corrupt man and his son accused his upright daughter of being a ghar-shatru Vibhishan, and her comeback was instantaneous - Vibhishan was betraying an evil doer such as Ravan, and her father seemed to choose a curious role model. It would seem to me that that would be the instant ready retort of anybody being accused of being a Vibhishan, whereas an accusation of being a Kaikeyi would be tougher to refute on an analogy plane.

On a related (to the DOTW topic), Ravan frequently boasts about being unconquered, but he was defeated on 3 occasions:

1. Bali (rakshasha ruler related to Prahlad, but not the same Bali who was humbled in Vamana-avatar) and failed to lift Hiranyakashipu's earrings

2. Kartavirya Arjuna/Sahasrabahu

3. Vali (as in Vali & Sugriv), in the episode depicted in the serial

And on top of this, he was held to a stalemate by another Ayodhya ruler Mandhata when his Shiv-trishul got locked with Mandhata's brahmastra, and Brahma got them to disengage in order to prevent the world from being destroyed by these 2 ultimate weapons being used against each other.

Oh, and the funniest part of his reign - rakshash ruler Madhu of Madhupura (later Mathura under Shatrughan) abducted Ravan's cousin Kumbheenasee, since at the time, Ravan was busy widowing Shurpanakha, Indrajit was going through his vrath including silence, Vibhishan was doing his tapas standing in water, while Kumbhakarna was asleep. Once Ravan got news of this, he invaded Madhu's kingdom, but by then, Kumbheenasee had already married Madhu and requested Ravan not to widow her. Ravan then befriended his new brother in law and got him to join him in an invasion of deva lok.
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The above story, in the light of all the women that Ravan ever abducted, is too funny for words - somebody abducting a sister of Ravan (because Ravan, Indrajit and Vibhishan were too busy with other things) and then getting away with it 🤣 🤣🤣


wow one of the intersting fact chanderketu....
its quite amazing that his own cousin got abducted......
Jaisi karni Vaisi bharni
that is all i can say about him...
thanks for all the info about Ravan...
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: sita11

thanks rupa for this DOTW on RAVAN 😊.

so many curses on ravans head .
wonder how he kept smiling after getting loads of curses😕.
all i can say is tht i don't remember any good deeds of ravan ,
all the evil deeds of ravan i know.
ravan was really a lusty man ,he abducted so many women😡.
all the brahman part in ravan was totaly destroyed ,he slowly became all rakshas😡.
only vibhshan was the true brahmin in ravans family !!!!😛
i read in one of the websites tht once ravan thought tht he wud make a stair upto the heaven ,so tht everyone cud pay visit to the heaven . the other good deed ravan thought of was to make the sea water sweet !! so tht everyone cud also drink sea water . But he thought later he wud accomplish these 2 dreams of his ,he indulged in all the monstrous stuff in his life & forgot these two great missions of his life .


well thts good that he thought in that way to...
tht remind me of one more thing which my mom told me...
she said its there in some Ramayan ..........
but its something good about ravan..
she told me that During Rameshwaram Pooja Ramji was not able to find any sage.....
so things happened like this that he need to call Ravan as he is also a brahmin...and being Shivji his ISHTDev he cannot deny the offer too...and at the same time.... she bring Sitaji too...because pooja was incomplete w/o wife.....
well its not true according to me..... but my mom belive it so i thought to share it with u guys...as it do show another side of Ravan...


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Posted: 16 years ago
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hmm this was told by Rupa Di to me i always ask her to post all the stories she share with us but she always became lazy...
but its quite interesting thing that she told me..... she hear it in some katha...
after inderjeet's death Ravan send one letter to Ramji that he need one day break from war so that he can perform all the last rituals of his son....
when Ramji read this he got agree with one conditionn allow him to attend his furneal......

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: rupalip

Thanks for the kumbheenasee story ....
Chor ke ghar CHori 😆


thanks chandra for kumbhanasee's story. i never heard that
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Kumbheenasee had a son Lavanasura, who became the ruler of Madhupura, and later was killed in battle by Shatrughan after Rama became ruler of Ayodhya.

Another intriguing factoid is that Ravan never thought of asking Lavanasura for help, such as invading Ayodhya in order to totally shatter Rama & Lakshman's confidence. He called allies like Mahiravan from Rasootal, but he never thought of asking the ruler of Madhupura to invade Kosala, which with Shiva's trishul, he'd surely have killed Bharat and Shatrughan and captured all the Raghukul womenfolk.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Chandraketu

Kumbheenasee had a son Lavanasura, who became the ruler of Madhupura, and later was killed in battle by Shatrughan after Rama became ruler of Ayodhya.

Another intriguing factoid is that Ravan never thought of asking Lavanasura for help, such as invading Ayodhya in order to totally shatter Rama & Lakshman's confidence. He called allies like Mahiravan from Rasootal, but he never thought of asking the ruler of Madhupura to invade Kosala, which with Shiva's trishul, he'd surely have killed Bharat and Shatrughan and captured all the Raghukul womenfolk.

Scary thought, but probably true. However, I don't know if he could have killed Bharat and Shatrughan, because they were incarnations of Lord Vishnu's sudarshan chakra and conch.
But the Lord probably did not put the thought in Ravan's head to ask Lavanasur for help, because that would have caused trouble for Ayodhya.
I thought of something else also. Wasn't Lavanasur's father ruling around the time of the Ramayana war? Maybe that's why Ravan did not ask for him. Lavanasur's father was supposed to be kind hearted.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: akhl

And Sharath, if you really think that it was bad for Vibhishan to side with Ram, then study Bhagavad Gita properly.

Very true. Lord Krishna told in the Bhagavat Gita that when it came to upholding Dharma in the world, relations do not matter at all.

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