Discuss generic ethics related issues

In one forum, I saw chat and spam threads. In those threads, you can chat with others and post things not related to the serial of that forum. Even the admin Vijay is OK with such threads, so it cannot be said against rule.

But, I do not want any chat and spam thread in this forum. You may ask then why I started this thread. I started this thread to discuss things, which are not exactly related to the Ramayan serial but these are related to topics like ethics, morality and other human values.

As you know the epic Ramayan is a storehouse of human values. So if such things are discussed, then it will not be really off-forum. But at the same time, it will also not be strictly related to the serial.

I have started this thread for such kinds of discussions. Let me give one example. godisone once started a thread related to abortion. Different people have and the right to have different opinions on abortion. But all agree that it is a topic closely related to morality. Ramayan is also related to morality. In that sense, there is some similarity. But at the same time, abortion is not directly a part of Ramayan serial.

Such topics should be discussed here.

When I say general opinions and feelings, it does not mean that any and everything can be posted here.

This thread is to discuss topics which are not directly related to the Ramayan serial but they are related to ethics, morality, human values etc.

Thanks for starting an actual discussion. But this is directly related to Ramayan. So, it can be discussed in a separate thread. Can even be made DOTW if you feel.

I will search for your thread on abortion and put its contents here. That will give an example of kind of topics to be discussed here.

Dear Ramayan Forum members,

This is a very heartrending poem about abortion I found on the Internet. I don't know who wrote it, but it is soooo sad that I felt like crying. My sister actually cried for a long time after she read it. It has nothing to do with Ramayan, so if the mods want to close this topic, that's fine, but I didn't know where else to put this.

~Lalitha Janaki~

Month one

Mommy
I am only 8 inches long
but I have all my organs.
I love the sound of your voice.
Every time I hear it
I wave my arms and legs.
The sound of your heart beat
is my favorite lullaby.

Month Two

Mommy
today I learned how to suck my thumb.
If you could see me
you could definitely tell that I am a baby.
I'm not big enough to survive outside my home though.
It is so nice and warm in here.

Month Three

You know what Mommy
I'm a boy!!
I hope that makes you happy.
I always want you to be happy.
I don't like it when you cry.
You sound so sad.
It makes me sad too
and I cry with you even though
you can't hear me.

Month Four

Mommy
my hair is starting to grow.
It is very short and fine
but I will have a lot of it.
I spend a lot of my time exercising.
I can turn my head and curl my fingers and toes
and stretch my arms and legs.
I am becoming quite good at it too.

Month Five

You went to the doctor today.
Mommy, he lied to you.
He said that I'm not a baby.
I am a baby Mommy, your baby.
I think and feel.
Mommy, what's abortion?

Month Six

I can hear that doctor again.
I don't like him.
He seems cold and heartless.
Something is intruding my home.
The doctor called it a needle.
Mommy what is it? It burns!
Please make him stop!
I can't get away from it!
Mommy! HELP me!

Month Seven

Mommy
I am okay.
I am in Jesus's arms.
He is holding me.
He told me about abortion.
Why didn't you want me Mommy?

Every Abortion Is Just . . .

One more heart that was stopped.
Two more eyes that will never see.
Two more hands that will never touch.
Two more legs that will never run.
One more mouth that will never speak.

😭

Before I read this poem, my views on abortion were very unclear. I didn't know whether I was against it or not. I mean, I never supported it, but I didn't know exactly how I felt about it. I don't want to say too much on this subjet, because there are children on this forum also, but my opinon is that someone who conceives a child, even by accident, knowing full well what they were doing, has the responsibility to keep the child, because once conceived, a baby is a baby, and it has life the minute, no, second, that it was conceived, but what about rape? What about all those innocent women who get pregnant when it is completely out of their power? I can't make an opinion abotu their responsibility, because something like rape causes such trauma for a woman, and unwanted pregnancy alongside with that trauma is terrible for that woman. Is abortion wrong for them? Yet...it is not the baby's fault any of that happened, so...I don't know what's right or wrong in the case of rape.

its really sad😭😭😭. I think u posted this poem before too. anyways this is kalyug and this thing bond to happen. already our scriptures like mahabharata annouced "the mother will slay there son in kalyug' Vana parv sec clXXXiX. the ladies who is doing abortion is doing nothin but killing her own baby🤢🤢🤢. no other sin in this world is more harse and disgusting than this😡😡😡. i really pity for that child who before coming in this world and seeing even a single day have to go in hand of death😭😭😭. for her mother deed😡😡

I never posted this poem before, maybe someone else did, but anyway, you're right. I feel the same way too, but what about the woman who gets raped and becomes pregnant? Is it wrong for her to have abortion?