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Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Dunno about that. There is also a description of sun coming down from sky and impregnating Kunti.😛

A theory is that Durvasha was Suryavanshi and father of Karna. So Sun is the father of Karna.

Originally posted by: vyapti

A theory is that Durvasha was Suryavanshi and father of Karna. So Sun is the father of Karna.

I would say theory is prob correct since Anga was ruled by Suryavanshi kings, and Athirath was Suryavanshi descendant of same Anga kings.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Dunno about that. There is also a description of sun coming down from sky and impregnating Kunti.😛

That is there too. 😎😎

Bye the way I was wondering SuryaDev came to Karna just after he had completed his Suryavandanda of Suryoday. To think of it just after Suryoday, he left his standard part, probably there would have been darkness all around

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m01/m01107.htm

Hearing her, he replied, 'The son of the princess she will bring forth shall be equal in might unto ten thousand elephants. He will be an illustrious royal sage, possessed of great learning and intelligence and energy. The high-souled one shall have in his time a century of sons. But from the fault of his mother he shall be blind 'At these words of her son, Satyavati said, 'O thou of ascetic wealth, how can one that is blind become a monarch worthy of the Kurus? How can one that is blind become the protector of his relatives and family, and the glory of his father's race? It behoveth thee to give another king unto the Kurus.' Saying, 'So be it,' Vyasa went away. And the first princess of Kosala in due time brought forth a blind son.

"Soon after Satyavati, O chastiser of foes, summoned Vyasa, after having secured the assent of her daughter-in-law. Vyasa came according to his promise, and approached, as before, the second wife of his brother. And Ambalika beholding the Rishi, became pale with fear And, O Bharata, beholding her so afflicted and pale with fear, Vyasa addressed her and said, 'Because thou hast been pale with fear at the sight of my grim visage, therefore, thy child shall be pale in complexion. O thou of handsome face, the name also thy child shall bear will be Pandu (the pale).' 'Saying this, the illustrious and best of Rishis came out of her chamber. And as he came out, he was met by his mother who asked him about the would-be-child. The Rishi told her that the child would be of pale complexion and known by the name of Pandu. Satyavati again begged of the Rishi another child, and the Rishi told her in reply, 'So be it.' Ambalika, then, when her time came, brought forth a son of pale complexion. Blazing with beauty the child was endued with all auspicious marks. Indeed, it was this child who afterwards became the father of those mighty archers, the Pandavas.

"Some time after, when the oldest of Vichitravirya's widows again had her monthly season, she was solicited by Satyavati to approach Vyasa once again. Possessed of beauty like a daughter of a celestial, the princess refused to do her mother-in-law's bidding, remembering the grim visage and strong odour of the Rishi. She, however, sent unto him, a maid of hers, endued with the beauty of an Apsara and decked with her own ornaments.

Oh then Vidur was younger to Dhritrashtra Pandu by about a year

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

I would say theory is prob correct since Anga was ruled by Suryavanshi kings, and Athirath was Suryavanshi descendant of same Anga kings.

No Anga was ruled by Chandravanshi. They were also Yayati descendants. The three brothers had found the kingdoms of Anga Banga and Kalinga and had promised each other that they would always stand by side of each other. Hence all these three kingdoms always supported each other in ancient prehistoric India/mythology

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

By the way when did Dashrath perform Ashwamedh Yagya? Was it before the Putrasukti or after that.

Asking this for an important thought

First Ashwamedh then Putrakameshti.

https://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/baala/sarga14/bala_14_frame.htm

Anga was not suryavanshi. Anga was chandravanshi. Specifically descendend from Puru lineage king Bali through Niyoga of his wife with Rishi Dirghatamas

So by adoption Karna was cousins with kourava and pandavas

Anga as well as its neighbours all were Puru lineage chandravanshi by neighbours I mean Vanga Pundra Suhma Magadha Utkala Kalinga

The nearest suryavanshi neighbours to Anga were Kasi Kosala and Karusha and Malava with at least 1 kingdom in between Anga and these suryavanshi kingdoms.

Dasrath was friends with Romapada Puru a chandravanshi.

If Surya was a prince from suryavanshi kingdom the only viable option is Kasi/Kosala or Karusha.

I think Karusha is a better option. Her sister married into Karusha royal family and was the queen there. If that sister was a few years older could be a relative who had the access and opportunity to impregnate Kunti

Originally posted by: Chiillii

Anga was not suryavanshi. Anga was chandravanshi. Specifically descendend from Puru lineage king Bali through Niyoga of his wife with Rishi Dirghatamas

So by adoption Karna was cousins with kourava and pandavas

Anga as well as its neighbours all were Puru lineage chandravanshi by neighbours I mean Vanga Pundra Suhma Magadha Utkala Kalinga

The nearest suryavanshi neighbours to Anga were Kasi Kosala and Karusha and Malava with at least 1 kingdom in between Anga and these suryavanshi kingdoms.

Dasrath was friends with Romapada Puru a chandravanshi.

If Surya was a prince from suryavanshi kingdom the only viable option is Kasi/Kosala or Karusha.

I think Karusha is a better option. Her sister married into Karusha royal family and was the queen there. If that sister was a few years older could be a relative who had the access and opportunity to impregnate Kunti

@Bold that would 10th cousin or so and therefore not a cousin for any practical purpose. HV in itself mentions around 10 generations of Anga royalty starting from Rompada (translation in English has mentioned Dashrath in place of Rompada I guess that's why people get confused that Anga was Suryavanshi)

And Romapada himself wasn't the founder of Anga and therefore they would have separated from Hastinapur lineage even before

P.S. do you think Adhirath was the king of Anga? Or was he a brother/first cousin of the king of Anga

Originally posted by: Chiillii

Anga was not suryavanshi. Anga was chandravanshi. Specifically descendend from Puru lineage king Bali through Niyoga of his wife with Rishi Dirghatamas

So by adoption Karna was cousins with kourava and pandavas

Anga as well as its neighbours all were Puru lineage chandravanshi by neighbours I mean Vanga Pundra Suhma Magadha Utkala Kalinga

The nearest suryavanshi neighbours to Anga were Kasi Kosala and Karusha and Malava with at least 1 kingdom in between Anga and these suryavanshi kingdoms.

Dasrath was friends with Romapada Puru a chandravanshi.

If Surya was a prince from suryavanshi kingdom the only viable option is Kasi/Kosala or Karusha.

I think Karusha is a better option. Her sister married into Karusha royal family and was the queen there. If that sister was a few years older could be a relative who had the access and opportunity to impregnate Kunti

I have read somewhere that Pritha was the eldest child of Shura. Shura promised to childless Kuntibhoja that he will give his eldest child to Kuntibhoja for adoption. So Pritha, the eldest child of Shura, was adopted by Kuntibhoja and renamed Kunti.

Then Kunti is the eldest daughter of Shura and eldest daughter of Kuntibhoja as well. But if the sister you mentioned is a cousin sister then she can be older to Kunti.

Could Karna not be the biological son Durwasa Rishi himself?

With Parashar Muni Matasyagandha/Satyavati relation we know that Rishi sewa included that Sewa as well