If Aahil doesn't respect wife, why should Rehan respect the marriage?

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Jayne

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Posted: 11 years ago

#121

^^^Sure, as I said, my consultations need not have been the only source.
Suffice to say, I like progressive POVs, and if that is being observed, I am all for it.

ARI on the other hand, seems to hide all his bad-boy behavior under the excuse of, 'I was physically abused as a boy."
To my mind, even R suffered abuse - emotional, at least. Abandoned by his mother, in an orphanage for 5 years or so, then picked up by his mom but having to pretend she is not his mom and work as an 'assistant' to ARI all his life.
These are everyday traumas for him that he still faces and yet he is a nice person.
Regarding the SBS scenes, did he overstep his boundaries, I don't really think so...he was being a friend, but then again, knowing the delicacy of the situation perhaps a little circumspection was required.
ARI, on the other hand, behaved like an out and out *ss.

Jayne

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rabees011

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Posted: 11 years ago

#122

Originally posted by: Jayne
^^^Sure, as I said, my consultations need not have been the only source.
Suffice to say, I like progressive POVs, and if that is being observed, I am all for it.

ARI on the other hand, seems to hide all his bad-boy behavior under the excuse of, 'I was physically abused as a boy."
To my mind, even R suffered abuse - emotional, at least. Abandoned by his mother, in an orphanage for 5 years or so, then picked up by his mom but having to pretend she is not his mom and work as an 'assistant' to ARI all his life.
These are everyday traumas for him that he still faces and yet he is a nice person.
Regarding the SBS scenes, did he overstep his boundaries, I don't really think so...he was being a friend, but then again, knowing the delicacy of the situation perhaps a little circumspection was required.
ARI, on the other hand, behaved like an out and out *ss.

Jayne

👏Hats off to that!👏 This is why I feel worse for Rehan. Even i don't think Rehan or Sanam has done anything wrong. It is AAHIL who needs RECTIFY his mistakes and apologize publicly to Sanam for whatever he has done. If he truly loves Sanam, then his feelings of jealousy may be justified but his ACTIONS ARE NOT. If he wants Sanam to reciprocate the same feelings, then he better improve or AT LEAST he should make an attempt to redeem himself knowing that he also had the obligation to marry her for property at the last moment although love might also have played a role behind his "Qubool Hai." Anyways, kudos to you for standing up for Sanam. My blood boiled with rage when i saw that post with the "property tag" for Sanam being justified immorally by using little knowledge of the religion. Little knowledge of anything is injurious to health. I am so glad to see members like you standing up to injustice and replying back.👏

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KhatamKahani

@KhatamKahani

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Posted: 11 years ago

#123

I think Aahil needs to apologize to Sanam for this insults within 24 hours of it happening. I don't think I can take it if it's ignored and other romantic stuff happen, brushing over his humiliating insults in public.

Edited by KhatamKahani - 11 years ago

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KhatamKahani

@KhatamKahani

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Posted: 11 years ago

#124

Originally posted by: Jayne
^^^Sure, as I said, my consultations need not have been the only source.
Suffice to say, I like progressive POVs, and if that is being observed, I am all for it.

ARI on the other hand, seems to hide all his bad-boy behavior under the excuse of, 'I was physically abused as a boy."
To my mind, even R suffered abuse - emotional, at least. Abandoned by his mother, in an orphanage for 5 years or so, then picked up by his mom but having to pretend she is not his mom and work as an 'assistant' to ARI all his life.
These are everyday traumas for him that he still faces and yet he is a nice person.
Regarding the SBS scenes, did he overstep his boundaries, I don't really think so...he was being a friend, but then again, knowing the delicacy of the situation perhaps a little circumspection was required.
ARI, on the other hand, behaved like an out and out *ss.

Jayne

But I disagree. Rehan grew up grateful to Begum Sahiba, and only found out later in life that she is his real mother. And with that her real nature was also revealed to him.

Tanveer never made sure to raise up Rehan with her brand of upbringing. Tanveer made sure to groom and raise Ahil in a way that she believed would make his heart a batten desert. Aahil was abused and then made to believe he killed his own father, and his mother took the blame and punishment. This after he's also seen his father abuse his mother when she tried to protect him.

And in top of that, on top of all the guilt and psychological issues, Tanveer used his weakness and worship of her to mould him in ways she never did with Rehan. She wanted Rehan to love her and to be able to love. Whereas with Aahil what she made sure was that Aahil would be her psychologically damaged puppet whom she wants not to be capable of love.

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Jayne

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Posted: 11 years ago

#125

^^^I am not certain...
Whatever Tunveer taught ARI, because of his work and company, filtered down to R also.
Was R made aware of her mommy-status only recently? I did not know that.

Plus heaping guilt on a child and teaching him to undercut people on business deals, telling him to continue with his nightlife and bachelor activities are definitely not sterling values.
However, we, as audience, like ARI because his own heart is good. So regardless of whatever Tunveer taught him, we expect that he never truly hurt anyone (girlfriends, businessmen, etc.). This point, can, of course, be argued, but he is gray so that is part of the grayness.

But his bad-boy behavior is not without raising his conscience, since he is supposed to be good at heart.
He believes in marriage, the vows, the commitment. Nobody taught this to him, least of all Tunveer.
And here the dichotomy reveals itself.
If he is indeed good at heart, then regardless of his avowed 'false' marriage with S, he would still, in public, carry out his 'husband' avatar.
That does not include insulting and humiliating her with sarcastic love words in company.
It does include feeling jealous and dancing closely with her to stake his 'claim' on her. Men tend to get territorial and do that. (Not manhandling, though).

R, on the other hand has always been white, observing all proprieties, and that very characteristic ought to preclude him from touching the boss's wife or even publicly longing for her, no matter how friendly they were before or how friendly she is now. Private anguish is another matter.

On a lighter note:
ARI burned her diner.
S burnt his car.

ARI challenged her and broke liquor bottles.
She broke the last bottle.

ARI humiliated her in media (as the girl he kissed) falsely.
S humiliated him in front of family and Aasma, etc., by loudly proclaiming his cheating at the sweetmeat weighing. It was the truth.

ARI wouldn't share his blanket.
S wouldn't share her stole.

S said, "Please don't leave me." (in sleep)
ARI said, "Please don't leave me." (in sleep)

ARI said, "You married me for money."
S said, "You married me for money, too."

Each time he has taken his comeuppance silently, no matter his ego which reared its ugly head later, because he knew she was in the right.

I am now waiting for this:
ARI comes out of the shower topless, and she is lust-struck.
S...

😆

Jayne

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KhatamKahani

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Posted: 11 years ago

#126

^^^ Tanveer revealed to Rehan he was her real son that night Sanam was buried. Till then he didn't know.

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Tamara27

@Tamara27

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Posted: 11 years ago

#127

Originally posted by: Ruchi-interest

Romanticizing MARDANGI is something very new, 🤢 the day women started drooling over MARDANGI that day will be the doomsday. I was not as much offended by the property thing as much by this MARDANGI. Doesn't the repercussions of MARDANGI are read by us daily in print or some of us have stopped to flip TV Channels from Gul's Indian Harlequin to some Current Affair. MARDANGI seriously .. it is still driving me mad.😡

P.S.-- The no. times I wrote MARDANGI I think I am obsessed 😆

Someone please explain MARDANGI to me???

Please 😕

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Tamara27

@Tamara27

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Posted: 11 years ago

#128

Originally posted by: Ruchi-interest

I totally get it girl today my mum switched on some Masala South Indian movie and the hero of the film was apparently pataoing the female by feeling her up on a Bus Stand. And, A few days back on youtube I was watching this Hum Saath Saath Hai review by Kanan Gill which is kinda similar to MBC Reviews. There a girl just commented on how women were and are objectified in bollywood and this jerk wannabe ass of a guy jumped to female reservation and we women are inferior to men. for like 36+ comments and then when I commented on it he was like using profanities and all. Some jerk he was. Here's the trailer of his comments:-

Feminism is a ridiculously narrow minded ideology

So why do women have reservations in college? According to your logic, women should have no SPECIAL privileges, they should just have equal privileges as men, right? So you can't be supporting the fact that women have reservations in colleges, right? Because there is no such reservation for men.

Yes, so let us not get excited, shall we? Let us act according to the situation, like you say. Let us first address the problems at hand, lets get the women of this country out of their shell, lets get them learning and working, shall we? Feminism is a realistic impossibility, because women cannot ever be absolutely equal to men. Women are physically and intellectually inferior to men, don't mean to be rude, it is just my opinion. They cannot work as men. Men can take more pressure, men can work longer, and men don't take maternity leaves. The basic rights are already there for both men and women, there is no question in that. Feminism deals with the technicalities of the society, and focuses only on the problems of women, and not on those of men. Also, when you say the rights should be equal for men and women, I'd like you to mention a few valid points where women aren't equal to men(by law...don't play the rape card). I'd like to add that I'm respectful of women, and don't mean to be rude, this is just my opinion.
He is so respectful to women that I have tears in my eyes. 🤢 The so called educated men of this Indian society need a psychiatrist to get it into their narrow heads that the demographics of this nation are changing and they need to accept it. PERIOD. 😳

Woah, wait!

Who the hell is this guy and when are we meeting up to give him a piece of our minds (And maybe a piece of some baseball bat, too)

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Posted: 11 years ago

#129

Originally posted by: micshy
it does make her his property... after marriage only husband has most rights on his wife... even more than her parents... so if he feels that somebody else is touching his wife n he is feeling bad then its totally justified ... n in this case he LOVES his wife too...

p.s i want to add one thing having right on ur wife doesnt mean that u hv to ill treat her or insult her... but being a husband if somebody touches his wife n he wont feel bad about it then there is certainly a problem with his mardaangi 😛

I didn't go through all the posts but I would like to say a few things.. I understand where the TM is coming from. The rights and respect are reciprocal. I think the TM means that if Aahil doesn't give respect to Sanam as his wife, then it should not matter. But we all know he does think of her as his wife, so it does bother him. It's just that he likes to pretend.

@bold And lastly, I don't know if you meant it seriously but she will never be his property.. ever.

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Tamara27

@Tamara27

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Posted: 11 years ago

#130

Originally posted by: KhatamKahani

Don't get me wrong. I am still angry. I just said I may be less angry. I don't understand why they had to go this route...like can't they think of anything else? Don't they know how to do anything else?

I am dreading the upcoming two episodes to be honest

I know what you meant hun. I am on the same page as you. In fact, I didn't even watch last night, but I believe the one SaHil scene was cute. Looks like the week's episodes are going to be dreaded all round.

So... I'm thinking... (Maybe a rubbish prediction, based on the stupid segments we've seen)

Last night... She tells him that she's his wife - therefore he should listen. (I am unsure as to whether Sanam actually cares about him, or whether she's playing dutiful wife here)

Then... he's standing at the railing at home, see Sanam and Rehan holding hands and walking.

Granted, Sanam and Rehan are doing nothing wrong. But, let's remember that Aahil believes they're in love, and he loves and is married to a girl that is in love with his brother.

Look, I am very, very close to my hubby's brother and best friend - in fact... I was friends with them before him, even. But holding hands and walking around? It's something I would just feel odd doing (Still doesn't make it wrong for Sanam and Rehan, I get that)

But anyone could misconstrue that action,given what Aahil believes.

So then he says something about her being a "so-called" wife. I think he was taunting her about last night's pool scene. (Where I hope it shows that he listens to her)

So perhaps now he's like, "Why the act of being my wife, when you obviously want to be elsewhere?"

I am trying to understand him, not justify his actions, because believe me when I say... I am still mad about the insult and forced dance. But, I don't believe it had anything to do with anything Tanveer told him - it is all based on what he believes is happening with Rehan and Sanam.

I am starting to think... does he want her to hate him? Push her away to such a point that he believes will make it easier on his heart?

It could be seen as selfish or self-preservation... I am just not sure which right now.

Clearly, I stand very confused 😆