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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Drea_QH1fan

Asad telling her to not get involved is actually a nice way to put it. If it was me I keep saying I would tell her to get the hell away from me and STFU and not give a shit. If it was said like that then I can understand the outrage.


Asad's situation of not having a father is worse than Zoya's. He knows his father and knows that he left them, married another woman, had children with her and lived in the lap of luxury while he and his mother struggled. Zoya doesnt want to understand or tries to understand the severity of the situation. That does not go away just because.

I dont like the "She might be your mother but she is more than a mother to me" and the "before she was your mother she was my wife." lines. It comes off as them telling Asad that it doesnt matter if you're her son my relationship with her is more important than yours. f**k that shit. If they were the ones that lived for that woman and struggled along with her and saw her pain in those years. Then they can talk. They didnt experience it so they need to take damn back seat!

Dilshad will choose Rashid and thats perfectly fine. Let her go and receive some more pain from him. Let those vultures in that house break her spirit. She'll run back to Asad. If he's there to greet her. She might be running back to an empty house :P I wish he really will leave for NYC. Everyone always wants Zoya to go back. I want Asad to leave and get away from everyone of those leeches. 😆 Dude needs a break.


Yup I think thats what people are forgetting, he was actually being nice about it. And the fact that this is the only situation he was telling her not to be involved in, because she hasn't been there for all 17 years and she wasn't there when he left.
Not only is it worse because of that, but while even though Zoya's father left, she didn't spend 17 years struggling, she still got to feel the luxuries of life through her appi and jeeju, she didn't see her mother pine for her father. She didn't bear insults like they did.
That line really turned me off, it was totally uncalled for and like i said no different than Rashid's she was my wife first bull crap. Zoya shouldn't even try to compare her love to Asad's. Asad is a a part of DIlshad, and nothing can ever compare to that.
Asad definitely needs a break from all that crap and dealing with these people.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: sarbrathan

I agree with most of what you said but no I didn't expect this from Zoya but from Gul. Zoya has always been fiercely loyal to her loved ones and Asad is the most important for her. I expected Zoya to show maturity in this track. I didn't want Gul to equate AsYa to RaDil EVER because they are so different. Someone made an awesome post ("Rashid isn't Asad and Dilshad isn't Zoya something like that). I hate Gul for ruining her characters.

I think Asad wanted her to stay away from this situation because he wants to protect her from any difficulties.
Hopefully, when Zoya finds out how Shireen left she will see why RaDil was WRONG! The only true wrong person in this track is Rashid. He doesn't deserve to live a complete life or whatever crap he said. If you want to make amends with the family you abandon then have a BIG family dinner or something. Don't separate mothers from their children and emotionally blackmail both your wive🤢


Exactly I don't know why it's even comparable to Asad and Zoya. Two completely different stories and situations.
Asad wanted her to stay away because she doesn't understand. She probably never will. Why bother with someone who is only trying to see one side telling him to see the other side but cant see his.
Zoya should already understand how wrong Rashid and Dilshad are. She lived with Shireen and their family. Wasn't she just going on sometime abotu how she didn't want to break their hearts thats why she didnt want to leave. And that's why she did all the things she did and listen to them.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I think Zoya is an emotional fool who acts like a goody two shoes ! Asad asking not to involve herself in the matter should have been enough for her to back down ! And understand asad doesn't want to discuss it with her as it's hurting him .. Instead she turns it around and makes him look like the bad guy ! Zoya wants to make the whole world her family but only support RaDil ! Few weeks back didn't she call SM her family ! Did she think about what that family is going through ! As for what she thinks about asad ! No doubt she loves him ! But she will always want to change him and make him see her annoying ways and I'm so happy Asad gave Dilshaad the ultimatum !
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Much Needed Post...
Couldn't Agree With You More !
Thank You For Writing...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Oldestfan

Lavita, fighting words, girl!

I agree with you. Zoya is truly a one dimensional thinker. When has she ever said something that reflects a situaion that is not from her own perspective?

She felt love from this man. So she believes that everyone who thinks they are in love is destined for happiness.

Her reasoning reflects this. She uses her own example tp try to convince Asad. She may be able to convince him of how Dilshad is feeling at the moment, but that does not mean that Asad should stand down. I posted on a drabble just a while ago... She could have added.. Let you mother make her choice. Let her go down theat path, even though you know it will bring her heartbreak. Because she must do this for herself, before she can move on. Please dont force her to choose between you. You love your mother too much for that. Leave her a way back to you. Because what your abbu is asking is not sustainable, we bith know that. He does not love her truly.

But Zoya feels that rashid loves Dilshad, just because he mustered up the courage to do a fake Asad act! Incredible!


Haha! I'm actually a little calmer than I was earlier, but I'm just so angry with it I guess.
Zoya has always thought about herself and from her point. That's what I really dislike. If she wants Asad to understand the other side she needs to be willing to look at the other side of it too. She needs to see Asad's view as well.
She's like a little school girl, who thinks love comes before all, and yes it does, but in real life you gotta look at the circumstances. Should love even come before your children? I heard a mother's love for her child knows no bounds, is unconditional, yet I don't see that here. Life isn't a storybook. But that's what she believes. Her and Asad's story is not comparable to Dilshad and Rashids. Maybe instead of saying anything at that moment, she should have either left him alone, or just given him a hug, consoled him. You don't always need to use words to show someone you are there.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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dont waste your time...zoya can never be wrong. its not anyones fault, the writers just love to manipulate things in such a way zoya will always end up being mahaan even know at times she is so immature and bratty. when her time comes to face reality, she will also be mahaan then even tho its not realistic at all.
its not that i dont like zoya. i think there have been many times she has proven her love for asad, mainly with legalizing the zoyaan marriage to help nikhat because it was important to asad. that indeed was a great sacrifice

but i just feel when it comes to asad and his childhood and his relationship with his father, zoya has not been able to understand the depth of asad's pain and trauma. its mainly bc they are such different people. zoya i feel would forgive gaffur in a second for his crimes, whereas asad can never truly forgive rashid for his. i mean asad at one point held his father at gun point so one can imagine how much hate he has for rashid..that doesn't just go away bc he said sorry.

its just that in this situation zoya has been too insensitive to asad in her efforts to defend dilshad. i wish she had been more of a shoulder to cry on for asad at least for that DAY but she was ready to lecture him from the second rashid left. i just feel like zoya doesn't feel bad for asad's situation which is strange because one would think his pain would strike her the most considering how much she loves him

anyway this situation isnt about zoya so i dont want to make THIS about her also. everything cant always be about her. this is between rashid dilshad and asad.

and asad has had his large share of times when he was a jerk but this is not one of them. poor guy this didn't want to hear zoya lecture him about this.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: kankabhor

I am inactive on this forum from last week but your PM made me reply here..

I did not see any other post than this one on this forum, I am actually shocked to hear that today there was post about this too.. No wonder.. That one line was so important than whole drama, and poor guy will have to bear blame for that one line spoken in pain than the fact that he is going to be orphan next day.. For god's sake, give him a break.. His mom whom is loves more than anyone n this world, is going to leave him next day, and today he is getting blamed for the line he spoke to a girl who is being insensitive towards his pain.. Not only to his pain, Zoya is being delusional towards Rashid's love, she has spent days in SM and doesn't she know how ppl are there..?? What wil she do, if tomo Razia kills Dilshad..??
I feel, ppl just wait for Asad to speak something and next moment they start Zoya worshiping, trading posts🤢.. One dimensional thinking just like dear Joya..


Huhhh... I just had to reply here... Still dnt have courage to go through forum and find inspiration of this post but loved your post..😆

Remember, even if I dnt reply, I am in your team..😳😆


Hahah aww Kanka I feel honored you came and replied to my post! 😳

Of course there is, people are just desperately waiting for Asad to do something so they can call him out. That one line of his outweighed everything else in the episode even Zoya's stupid lines.
Zoya is living in some other kinda world I tell you. Apparently she respects the SM people and has developed "bonds" with them. Psh. The thing surprising me is that she was there all the times Shireen has blamed Dilshad and cursed her. She was there when Razia called Dilshad a dayan. So I don't know how she supports this decision. Someone needs to tell her Dilshad is not the only woman Rashid loves. I'm sure if Asad come home tomorrow bringing another woman telling Zoya he was going to marry her too and he loved her just as much, Zoya would not be okay with that.

It's like the guy can't even breath without being lashed out at.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: zara1ksg

I think Zoya is an emotional fool who acts like a goody two shoes ! Asad asking not to involve herself in the matter should have been enough for her to back down ! And understand asad doesn't want to discuss it with her as it's hurting him .. Instead she turns it around and makes him look like the bad guy ! Zoya wants to make the whole world her family but only support RaDil ! Few weeks back didn't she call SM her family ! Did she think about what that family is going through ! As for what she thinks about asad ! No doubt she loves him ! But she will always want to change him and make him see her annoying ways and I'm so happy Asad gave Dilshaad the ultimatum !


That's the thing, the girl always finds a way to turn it around and make HIM seem like the insensitive one.
She doesn't see the consequences this will have long term. She thinks life is a storybook ,you love someone go be with them, okay yeah sure fight for your love, but not 17 years later when other lives are involved.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I totally agree with everything you said ... usually I have a tendency to side with Zoya and be harsh with Asad, but this time I see nothing wrong with the way Asad is handling the situation... I think he's handling the situation pretty appropriately. For those who are complaining about Asad telling Zoya to stay out of it... I see nothing rude about that either, he said it in a quite gentle tone than he normally does. As for Dilshad, words cannot even explain how disappointed I am in her... she was consistently one of my favourite characters but her current actions have ruined my appreciation for her as a mother. Zoya, let's not even talk about her, I'm starting to dislike her more and more with each passing day ... like I said, I use to side with her character a lot, use to feel a lot of sympathy for her ... but now I feel nothing for her... she annoys me more than anything... during today's AsYa's convo I just wanted someone to put a sock in her mouth. I think Asad is the only character left in the show that I feel any sympathy and affection for.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: RandomSquared

dont waste your time...zoya can never be wrong. its not anyones fault, the writers just love to manipulate things in such a way zoya will always end up being mahaan even know at times she is so immature and bratty. when her time comes to face reality, she will also be mahaan then even tho its not realistic at all.

its not that i dont like zoya. i think there have been many times she has proven her love for asad, mainly with legalizing the zoyaan marriage to help nikhat because it was important to asad. that indeed was a great sacrifice

but i just feel when it comes to asad and his childhood and his relationship with his father, zoya has not been able to understand the depth of asad's pain and trauma. its mainly bc they are such different people. zoya i feel would forgive gaffur in a second for his crimes, whereas asad can never truly forgive rashid for his. i mean asad at one point held his father at gun point so one can imagine how much hate he has for rashid..that doesn't just go away bc he said sorry.

its just that in this situation zoya has been too insensitive to asad in her efforts to defend dilshad. i wish she had been more of a shoulder to cry on for asad at least for that DAY but she was ready to lecture him from the second rashid left. i just feel like zoya doesn't feel bad for asad's situation which is strange because one would think his pain would strike her the most considering how much she loves him

anyway this situation isnt about zoya so i dont want to make THIS about her also. everything cant always be about her. this is between rashid dilshad and asad.

and asad has had his large share of times when he was a jerk but this is not one of them. poor guy this didn't want to hear zoya lecture him about this.


I don't know what it is with the writers trying to make Zoya look like she's a saint no matter what. The funny thing is, I was so in love with Zoya in the beginning. She was my favorite character and I just loved everything about her, but I feel like she's not that same Zoya anymore. I don't know if it's just me but I feel she's gotten worse now, more immature and insensitive.
What Zoya did for Asad and his family was indeed great, but then what's the point if you're going to keep throwing it in their faces? In Asad's face and put all the blame on him? It lessens the value of that sacrifice.

Both are such opposites, Zoya has been so indifferent to Asad's pain. But Asad has felt Zoya's from day one. The day she told him about her father, he had tears in his eyes. Because he could feel every bit of what she was feeling.
I don't think Zoya will forgive Ghafoor, and honestly I'm waiting for the reveal of the woman in the factory being Zoya's mom. Because I know all her feelings will diminish for Rashid and she'll expect everyone to side with her.
There were other ways to go about the situation. She didn't have to try to preach to him right there. She could have consoled him, hugged him, or just sat with him. You don't always needs words to tell someone you are there for them. To give someone assurance. And I definitely did not like her tone with Asad. I have yet to get the feeling that Zoya feels bad for Asad. She has never felt bad. When the wishlist stuff was going on. I thought it was the most insensitive thing in the world at how she reacted. When she found out he helped his mom stitch clothes and missed school because he worked so much, and he didn't have any friends. She laughed at all that, which was appalling. Laughed. Or she gave herself praise for whatever stupid reason. She didn't even admire him for all that he had been through yet where he was today, or feel bad that he didn't experience his childhood the way he should have. I will never forget that.
Isn't it funny though, the situation isn't about Zoya but Rashid, Dilshad and Asad, yet somehow it still ends up being about Zoya! Because she just has to open her mouth when she shouldn't, or because Asad says one thing to her that is so "rude" and blah blah.
Asad deserves at least one person to share his pain with, and it's a shame it can't be the woman he's in love with.

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