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Posted: 11 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: anushreemishra



Wow now that was a brilliant explanation and i think you almost convinced me.
exactly if asya will be maligned for their actions then i won't blame the society for it and it will asya's own fault and as long as they recognize it i will be fine by it
About love and commitment well i believe that since they promised to put up the facade for nikhat and then ayaan's sake then they better stick to it properly and if they can't do it then just tell everyone,why such indecisiveness?I just find both of them very fickleminded right now...They can't stay away and neither are they doing anything to correct their situations.They rely on their muqadar way too much and that is why i don't have any symapathies for them coz they are paying for their deeds so why cry and crib so much?



'Paying for their deeds'-I would say suffering because of a few poor decisions but they are human beings, my dear.

Looking forward to Next week's episodes...should be very dramatic!

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Posted: 11 years ago
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This topic has flooded the forum . been reading adding my two cents but it still remains stagnant . when said the show had a twist .. they meant business. Everything we see now contradicts to the characters and what they stand for .Repeating the topics becomes tiresome for the readers . we all know this drama is way beyond what the show is about . the mistake .. pretend etc could have been resolved immediately because of the time we live in and the capability of the characters . but what about those who are being controlled by the norms of society and has to accept . . this has been going for generations and needs to be stopped .Now I am talking about Women and how they becomes just mere objects to society . Parents never puts a charge on their children for performing their duties towards them ..then why should society place a charge on parents .daughters are treated like the petals of a rose in their parents home but after all the years of sacrificing and begging god to always let them be happy ..as per society you have to give up all and send them off with a man whom they don't want to be with . Rape !!. brings attention when mention . do we really understand it's concept . Many will say yes .. a man forcing himself on a without her consent ..correct !!.but when a woman has to give herself to a man because she signed a legal document.. a man whom she does not want to be with .what do we call that .. consensual sex ..right. !!...wrong...its Legal rape. .this has to be stopped... but how ... because many don't want to accept change ..we see it right here . the laws of society surpassed the laws and wishes of parents .the suicide attempt .. the sacrifices ...the greed ..the abuse...the evil intentions.. are put before us . all is happening and cannot be stopped because of society .Women needs to be a part of society with the option to be able to have a say in the decisions made about their future. and still up keep to their religious traditions .. I do hope the coming episodes although may be dramatic at least make a little change to fulfill the hopes and brighten the future for women . .I want to share a vm with you it has nothing to do with the show but.. very sentimental ...the song !! http://youtu.be/1r7OTi6uqEc . Tell me where was society during these yrs ... why should a cost be laid out by them to parents .???
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Posted: 11 years ago
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So the debate on conventionality of AsYa's act is still on? Swell! (Yeah,I still use the word. Don't judge me!)
So what if Zoya hugged Asad while she's still married to Ayaan? She can hug Asad all she wants, She's a free American citizen(power to freedom!) Bring back Rajveer so she can flirt with him too, plus occasional Zoyaan scenes wouldn't hurt. The more the merrier after all😉

...and that's been my take on the whole decorum debate. I haven't gone in the realistic dynamics of the situation cause well the situation isn't real.

BUT if I was to consider this situation real and assume that person X liked person Z( See what I did there? lol) But Person Z got (or atleast she thought she got) married to person X's younger brother, person Y, should person X and person Z still go all touchy-wouchy?
Speaking from a Muslim prospective ( Since QH is a Muslim show and we can't avoid that fact for long) Person Z should stay as far away as possible from person X because not only is Z married to Y . X and Z w are not married and No don't tell me they're wedded in their hearts because that's not how things role in a Muslim society, (remember QH is a muslim show?) So you gotta say Qabool Hai before you can go all hanky panky-no exceptions! But since that rule was never followed I don't see why they would follow it now.
Moving on, the Zamana's bad with people like Haseena Bi and a status conscious Qazi, and X & Z live in the same world, why is sala their character considered dheela if they show a tinsy bit of immorality? Well, Everyone hates Haseena Bi and oh that poor poor Qazi lol ( how people hate him!) Considering the norm X and Z should be ok with haters too but X and Z are not (Their followers are not) they still want to be considered pure. Well, tough luck!
Plus the whole "Everyone else is bad, so we can be bad too logic is just juvenile. Oh everyone else is smoking that nasty smelling weed, let me do that too (seriously?)

So now what should person Z do if she got married to person Y instead of X, The time you're wasting crying to your lover, use it well and apply for a divorce. Please.

I guess I covered it all, or did I? I don't know but in a jest, If I knew a woman who married the younger brother and had an affair with the older one, I would most probably judge her or the brothers, or the family. (Even though I shouldn't,Man I'm bad.) but somethings just don't go well with our 6th sense, our morality. It's natural and since the whole debate is about Qabool hai and there's nothing natural about the show, I say go Asya! hug it out lol 😆

No hard feelings!😎



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Posted: 11 years ago
#64
Who the hell said it was indecent or adultery? :|
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nikita_Smith

So Asad and Zoya hugging each other publicly at Haseena Bi's house and at SM is being termed as 'indecency' and 'adultery'.

Am sorry but I beg to differ.

A greater "indecency" for me would have been if Asad and Zoya had given up on their love and accepted this fake nikaah as real marriage.

And to which society should they hold high moral grounds for-The one of which those Qazis are the part who despite of clearly looking at the lack of consent from the Bride and Groom, did not declare the nikaah invalid, so that their honour as Religious Leaders stays intact!

The one of which someone like Haseena is a part -who herself is spineless, greedy and characterless but points fingers at innocent people at the drop of the hat.

The one of which Gaffoor, Rashid and Raziya are part(Like Lavita mentioned in her comments)

Or for those who believe that a Marriage is a Marriage, no matter in what circumstances it has taken place, no matter if it has been forced, no matter if the bride wants freedom from this knot and wants to reunite with her lover, no matter if the groom too wants to reunite with his beloved.

Asad and Zoya lived under the same roof as an engaged couple for so many days but never did they cross the line. Do they deserve to be called indecent simply because in the moments in which they direly needed each other, they did not abandon each other?

My answer would be NO.

Asad and Zoya hugging each other publicly is not adultery. They are wedded to each other in their hearts

"Mere dil par sirf ek naam likha hai-Asad Ahmed Khan"

"Mere muqqadar mein sirf ek naam likha hai -Zoya Farooqui"

Lord would bless them looking at their devotion towards each other. They are fulfilling the wedding vows-

" To have and to hold, from this day onwards, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness or in health, to
love and to cherish 'till death do us
part. And hereto I pledge you my
faithfulness "

What is of greater value-The sanctity of a 'Kagazi Nikaah'(as Raziya very rightly call it yesterday) or The Sanctity of a Spiritual Nikaah(The one which now binds Asad and Zoya together, forever and ever)



It is completely different and no one questions you even if you stayed together in four walls and yet engaged. Who cares what you do with your lover as long as she is un married .

Yes it makes things more vulgar and indecent if you do express your feelings towards towards your lover physically in front of others after you got married for whatever so reasons.

That's the line of discipline I can say, which also is important for every individual to abide until they are in a relationship. Even if in this case ayaan himself is taking zoya to his brother, can't these two so called lovers be in their limits to finish things up for what they have sacrificed temp for their family.

Instead by doing such actions they are spoiling everything whatever they did.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: GoldenPanda.

Who the hell said it was indecent or adultery? :|


It is adultery and indecent and there is no doubt a bit
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Posted: 11 years ago
#67
OMG !! Did I get held back in 1st grade for the past 100yrs
Please do tell .
I feel like a fatal disease is following me please in the near future if you stress on the words HUG to much u will walking in Asad's shoes for a moment like
and u will want the world to go away .
trust me .
Edited by VashH - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#68
Kudos to you for an wonderful post👏
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Posted: 11 years ago
#69

Originally posted by: bheegi

i am surprised that we still have to keep defending AsYa


Great job Nikita

As Asad said- agar aapne vaada kiya hota tho khuda kasam main aapko kabhie thodne ke liye nahin kehta

That sums it up

This nikaah is a sham, not a vaada but a haadsa. The day Ayaan or Zoya want to make it into a Vaada, both Asad and Zoya will back off. They are very righteous people



Exactly Di!

Asad and Zoya needed each others emotional support, each others reassurance in a heartbreaking breaking and depressing situation like this...their hugs are nothing but just that...reassurances!

Asad's reassurance to Zoya that he would always be there for her...Zoya's reassurance to Asad that she still wants to marry him and him alone!


To be there for each other is not adultery or indecency-it's love!
Edited by Nikita_Smith - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: VashH

This topic has flooded the forum . been reading adding my two cents but it still remains stagnant . when said the show had a twist .. they meant business. Everything we see now contradicts to the characters and what they stand for .Repeating the topics becomes tiresome for the readers . we all know this drama is way beyond what the show is about . the mistake .. pretend etc could have been resolved immediately because of the time we live in and the capability of the characters . but what about those who are being controlled by the norms of society and has to accept . . this has been going for generations and needs to be stopped .Now I am talking about Women and how they becomes just mere objects to society . Parents never puts a charge on their children for performing their duties towards them ..then why should society place a charge on parents .daughters are treated like the petals of a rose in their parents home but after all the years of sacrificing and begging god to always let them be happy ..as per society you have to give up all and send them off with a man whom they don't want to be with . Rape !!. brings attention when mention . do we really understand it's concept . Many will say yes .. a man forcing himself on a without her consent ..correct !!.but when a woman has to give herself to a man because she signed a legal document.. a man whom she does not want to be with .what do we call that .. consensual sex ..right. !!...wrong...its Legal rape. .this has to be stopped... but how ... because many don't want to accept change ..we see it right here . the laws of society surpassed the laws and wishes of parents .the suicide attempt .. the sacrifices ...the greed ..the abuse...the evil intentions.. are put before us . all is happening and cannot be stopped because of society .Women needs to be a part of society with the option to be able to have a say in the decisions made about their future. and still up keep to their religious traditions .. I do hope the coming episodes although may be dramatic at least make a little change to fulfill the hopes and brighten the future for women . .I want to share a vm with you it has nothing to do with the show but.. very sentimental ...the song !! http://youtu.be/1r7OTi6uqEc . Tell me where was society during these yrs ... why should a cost be laid out by them to parents .???


👏👏 Yes the only reason progress for women in India is slow up-to now is due to the fact that many still treat them has door mats or commodities. There are many societies who trade the daughters for other materialistic things.

The educated women of India are far ahead and doing extremely well in Life . This message of treating gals equally and educating and exposing them to today's world has yet to reach many.

This is where television and serials play a very important role and should be educational in showing women in a different and more advanced light.

I believe there is another post on the Forum stating the indecency of Asya . I believe the TM of that post has also commented here. There were 18 pages of the same message portrayed here but nothing changes the TM's mind and this is due to years and years of brainwashing done by family and society in regards to what society will say.

I repeat what i had written on another post.

SOCIETY DOES NOT FEED YOU WHEN YOU ARE HUNGRY
SOCIETY DOES NOT CLOTHE YOU WHEN YOU ARE NAKED
SOCIETY DOES NOT SHELTER YOU WHEN YOU ARE HOMELESS...
Edited by sheilasandhu - 11 years ago

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