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Posted: 11 years ago
#31
Asad and Zoe are both flawed and have insecurities, when they love, it's for keeps. The self takes a back seat when it comes to their love and family. I am talking about KV as a family, and Zoe being part of it.

Love your post bheegi. 🤗

I actually envy this kind love, blessed are those who have it. It is not common, and world today is all about hisaab kitab, accounting in love, cynical, and too practical, which extends to family and love relations too.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@ Rosh no i don't think that zoya is a bechari but i do feel that she was wronged to have been forced into that nikaah but she was more wrong to accept it but again she was under the wrong impression...my point when the brothers decided that she should stay in SM for 7 days why not consult her...
IMO only humeira is the who is in this situation because of no fault of hers...
zoya did a mistake and i wish that she would learn from it but the point is she was wronged even more...she committed a fault but her punishment wasn't fair and no i do blame asad as much as zoya nd infact sometimes maybe even more because at the end of the day he chose nikhat over zoya period and i would be satisfied only if one day she choses zoya over that paagalkhana and he should be proud about that till then i am sorry but he will always be at fault for me

i know we will not agree here so lets just agree to disagree😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: niki_12

Completely agree with you! Frankly speaking I give Gul a lot of credit for making this so complex with so many layers. On the surface we see a weak girl who in the past would have spoken her mind and left. But then we realize this is not about what she wants and she knows this is not what Asad wants either. Somewhere she agrees a mistake has happened and this is what had to be done. Then there is an additional factor of Asad "making" her do this. She said how Asad has become her zindagi her duniya. There is something about him reassuring her that she has faith in. She has faith in their love.

Having said that, do I see Zoya starting to believe what Badi Bi is saying? Absolutely not! And we can tell that by the precap where she approaches Humera. It is really a Zoya story and Zoya will fight all the norms and break all stereotypes.

She loves Asad too much to fall for destiny. And she will never let "her" so called destiny be the reason for heart break for Humera.

I love you for this Niki. This is exactly what I feel will happen. badi Bi's words are scaring all of us and that's Gul's intention too but in the end, Zoya will fight everyone for one man...like she did after Ajmer

Even when the whole world is forcing her to become Ayaan's wife her heart belongs to Asad. Tomorrow when the purity for her love for Asad is questioned I don't expect Zoya to be quiet or even AsYa for that matter. When everyone points fingers at their love, AsYa will defend it and this is where Zoya's self respect comes in. The self respect for herself and her love for which she will fight. Asad has been accused a lot but I am sure he will be praised when he fights for Zoya's respect and for their love.

Like you have pointed out this scenario is a parallel to Asad post SR. Zoya sacrificed her father to save Asad's self respect. Same way, Asad will help Zoya out of this trap and when people point fingers at her IMO he will be her shield/savior as usual.

Irony will be that Zoya wanted her father to wipe her tears but the real tears Raziya gives her only Asad will wipe.

For Zoya, Asad's assurance is enough for her to melt into his arms. She knows Asad is her protector and he is. The minute a thorn hurt Zoya the next moment Asad was there to relieve her from her pain and the very next moment Zoya melted. That is why this love story is beautiful! 😳

absolutely agree Niki...very well said👏


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: bheegi


yes narges, she even came back after the whole SR fiasco. Words like self respect don't count for her when it comes to her relationship with asad...it's not something we can all relate to but it does happen in great love stories- almost like dedication to God. Isn't that what sufism is all about?


True Di... like I said, some of us, or rather most of us would not have tolerated that slap. But to understand the acceptance of that feeling, one has to experience and undergo to the level of such kind of dedication and trance of and in love. Some feelings go way beyond love...your reference to Sufism is a beautiful example.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: anushreemishra

i agree Rosh that packing and leaving isn't a solution but believe me if i was in this situation i would and it doesn't mean that i didn't love my man...i am all for you have to make certain compromises in all relationships but there is a somewhere where i draw the line and this fake nikaah would be it...the slap was nothing infront of this IMO that was just physical pain this was way deeper and everything and anything isn't fair in love IMO.
Now coming to zoya i can understand why she will never leave asad and since its fiction i don't mind...and as you said that asad learned from the slap fiasco but what has he learnt here?yes he is sorry that he hurt her but does he feel how horribly he treated her...i am sorry but she was treated in a very apalling way and when will zoya learn it wasn't just about hurting her feeling but about hurting her self respect...i am not against them going back together but just that IMO they haven't learned the gravity of the situation yet and that is disappointing and IMO their patchup was too thanda😕


Anushree, their love story has almost a Krishna-Radha or Sufi stature to it (of course Asya are not God but their dedication to each other is what a bhakt has to his God)...that's why most of us can't relate to it in real life. Listen to the kalma song...that defines their love for each other


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Shayari-


Bheegs going off of what u said.. yes gravity of situations are much worse

But the concept is the same

And in real life .. its not about making a deal about an issue and divorcing or quitting .. its about tryings to resolve the situations not giving up. If u truly love someone a slap shouldnt be the thing that makes you leave that person. The context matters the occurance matters ..

Conflict resolution is what makes relationships strong.

asad learnt from thaf slap that he shouldnt raise his hands on someone like that. He learnt from the times he junped to conclusions that he shouldnt do that.. every situation is a learning experience is what im tryibg to say.

Packing bags and leaving is a sign of cowardice.



Bang on!!! In reality we all give our best to make most of the situations work. AsYa journey has been beautiful so far. They are something else together. Whatever contrived situations the characters are going through at this point, does not change what I perceive of them. The track is beyond recognition or any semblance of sensibility. And yet when bheegi posts this, I feel for AsYa.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: anushreemishra

@ Rosh no i don't think that zoya is a bechari but i do feel that she was wronged to have been forced into that nikaah but she was more wrong to accept it but again she was under the wrong impression...my point when the brothers decided that she should stay in SM for 7 days why not consult her...

IMO only humeira is the who is in this situation because of no fault of hers...
zoya did a mistake and i wish that she would learn from it but the point is she was wronged even more...she committed a fault but her punishment wasn't fair and no i do blame asad as much as zoya nd infact sometimes maybe even more because at the end of the day he chose nikhat over zoya period and i would be satisfied only if one day she choses zoya over that paagalkhana and he should be proud about that till then i am sorry but he will always be at fault for me

i know we will not agree here so lets just agree to disagree😆


Yhhh but who was forcing her lol no one was grabbing her hand and forcing her signature.

What force?

And he didnt choose nikhay over zoyam

He chose his sisters happiness over his own happiness.

How can we forget this guy is bhurting too?

And asad is the one paining remembering zoya while zoya js happily maburting it up with aayan so what pain is she feeling?
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Posted: 11 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: anushreemishra

Di i get it but didn't even you want asad going all the way to make it upto zoya😕i mean it was just a hug and some looks itna to zoya ne asad ko rajveer incident ke baad karke mana liya tha..
Yes i get that he considers zoya a part of him nd zoya too but IMO this does not justify what happened and IMO both zoya nd asad haven't understand the gravity of the situation and i think they never will so my point how will they learn from this when everything will be fine after just a hug😕i just wish they had concentrated a little more on develping asya after that incident it was big but CVs treated it like nothing...
i will give an example my parents mean everything to me and i don't believe in god but see them as my everything but once they say no to me for something i never go back to them asking for that but yes after sometime i just get it well coz they are my parents the thing is i love them like anything but still i do have my self respect and they do consider myself a part of me but does that give them a right to something like that to me no IMO and if i feel this that doesn't mean i love my parents its just that somethings are wrong even in love😕


Absolutely agree Anu...both made a mistake and as Rosh said, she could have said NO to signing the papers. They both sacrificed, made a mistake and are now paying heavily for it
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: niki_12

Completely agree with you! Frankly speaking I give Gul a lot of credit for making this so complex with so many layers. On the surface we see a weak girl who in the past would have spoken her mind and left. But then we realize this is not about what she wants and she knows this is not what Asad wants either. Somewhere she agrees a mistake has happened and this is what had to be done. Then there is an additional factor of Asad "making" her do this. She said how Asad has become her zindagi her duniya. There is something about him reassuring her that she has faith in. She has faith in their love.

Having said that, do I see Zoya starting to believe what Badi Bi is saying? Absolutely not! And we can tell that by the precap where she approaches Humera. It is really a Zoya story and Zoya will fight all the norms and break all stereotypes.

She loves Asad too much to fall for destiny. And she will never let "her" so called destiny be the reason for heart break for Humera.

Even when the whole world is forcing her to become Ayaan's wife her heart belongs to Asad. Tomorrow when the purity for her love for Asad is questioned I don't expect Zoya to be quiet or even AsYa for that matter. When everyone points fingers at their love, AsYa will defend it and this is where Zoya's self respect comes in. The self respect for herself and her love for which she will fight. Asad has been accused a lot but I am sure he will be praised when he fights for Zoya's respect and for their love.

Like you have pointed out this scenario is a parallel to Asad post SR. Zoya sacrificed her father to save Asad's self respect. Same way, Asad will help Zoya out of this trap and when people point fingers at her IMO he will be her shield/savior as usual.

Irony will be that Zoya wanted her father to wipe her tears but the real tears Raziya gives her only Asad will wipe.

For Zoya, Asad's assurance is enough for her to melt into his arms. She knows Asad is her protector and he is. The minute a thorn hurt Zoya the next moment Asad was there to relieve her from her pain and the very next moment Zoya melted. That is why this love story is beautiful! 😳




Your POV on this is just so perfect, so much better than what QH Cv's probably ever thought of.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: _vineeta_

Hi Sangeeta I did like the post n get what you are trying to say.


I believe there is nothing wrong in trusting and supporting man she loves to death but giving someone power to control her makes her weak. And that's when we hear stong independent girls committing suicides or losing faith in themselves..

I feel what is wrong in whole projection is contradiction to the saying, love should make you strong not weak..

And in case of Zoya and Asad both actually, since they fell in love they lost their individuality, Asad before would never have done what he did with Najma when agreed easily to this marriage, and Zoya of before would have said something to Haseena or Razi as she did when that woman made a statement on jean clad Zoya at prayer.

Wonder what will get those characteristics back in them, hope it's not the hatred or anger for each other:(


I don't think Asya can ever hate each other at this stage in their lives. The mistake they made was putting other's interests before their own relationship and that's what they are paying for.

Yes, they have definitely lost a lot of individuality and instead of U, Me and hum...they have just adopted the hum part of their relationship. Their love story is indeed unique and not one that we see in day to day lives. But I do know that if any third person threatens the self respect of one of them, they will defend each other like anything. For e.g. when Razia points fingers at Zoya, Asad will come charging in her defense


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