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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Shayari-

Love ur post as always bheegs!

Zoya has always been the one to stamd up for anything and anyone but when it comes to just her and asad she has easily given in. She does stand up in yelling and giving him and ear full but for zoya shefeels the only person she can say is hers is asad and is easily able to forgive him and give into him probably out of fear of loosing him. She does love him to much to stand up for herself against him.

But this being said if we are referring to why she easily gave into asad and not stand up for herself over this whole nikaah thing.. its because she listens to asad and feels like he has a right over her at the end of the day.. whatever she did with signing the papers was her own free will and has no one to blame but herself for her situation.

She just considers asads words to much to ignore. And everyone does thay with the people thy love even in real life. Look at ur own parents. U love them so much that u may hate them for some decisions they enforce on you and u have every right to say no to them but u dont because you care to much of their word.

Same her with zoya. asad is literslly her entire world. She feels she has no one to say is hers except him. So that persons words and decisions mean the world to you on occasion. Doesnt mean you dont have self respect. It just means your love is much greater and inportant and if u genuinly loved then that love wont be away from you for to long.


Good to see you come out of hibernation Rosh😃 Yeah, Zoya's relationship with Asad is indeed very all encompassing...at this point in their relationship, they are like one unit and if one makes a mistake, the other suffers and vice versa so separating them or expecting them to leave one another because of conflicts is not possible
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Posted: 11 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: MisHumptyDumpty

Its sad but yes she herself said I m nad at u but then truth remains I can't stay mad at u any longer

Sad cause even if he sells her she will forgive him n we for the sake ofddialogues n hugs as such will melt n want n wish them to be together n want them married but failing to understand the graveness of the situation. :/ :/


Ankie...she will do anything for him if she feels that's where his happiness lies. As a woman, you and I wouldn't be able to relate to it but one has to think of it from her character's POV
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Posted: 11 years ago
#13

Originally posted by: bheegi


The only difference is the gravity of the situations here are much more pronounced than ones we face in our lives...

I think it all stems down to Mangalpur

Mangalpur made Asad realize what she means to him and it made her realize that he will go to any extent to be there for her when she needs him...that's why all the other incidents (even though big like slap etc) are forgiven and forgotten when they are together


Bheegs going off of what u said.. yes gravity of situations are much worse

But the concept is the same

And in real life .. its not about making a deal about an issue and divorcing or quitting .. its about tryings to resolve the situations not giving up. If u truly love someone a slap shouldnt be the thing that makes you leave that person. The context matters the occurance matters ..

Conflict resolution is what makes relationships strong.

asad learnt from thaf slap that he shouldnt raise his hands on someone like that. He learnt from the times he junped to conclusions that he shouldnt do that.. every situation is a learning experience is what im tryibg to say.

Packing bags and leaving is a sign of cowardice.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: anushreemishra

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thanku for making this post di we will get to see lot of POV here...
I agree di zoya is a independent woman for whom self respect is very important but yes when it comes to asad all her ideologies,her rationality just goes out the window because she is madly in love with asad but here i am not blaming zoya forgiving asad but how this whole forgiveness and patch up was dealt with😕
Di i get it that zoya has been humiliated a lot many times but she has always forgiven asad and had a girl like zoya been in that situation she would have left asad a long time ago but we all know its fiction and asya are the end game so yes i am not against zoya returning to asad all i want is for asad and zoya to realize the gravity of the situation so that this never happens again it is like everytime asad scholds zoya nd he is forgiven nd zoya does nothing well will they learn...also i am disappointed the way everything was patched between asad nd zoya so soon..in the slap fiasco asad bringing coffee for zoya nd saying sorry was a big deal nd then after teh airport engagement he went all the way to get her back but this time just a hug and some looks😕a little thanda IMO...asya are at that point in their relationship when there should have been more intensity and i don't mean physical one...
copy pasted my response from faasle thread😆


Yeah,...even I am just replying on this thread😃

As I said above, AsYa's relationship has come a long way and now they are in fact one unit. They don't need long conversations or long apologies. That's why, as soon as he showed up and cared for her wound, she just melted. After the slap incident, they were still two individuals but that's not the case any longer.

That's why Asad asked her to sacrifice for Nikhat's sake because he considers her a part of him and she did it just for him for the same reason (even though she was angry)
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: bheegi


Good to see you come out of hibernation Rosh😃 Yeah, Zoya's relationship with Asad is indeed very all encompassing...at this point in their relationship, they are like one unit and if one makes a mistake, the other suffers and vice versa so separating them or expecting them to leave one another because of conflicts is not possible


Not just that it isnt possible..

Its that it shows cowardice. running from situations rather than tackling them and facing them and seeing through them together. Lifes every test in relationships ans the ability to overcome them or not are the things that make ur relationship or break it.

And im always ready to come out of hibernation for ur ppsts. 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Completely agree with you! Frankly speaking I give Gul a lot of credit for making this so complex with so many layers. On the surface we see a weak girl who in the past would have spoken her mind and left. But then we realize this is not about what she wants and she knows this is not what Asad wants either. Somewhere she agrees a mistake has happened and this is what had to be done. Then there is an additional factor of Asad "making" her do this. She said how Asad has become her zindagi her duniya. There is something about him reassuring her that she has faith in. She has faith in their love.
Having said that, do I see Zoya starting to believe what Badi Bi is saying? Absolutely not! And we can tell that by the precap where she approaches Humera. It is really a Zoya story and Zoya will fight all the norms and break all stereotypes.

She loves Asad too much to fall for destiny. And she will never let "her" so called destiny be the reason for heart break for Humera.

Even when the whole world is forcing her to become Ayaan's wife her heart belongs to Asad. Tomorrow when the purity for her love for Asad is questioned I don't expect Zoya to be quiet or even AsYa for that matter. When everyone points fingers at their love, AsYa will defend it and this is where Zoya's self respect comes in. The self respect for herself and her love for which she will fight. Asad has been accused a lot but I am sure he will be praised when he fights for Zoya's respect and for their love.

Like you have pointed out this scenario is a parallel to Asad post SR. Zoya sacrificed her father to save Asad's self respect. Same way, Asad will help Zoya out of this trap and when people point fingers at her IMO he will be her shield/savior as usual.

Irony will be that Zoya wanted her father to wipe her tears but the real tears Raziya gives her only Asad will wipe.

For Zoya, Asad's assurance is enough for her to melt into his arms. She knows Asad is her protector and he is. The minute a thorn hurt Zoya the next moment Asad was there to relieve her from her pain and the very next moment Zoya melted. That is why this love story is beautiful! 😳


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Shayari-


Bheegs going off of what u said.. yes gravity of situations are much worse

But the concept is the same

And in real life .. its not about making a deal about an issue and divorcing or quitting .. its about tryings to resolve the situations not giving up. If u truly love someone a slap shouldnt be the thing that makes you leave that person. The context matters the occurance matters ..

Conflict resolution is what makes relationships strong.

asad learnt from thaf slap that he shouldnt raise his hands on someone like that. He learnt from the times he junped to conclusions that he shouldnt do that.. every situation is a learning experience is what im tryibg to say.

Packing bags and leaving is a sign of cowardice.

i agree Rosh that packing and leaving isn't a solution but believe me if i was in this situation i would and it doesn't mean that i didn't love my man...i am all for you have to make certain compromises in all relationships but there is a somewhere where i draw the line and this fake nikaah would be it...the slap was nothing infront of this IMO that was just physical pain this was way deeper and everything and anything isn't fair in love IMO.
Now coming to zoya i can understand why she will never leave asad and since its fiction i don't mind...and as you said that asad learned from the slap fiasco but what has he learnt here?yes he is sorry that he hurt her but does he feel how horribly he treated her...i am sorry but she was treated in a very apalling way and when will zoya learn it wasn't just about hurting her feeling but about hurting her self respect...i am not against them going back together but just that IMO they haven't learned the gravity of the situation yet and that is disappointing and IMO their patchup was too thanda😕
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: anushreemishra

i agree Rosh that packing and leaving isn't a solution but believe me if i was in this situation i would and it doesn't mean that i didn't love my man...i am all for you have to make certain compromises in all relationships but there is a somewhere where i draw the line and this fake nikaah would be it...the slap was nothing infront of this IMO that was just physical pain this was way deeper and everything and anything isn't fair in love IMO.
Now coming to zoya i can understand why she will never leave asad and since its fiction i don't mind...and as you said that asad learned from the slap fiasco but what has he learnt here?yes he is sorry that he hurt her but does he feel how horribly he treated her...i am sorry but she was treated in a very apalling way and when will zoya learn it wasn't just about hurting her feeling but about hurting her self respect...i am not against them going back together but just that IMO they haven't learned the gravity of the situation yet and that is disappointing and IMO their patchup was too thanda😕


Horribly treated how anu?

Is zoya not her own person? If she felt that against it and hated it that much she had every right to say screw u and leave.

Its her own fault the situation she is in.

And i dont think their patchup was thanda i think thats perspective.

But zoe has no one to blame but hserself for her position.
She just considers asad and hisbwords to much for her to go against. And thats her own problem too.

No one did any harm to her. She did harm to herself. She took it all upon herself to be superwoman the day lf her nikah. And she took it upon herself to listen to asas and sign those papera. Asad simply requested .. and she gave in herself.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: bheegi


Yeah,...even I am just replying on this thread😃

As I said above, AsYa's relationship has come a long way and now they are in fact one unit. They don't need long conversations or long apologies. That's why, as soon as he showed up and cared for her wound, she just melted. After the slap incident, they were still two individuals but that's not the case any longer.

That's why Asad asked her to sacrifice for Nikhat's sake because he considers her a part of him and she did it just for him for the same reason (even though she was angry)

Di i get it but didn't even you want asad going all the way to make it upto zoya😕i mean it was just a hug and some looks itna to zoya ne asad ko rajveer incident ke baad karke mana liya tha..
Yes i get that he considers zoya a part of him nd zoya too but IMO this does not justify what happened and IMO both zoya nd asad haven't understand the gravity of the situation and i think they never will so my point how will they learn from this when everything will be fine after just a hug😕i just wish they had concentrated a little more on develping asya after that incident it was big but CVs treated it like nothing...
i will give an example my parents mean everything to me and i don't believe in god but see them as my everything but once they say no to me for something i never go back to them asking for that but yes after sometime i just get it well coz they are my parents the thing is i love them like anything but still i do have my self respect and they do consider myself a part of me but does that give them a right to something like that to me no IMO and if i feel this that doesn't mean i love my parents its just that somethings are wrong even in love😕

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Shayari-


Horribly treated how anu?

Is zoya not her own person? If she felt that against it and hated it that much she had every right to say screw u and leave.

Its her own fault the situation she is in.

And i dont think their patchup was thanda i think thats perspective.

But zoe has no one to blame but hserself for her position.
She just considers asad and hisbwords to much for her to go against. And thats her own problem too.

No one did any harm to her. She did harm to herself. She took it all upon herself to be superwoman the day lf her nikah. And she took it upon herself to listen to asas and sign those papera. Asad simply requested .. and she gave in herself.

Rosh i get it zoya was at fault for not telling asad for running away from her nikaah for but she was dragged and forced to do something nd she was emotionally blackmailed yes i do feel she was emotionally blackmailed and if we blame ayaan for emotionally blackmailng asad then why not blame asad fro emotionally blackmailing zoya?the line "kya aapko meri mohabbat pe bharosa hai" was nothing but emotional blackmail IMO
And i am pretty sure ki zoya signed the papers coz she thought ki after signing she will return to KM but asad nd ayaan decided to keep her in SM for 7 days without asking her and that is when she lashed out at asad nd ayaan nd she was right...yes she was wrong in not telling asad nd running away but that doesn't give anyone the right to take such a decision for her even her love😕and well my only problem is how easily they patched up things because sugarcoat all we want but zoya was dragged ad she was treated no human being should😕

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