In Defense Of Zoya - Page 8

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Posted: 12 years ago
#71
Agree.
Even I was surprised with the kind of bashing zoya is receiving. But right from day one, we all know that she is immature.
Some people think and then act.
Some people act and then think.
But Zoya just does it and doesn't think before or after. That's Zoya for you.
She is in a Nikaah Nikaah mode right now.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#72

Originally posted by: notagain



How does Zoe assume the otherwise for Najma, the part where Najran(now we have a pair name already? ) stay on their own, she definitely realizes the difference between Dilshaad and Haseena.

I agree in reality folks overlook and adjust in all families, love or arranged marriage does not matter, but then it is within limits. I understand Haseena is an extreme character, and that skews this whole track a lot. It's easier to rationalize fiction, I would never wish a Haseena on anybody in reality, even for an enemy.


About NajRan...read in some thread so using it...😆
Well..she may not be assuming...It is I who is assuming that she is assuming...KWIM?😉
But yeah,, based on the episode, she might be going with the whole Immy standing up for Najma pre engagement. Maybe she feels he will keep the borrowed spine for ever.
But in all honesty, she does not have as much experience of Haseena as the folks from SM or even Asad.

Rivs
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Posted: 12 years ago
#73

Originally posted by: rivya



<font color="#cc0099">Yes..we all worry about their impression, but again, do we really take them into consideration when choosing our partner (I am talking love marriages) or wishing to marry them. Most likely we live in our own households and have to deal with the ILs occasionally (once a week or so on). Most families in US or outside of India do not have a "Debra" having to deal with a "Marie" walking in anytime of the day or God forbid living with them.</font>

<font color="#cc0099">In India, due to the culture of joint families, even in love marriages the situation with ILs is weighed. Personal experience, my cousin married her BF despite stong protests from her FIL (in India) who finally agreed. Five years into the marriage, the situation is such that they are working out a amicable solution where her husband can move out of their home and family business so that they can setup their own household. The entire family is going through a very rough time since the FIL is extrmely verbally abusive to both his son and my cousin. Had they been in USA, it would mostly not be such a dire situation since they would be in their own respective homes to begin with.</font>

<font color="#cc0099">SO I guess what I am saying is that though the worry of ILs might be universal, they are much more real in India. And since Zoya has not had to worry about her ILs or witnessed joint family situations,she is oblivious to the situation. Which is fine by me.</font>



Can I just say that even in India the concept of nuclear families is very popular.

Have to admit i haven't lived all my life in India - but personally I wouldn't ask or need anybody's approval or permission to be married. At the end of the day it is we who have to live with the choice of partner so it should be our decision. So, I do understand Zoe's lack of interest in Haseena. However, t was the wrong time to have that conversation
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: delena90



Can I just say that even in India the concept of nuclear families is very popular.

Have to admit i haven't lived all my life in India - but personally I wouldn't ask or need anybody's approval or permission to be married. At the end of the day it is we who have to live with the choice of partner so it should be our decision. So, I do understand Zoe's lack of interest in Haseena. However, t was the wrong time to have that conversation

Yes they are...but only in metros...You go to smaller towns and cities (and not the villages), THey still have joint families.
I grew up in a nuclear family and have never lived with my ILs except for when we are visiting each other...so yeah..
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Posted: 12 years ago
#75

Originally posted by: delena90



The people who think zoya is not good enough for asad i guess are letting their bias against zoya color their view - however my opinion asad himself is not a catch...AT ALL. In the real world asad would be behind bars for being an abusive idiot. However, they are all characters and they are flawed. Asad has always irritated me and continues to do so, zoyas interfering behavior irritates me too and Ayaan and shireen need to boil in a cauldron of hot water.

Beautifully expressed with max clarity 😆. I had to applaud your post though I don't usually post on QH (as I don't watch it) - I just stalk the forums when I work late hours. I agree that Asad is not a catch and neither is Zoya. In real life people would dislike Asad as being too opinionated and an MCP (though a very successful and financially sound one) and of course Zoya would be a charmer but also very nosy / irritating company.
Edited by ruchisahay - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#76

Originally posted by: rivya


<font color="#cc0099">Yes they are...but only in metros...You go to smaller towns and cities (and not the villages), THey still have joint families.</font>
<font color="#cc0099">I grew up in a nuclear family and have never lived with my ILs except for when we are visiting each other...so yeah..</font>



I grew up in a nuclear family too so like you I completely understand the viewpoint of not caring about the ILs.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: delena90


The people who think zoya is not good enough for asad i guess are letting their bias against zoya color their view - however my opinion asad himself is not a catch...AT ALL. In the real world asad would be behind bars for being an abusive idiot. However, they are all characters and they are flawed. Asad has always irritated me and continues to do so, zoyas interfering behavior irritates me too and Ayaan and shireen need to boil in a cauldron of hot water.



This is exactly why they are just characters in a show, and maybe some of it is borrowed from reality.

It does give us an opportunity to discuss real issues in an alternate universe of IF. 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
#78

Originally posted by: bheegi


How can Zoya say that what Haseena bi did was not important? SHE will be Najma's mother in law and it was clear how she treated Nikhat! So can she expect much better for Najma? She can't talk about colour, but she can find something else to taunt her with! Zoya is being very narrow minded! I expected her to think from more angles!

that's the difference between someone from the US and India. Kids who grow up outside India , don't give two hoots about in laws...they care about their partners only. My kids would never care about their in laws as long as they love their partners


I know what you mean coz I myself grew up in the west most of my life. Over here hardly anyone would live with in laws. I am married and so is my sister and we don't live with in laws.

However, as an intelligent girl Zoya can see that in India, in laws (especially ones like Haseena who are trouble makers) cannot be ignored! Zoya herself will be living with her in laws, so she knows Najma will most likely do the same. So she cannot be so dismissive of Haseena's character, coz what she does WILL effect Najma! Not everyone is as lucky as Zoya is when it comes to in laws. But that doesn't mean she can chose to ignore the behaviour of a women like Haseena and state that it is "not important"!

Loving ones partner is all fine and good. But the people you have to spend time with other to your spouse can take a toll on your marriage! To date, I have not seen that Imraan is reliable. Yes he did the "grand gesture" this time, but what about every other time? Personally I think he is a loser of the highest order!

Edited by MrDarcyfan - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#79
Definitely Zoya does not deserve to be bashed, like everyone else she has her own opinion and her own beliefs, and no one should claim she is not fit for Mr Khan and family for that. She might not be entirely right in the bigger POV but from her own characters POV she is justified. BUT I feel like she needs to realize that she is part of a family now, and their ties with others matter to her as well, if her family has just had to face humiliation due to a misunderstanding and has strained relations with closed ones (read:Ayan) and come back hurt and shaken then it is not the right situation to push Najma's wedding right away, she could have thoughtfully given this scenario some time and I am glad that Asad stopped her rant, it was much needed. Nikhat is not related to her, and her first priority is Najma considering that Imran loves Najma too, but even if we justify that she cannot think about Nikhat here, she should think about her own family. Their relations with the children of the other house have been strong, and none of them would want to cause them any pain for their own needs. As such this situation needed some maturity from her side BUT she is human and a pretty impulsive one at that, she needs some growth which shall come with time, but none of this deserves any harsh bashing as such..

QH always has enough explanation and justification for every character, there is always a flip side to every character which makes them all humans. Sab log sab kuch acha karenge, it'll become too perfect to watch, and that is not how life is 😆

Brilliant Post Di 😳
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Posted: 12 years ago
#80
Bheegi ...I was wondering where is your post...must have missed it yesterday... 😒
Even I was quite surprised with the amount of Zoya bashing...
Zoya ...is and was always implusive and will do anything for people she considers her own...and right now she is thinking of only Najma...
Infact when Najma was upset for the last few days, neither her mom nor bro noticed it...it was Zoya who picked on it...it was to Zoya that Najma confided in first...so Zoya is standing up for her...
Let Zoe come to know the true colours of Hasseena and Immi...she will go for their necks

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