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Posted: 12 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: Ankita.M


Maybe that is possible, OR it's possible that Asad and Zoya do not get to meet each other in Ajmer again too πŸ˜• but God knows , the spoilers confuse me.

All I know is that Tanveer's exposure has begun.

zoya's dialogues at cliff tells that she is ready to fight with tanveer for her love...so it will be stupid if they show zoya again walking away even if she sees asad getting ready for marriage with tanveer...
but here in tannu zoya confrontation ...tannu might tell zoya that untill you have some proofs asad not gonna belive you so zoya might hide all this from asad till she finds some solid proofs..
but yes after all symbolism...dialogues in recent episodes,BNHH,mar jaaiyan...this is the point where brief union comes into action...
but lets see...i cant trust CVS.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: Ankita.M


Maybe that is possible, OR it's possible that Asad and Zoya do not get to meet each other in Ajmer again too πŸ˜• but God knows , the spoilers confuse me.

All I know is that Tanveer's exposure has begun.



If that happens then the significance and sanctity of Ajmer will have been ruined and Gul would have shown her religious trp audience that God is not good but indifferent, uncaring and vindictive. That won't go down well. By setting this up in Ajmer she will have to show a reunion there...however brief.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#43
I agree with you completely! The sanctity and piousness of Ajmer would be ruined if AsYa don't come united together. Asad has done nothing wrong and so his prayers have to be answered. He asked for two things, Zoya back and Zoya in his kismat. He got Zoya back (they met in the fort) and now he needs to get Zoya in his kismat by coming back united/married.

Like you have mentioned, I don't think Zoya would put Asad through more misery by not revealing that he is innocent. She knows how disgusting and guilty he feels and it is her turn to revive him, just like his confession revived her. This whole track was for yakeen and this time Asad will trust Zoya-yakeen will come in! That is why Asad won't catch billi red-handed because it is important for him to surrender his trust to Zoya. Now how they go from there is something we have to watch. I still feel they may get married but they have to get united for sure. They may keep the marriage a secret and play billi (to make sure she does not attack Zoya again) or Asad may kick billi out. Billi may then play the father card to send Zoya away from the house or to get revenge. If they play billi then I see the TB article coming true since Asad would announce marriage with her as part of his plan.

For Billi to play the father card means she lost big time because she knows she is playing with fire-Raziya! She has definitely started her downfall too. I have a feeling she will only create seeds of doubt in Zoya's mind. Zoya may start coming close to the truth and Raziya will find out and kill Billi because she knows too much. I don't see Raziya coming down so soon. That will be later when Zoya's mother's truth comes out. So for Raziya to continue her reign, Billi must die. Amarpalli hinted it in her interview also. This will cause Zoya to be mislead again until finally Ayaan will come in the picture and he will find out who Zoya's father is from Humera's musical ball and the picture.

I am like you and I don't see an Ayaan Zoya angle. Ayaan has promised Zoya that he would not hurt Humera and Zoya knows Humera loves Ayaan. Plus, Asad's prayers would go down the gutter if the cv's proceed with this nonsense. I can predict a jealousy track with Maburt in that AsYa are married and Ayaan Zoya become closer friends. Ayaan comes to Zoya, instead of Asad, with his problems especially since they will be Humera related. This will make Asad jealous that his brother is closer to his wife now. Same way, Zoya will bond well with Ayaan making Asad possessive because he would long for Zoya. No way do I think a romantic/love angle coming or being acceptable. I can actually see a great friendship/devar-bhabhi track though.

The Mar Jayaan sequence in my opinion was not part of the show since Zoya was not wearing full sleeves and did not have scars. I vaguely remember Forum 32 making that statement back in the day. What I can see is Asad letting Zoya approach her father and learn more about him. The separation would be in terms of Zoya going through torment in the house and Asad not being able to do anything because Zoya has always longed for her father and if he interferes he may cause damage to Zoya-Gaffur relationship. But eventually it will become too much and Asad will have to step in the house and rescue Zoya.

Why I think an Ajmer nikah is possible is because of Dilshad/Raziya scene the other day and also the law of parallels. One side AsYa will get married in Ajmer and the other side Ayaan will bring a mangal sutra and sindoor for Humera. Both couples will get married in a way.

The mahasangam i believe has AsYa performing with Imran Khan. Although the timing of the episode is poorly planned I am hoping for a nice positive episode. Things have to be okay between AsYa if they are attending someone's wedding. I totally wish to see Zoya going ga-ga over Imran and Asad feeling jealous and trying to keep her away from him.

Sorry this turned out to be longer than expected :)
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Great post Pri...first things first I don't think at this point when he has confessed to Zoya about his feelings and above all has pleaded the almighty to give his Zoya back I don't think it makes sense for him to even committing to Billo even if she plays the pregnancy card...his prayer...his confession... his redemption would be baseless. Him agreeing to marry Billo believing that he forced her would be hypocritical when he himself was appalled at the fact that Mariam was forced to marry her rapist. It doesn't make sense Pri...how can he commit to his bestie knowing that he would never be able to love her...and if at all this pregnancy / marriage track is played it will be a wrong message...

I think I mentioned it in Sangi's post that Gul shouldn't play with religious beliefs... Indians of all ethnicities are religious...if she started this track assuring that the almighty always fulfills your wishes then Asya should be united... For the story to move on in the right direction Asya needs to get married...it's already been 8 months...Billo bringing in the whole abbu scenario makes me believe that Asya has united...she simply cannot use the pregnancy card just for the matter that she would be showing pretty soon...how can she pull that off?
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Posted: 12 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: niki_12

I agree with you completely! The sanctity and piousness of Ajmer would be ruined if AsYa don't come united together. Asad has done nothing wrong and so his prayers have to be answered. He asked for two things, Zoya back and Zoya in his kismat. He got Zoya back (they met in the fort) and now he needs to get Zoya in his kismat by coming back united/married.

Exactly how i see it too!


Like you have mentioned, I don't think Zoya would put Asad through more misery by not revealing that he is innocent. She knows how disgusting and guilty he feels and it is her turn to revive him, just like his confession revived her. This whole track was for yakeen and this time Asad will trust Zoya-yakeen will come in! That is why Asad won't catch billi red-handed because it is important for him to surrender his trust to Zoya. Now how they go from there is something we have to watch. I still feel they may get married but they have to get united for sure. They may keep the marriage a secret and play billi (to make sure she does not attack Zoya again) or Asad may kick billi out. Billi may then play the father card to send Zoya away from the house or to get revenge. If they play billi then I see the TB article coming true since Asad would announce marriage with her as part of his plan.

I can see AsYa putting on a show to trap Billi in her own game. It would finally give Asad a brain and as you mentioned it will highlight the trust angle between Asad and Zoya.


For Billi to play the father card means she lost big time because she knows she is playing with fire-Raziya! She has definitely started her downfall too. I have a feeling she will only create seeds of doubt in Zoya's mind. Zoya may start coming close to the truth and Raziya will find out and kill Billi because she knows too much. I don't see Raziya coming down so soon. That will be later when Zoya's mother's truth comes out. So for Raziya to continue her reign, Billi must die. Amarpalli hinted it in her interview also. This will cause Zoya to be mislead again until finally Ayaan will come in the picture and he will find out who Zoya's father is from Humera's musical ball and the picture.

Exactly! Billi won't play such a dangerous game if she thinks she can get rid of Zoya in a much simpler way. For her to play this card AsYa are in a good place.


I am like you and I don't see an Ayaan Zoya angle. Ayaan has promised Zoya that he would not hurt Humera and Zoya knows Humera loves Ayaan. Plus, Asad's prayers would go down the gutter if the cv's proceed with this nonsense. I can predict a jealousy track with Maburt in that AsYa are married and Ayaan Zoya become closer friends. Ayaan comes to Zoya, instead of Asad, with his problems especially since they will be Humera related. This will make Asad jealous that his brother is closer to his wife now. Same way, Zoya will bond well with Ayaan making Asad possessive because he would long for Zoya. No way do I think a romantic/love angle coming or being acceptable. I can actually see a great friendship/devar-bhabhi track though.

Good to know that there are few who agree with me on the ZoYaan angle. I understand that writers will write what they want but at this point of the story it would be highly convoluted.

The Mar Jayaan sequence in my opinion was not part of the show since Zoya was not wearing full sleeves and did not have scars. I vaguely remember Forum 32 making that statement back in the day. What I can see is Asad letting Zoya approach her father and learn more about him. The separation would be in terms of Zoya going through torment in the house and Asad not being able to do anything because Zoya has always longed for her father and if he interferes he may cause damage to Zoya-Gaffur relationship. But eventually it will become too much and Asad will have to step in the house and rescue Zoya.

I agree with you here completely. Though from the BNHH sequence it does seem like there will another separation but I too believe it will be an act of selflessness on Asad's part - letting Zoya go so that she won't have to choose between her father and him.


Why I think an Ajmer nikah is possible is because of Dilshad/Raziya scene the other day and also the law of parallels. One side AsYa will get married in Ajmer and the other side Ayaan will bring a mangal sutra and sindoor for Humera. Both couples will get married in a way.

I agree Dilshaad's dialogues were foreshadowing the future. The fact that Razia was gloating (as is Billi) tells me that they will fall on their faces very soon.

The mahasangam i believe has AsYa performing with Imran Khan. Although the timing of the episode is poorly planned I am hoping for a nice positive episode. Things have to be okay between AsYa if they are attending someone's wedding. I totally wish to see Zoya going ga-ga over Imran and Asad feeling jealous and trying to keep her away from him.

I am not too happy about the MS because it takes away from QH and we are currently at a crucial and interesting point in the story but I guess Zee has other ideas πŸ˜•

Sorry this turned out to be longer than expected :)

Don't worry...replies can be pages long too...I don't mind! πŸ˜ƒ



My replies are in blue :)
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Posted: 12 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: Rupunzale

Great post Pri...first things first I don't think at this point when he has confessed to Zoya about his feelings and above all has pleaded the almighty to give his Zoya back I don't think it makes sense for him to even committing to Billo even if she plays the pregnancy card...his prayer...his confession... his redemption would be baseless. Him agreeing to marry Billo believing that he forced her would be hypocritical when he himself was appalled at the fact that Mariam was forced to marry her rapist. It doesn't make sense Pri...how can he commit to his bestie knowing that he would never be able to love her...and if at all this pregnancy / marriage track is played it will be a wrong message...

I think I mentioned it in Sangi's post that Gul shouldn't play with religious beliefs... Indians of all ethnicities are religious...if she started this track assuring that the almighty always fulfills your wishes then Asya should be united... For the story to move on in the right direction Asya needs to get married...it's already been 8 months...Billo bringing in the whole abbu scenario makes me believe that Asya has united...she simply cannot use the pregnancy card just for the matter that she would be showing pretty soon...how can she pull that off?



Which is why I don't see the purpose of Tanveer. The cat lost sight of her actual goal and now she's doing what? I mean so she gets rid of Zoe, she already knows Asad isn't going to look in her way. So what is her end game now?

I maintain - WORST. WRITTEN. CHARACTER. EVER!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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i have seen BNHH many times...and it tells AsYa story in perfect way..though i believemar jaaiyan also depicts the same...
in BNHH-first scene where asad tried to touch her dimple...simply depicts that first asad got enchanted by her...that we already know as asad was the one who got mesmerised at dargaah and even after that he was the one who started to feel first.

the same where zoya walks away but smiling...simply means how zoya behaved in show when she was getting attention from asad..she was teasing him and being happy with all this

second scene-where they are standing under shade...both are standing opposite sides..but asad approaches her first..and yes it was asad who approached zoya and walked towards her...same scene we see zoya responds back on and off...and enjoying all this...this tells zoya was not aware about her feeling but she was not stopping herself and enjoying herself with asad...

next scene-when he tried to catch her pallu...he tried to catch her tell her aout feelings..but he was not ale to..same happened in show he tried hard to confess but he could not

next scene-again they are standing facing backs...here lyrics also came into action.."umre lagin kahte huye do lafz the ek baat thi,vo ek din sau saal ka sau saal ki vo raat thi"

it depicts the stage after SR.both were serious and sad and facing back ..means they were separated...about lyrics-asad's regret that he could not tell those simple words when they were needed...and zoya and asad's condition in separation where it was so hard for them to live without each other.

in the same scene zoya whispers something in his ears and walks away-i am not sure aout it but still putting my views...
zoya telling him that she loves him and walks away as we saw just after SR fiasco.
then next scene where asad stopping her catching her pallu...
as we saw...asad found her and tried to talk to her and confessed

following scene-was all romantic scene where asad was touching her..and zoya was quite..i think here in background they showed lighting was striking..so when they got united again some major happens...so gafoor card might play this time but for this they have to come together...
but the good thing is that..after they were always with each other,soo close and holding hands..what it might mean...will they always together and love each other and this time no MU ?????they might beseparated from external forces but they will be never separated from each other?
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Posted: 12 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: sujataraje

i have seen BNHH many times...and it tells AsYa story in perfect way..though i believemar jaaiyan also depicts the same...

in BNHH-first scene where asad tried to touch her dimple...simply depicts that first asad got enchanted by her...that we already know as asad was the one who got mesmerised at dargaah and even after that he was the one who started to feel first.

the same where zoya walks away but smiling...simply means how zoya behaved in show when she was getting attention from asad..she was teasing him and being happy with all this

second scene-where they are standing under shade...both are standing opposite sides..but asad approaches her first..and yes it was asad who approached zoya and walked towards her...same scene we see zoya responds back on and off...and enjoying all this...this tells zoya was not aware about her feeling but she was not stopping herself and enjoying herself with asad...

next scene-when he tried to catch her pallu...he tried to catch her tell her aout feelings..but he was not ale to..same happened in show he tried hard to confess but he could not

next scene-again they are standing facing backs...here lyrics also came into action.."umre lagin kahte huye do lafz the ek baat thi,vo ek din sau saal ka sau saal ki vo raat thi"

it depicts the stage after SR.both were serious and sad and facing back ..means they were separated...about lyrics-asad's regret that he could not tell those simple words when they were needed...and zoya and asad's condition in separation where it was so hard for them to live without each other.

in the same scene zoya whispers something in his ears and walks away-i am not sure aout it but still putting my views...
zoya telling him that she loves him and walks away as we saw just after SR fiasco.
then next scene where asad stopping her catching her pallu...
as we saw...asad found her and tried to talk to her and confessed

following scene-was all romantic scene where asad was touching her..and zoya was quite..i think here in background they showed lighting was striking..so when they got united again some major happens...so gafoor card might play this time but for this they have to come together...
but the good thing is that..after they were always with each other,soo close and holding hands..what it might mean...will they always together and love each other and this time no MU ?????they might beseparated from external forces but they will be never separated from each other?



Physical separation but not an emotional one.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: sujataraje

i have seen BNHH many times...and it tells AsYa story in perfect way..though i believemar jaaiyan also depicts the same...

in BNHH-first scene where asad tried to touch her dimple...simply depicts that first asad got enchanted by her...that we already know as asad was the one who got mesmerised at dargaah and even after that he was the one who started to feel first.

the same where zoya walks away but smiling...simply means how zoya behaved in show when she was getting attention from asad..she was teasing him and being happy with all this

second scene-where they are standing under shade...both are standing opposite sides..but asad approaches her first..and yes it was asad who approached zoya and walked towards her...same scene we see zoya responds back on and off...and enjoying all this...this tells zoya was not aware about her feeling but she was not stopping herself and enjoying herself with asad...

next scene-when he tried to catch her pallu...he tried to catch her tell her aout feelings..but he was not ale to..same happened in show he tried hard to confess but he could not

next scene-again they are standing facing backs...here lyrics also came into action.."umre lagin kahte huye do lafz the ek baat thi,vo ek din sau saal ka sau saal ki vo raat thi"

it depicts the stage after SR.both were serious and sad and facing back ..means they were separated...about lyrics-asad's regret that he could not tell those simple words when they were needed...and zoya and asad's condition in separation where it was so hard for them to live without each other.

in the same scene zoya whispers something in his ears and walks away-i am not sure aout it but still putting my views...
zoya telling him that she loves him and walks away as we saw just after SR fiasco.
then next scene where asad stopping her catching her pallu...
as we saw...asad found her and tried to talk to her and confessed

following scene-was all romantic scene where asad was touching her..and zoya was quite..i think here in background they showed lighting was striking..so when they got united again some major happens...so gafoor card might play this time but for this they have to come together...
but the good thing is that..after they were always with each other,soo close and holding hands..what it might mean...will they always together and love each other and this time no MU ?????they might beseparated from external forces but they will be never separated from each other?




I feel exactly the same about BNHH- it has not been possible to predict from it, but on retrospect, it makes a lot of sense-it is their love story...

Separation: Mar jaiyaan shows them being pulled away- again and again- physical separation...also, there was the promo of Gudiya factory where Zoya enters Rashid's house and starts seeing the players one by one...Asad was not there...he comes just as she is about to fall from the heat of the fire...they could be physically separated for a while when this happens.😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@ pri- but for physical separation first they need to be united physically...because emotionally they have been united now...so if they are not going to continue the current separation phase ..they should reunite them first physically and then separation where they will be always together emotionally...because if they don't unite them...aaad will be in impression that zoe does not want him

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