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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: niki_12

Interesting post! I agree with you that AsYa's lives have been quite similar and hence they share this deep bonding that no one can destroy.


At this point, I doubt a Jammy Billi situation will even come to the nikah stage. Had it been pre-Ajmer I would have thought but post Ajmer it does not fit in. Especially after the positive symbolism and Asad's prayers. Zoya will definitely rid Asad of his guilt. He deserves to know he is innocent and she will tell him. Just like Asad's confession revived Zoya, Zoya will revive Asad by telling him the truth. This is where trust comes in. This time Asad will believe her. Asad has always given billi a upperhand on him in the trust department but now its Zoya's turn to take over. Here is where the backstory will come in IMO. It will be from Asad's side as to why Billi had this hold on him after he finds about Billi. Mohabbat toh bohot hai, Yakeen bhi aa gaya!

Well said Niki but when faced with responsibility vs personal happiness, I am not sure if Asad will say NO to his responsibility

As far as Zoya's blind faith is concerned. I believe she had that in Asad. She trusted him blindly and thus did not react on billi's warnings. Now after Asad finds out about Billi, he will begin to trust Zoya blindly. When the Gaffur truth comes out, which IMO won't be for a very long time, I can see Asad standing by Zoya. He will be her rock because I strongly think she will be rejected time and time again before she can even get to know her father. She will face a lot of insults and difficult situations where Asad will help her out. Hence, he will have to step in that house for his wife. At this point i think, Billi will just be able to plant seeds of doubt and won't be able to reveal to Zoya that Gaffur is her father. I think Raziya will kill her. The only way Raziya can continue her reign is if Billi dies otherwise Raziya's downfall will be too soon.

That's certainly a storyline a lot of us want to see...but again the PH doesn't always think like you and me

How i see jealousy playing out is post AsYa marriage it is quite possible that Ayaan and Zoya become great friends and Ayaan approaches Zoya before Asad when he needs help especially since most his problems will be Humera related. This will make Asad feel left out in a sense that his brother no longer comes to him first and his wife feels Ayaan understands her better making Asad possessive. I don't think and I don't want Ayaan falling her Zoya or anything like that because Ayaan has seen Zoya has his to-be Bhabhi. Ayaan's character would be butchered if he does that. Plus, he himself promised Zoya that he would never hurt Humera. I think he will actually take Zoya's help to get close to Humera.

That would be more logical but the fact that Ayaan thinks Asad doesn't love Zoya makes me wonder if Raabert-Mona track will happen before AsYa nikaah

P.S.-If Jammy Billi come to a nikah stage then I think it would be AsYa playing Billi. In Ajmer Zoya would tell him the truth but because of lack of proof they can't do anything so she will come up with this plan. They may get secretly married before coming back but they will come back and play billi so that she does not hurt Zoya again. To protect Zoya, Asad will do that and then before the nikah she will be revealed. But the only reason I feel this also won't happen and billi will be kicked out is the grave spoiler video. Why would billi be compelled to use this if she is getting married to Asad. Or maybe to distance Zoya from the house?

Yeah, the grave spoiler has thrown us all a little off. I would love if AsYa play billi but then the forum 32 article about Asad's blind faith has a back story makes me wonder...

Thanks niki. Wonderful comments and I am sure if we wrote this story, we would use all these ideas😃




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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: princeegoyal

hey sangeeta...i like ur post...

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Thanks Pari...loved all your points and counterpoints. I would still not discount Raabert-Mona track but maybe to expose Tanu and pethaps help Humeira become Humeira from Rajni again
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: iheartChai

I have to say I always enjoyed your post because you also bring up such interesting points. And you have the ability to calm minds in the forum when things don't go exactly as expected and everyone is ready with their pitch forks ready to go hunt the CVs down.


thanks...QH stirs our minds, doesn't it?


Asad & Zoya's Story: Mirror Images?

While Asad and Zoya have lived the majority of their lives on different continents and with a different set of value system, it's not a mere coincidence that since they have met, a number of incidents in their respective lives mirror each other. Is it the writer's way of bringing out the irony in their lives; a way to help them see each other's perspectives? Is it a way of showing us that one can never empathize with another person unless we are in their shoes?


This is a very interesting observance for sure. It seems to be the case with Asad and Zoya. Outwardly they seem so different but if you look deeper you actually see that they are very similar. This is purely my own opinion and my own understanding of Zoya and Asad's characters thus far. They have both experienced some sort of heartbreak in their childhood. Asad was raised by a single mother. His father betrayed his mother and the entire family and left them. As far as Asad is concern he has no father. Zoya briefly had her mother until she was murder by Razia. Her father was non-existent in her life. Even though she was later adopted into Zeenat's family the longing to be with "one of your own" or know more about your "roots"...her biological father...her family's past has always remained with Zoya. Zoya longs for this familial love; even Asad despite his hatred for Rashid deep down inside longs for the love of a father.

Absolutely agree...in fact I had made a post a long time ago on how Asad and Zoya are actually similar. Not only with respect to their past stories but also in the way they view relationships, marriage and family

So to me they are very much the same...both longing to belong to someone..to find that inner peace.


They just hide their pain in different ways. Asad is serious, thinks with his head, keeps his heart closed, does not trust people easily, and is very logical. He keeps a wall between himself and the world. I know that the serial has shown Asad having OCD but I always wondered if this was triggered when Rashid left them. The traumatic event of seeing your father leave as if he didn't care and seeing your mother in tears and fall into depression could cause a psychological response. Asad was so young he had no control over the situation. The only thing he could control was himself.

absolutely...a number of kids develop emotional issues after parental separation. Asad probably developed OCD and control issues and in fact, Zoya has ADD (if you look at all her symptoms)- also a result of her childhood trauma


Zoya is carefree, thinks with her heart, smiles away her troubles, and gives people the benefit of the doubt. She hides behind her cheery demeanor and jokes things away so she doesn't have to think about depressing things.


The one thing I loved about Qubool Hai is the complex storytelling. The story was the first thing that attracted me to the show. I like how the characters interact and how all their paths are interconnected despite there being two houses. I cannot wait until more truths get revealed and we have the two families interacting more. Along with the storyline is the character development. I can actually see character growth in Asad, Zoya, and Ayaan. And I think right now in the story we are seeing each of them learning important lessons and their attempts to rectify their mistakes.

same here...it's the characterization and concept+ KSG (of course) that drew me to this story


Based on these mirror incidents, are we going to see the following in future?

1. Qubool Nahin Hai: Will Zoya stop Asad-Tanu nikaah just like Asad stopped Akram-Zoya's nikaah? In both cases, the nikaah would be forced and not a willing alliance.

This would be interesting if the serial took this route. I think all of us are trying to figure out what the CVs will have Tanveer do next. I'm surprised they haven't had Tanveer use the pregnant card yet. Even though logically it wouldn't make much sense as she would be easily exposed since the serial has even mentioned that she will be showing her baby bump soon. But knowing how logic generally does not work well in these serials I have a feeling Tanveer will play this card soon once Zoya returns to Khan mansion.

Exactly! I feel that is her trump card and she will use it when all else fails. Yes, we shouldn't expect logic from our serials

I would love it if the CVs allowed Asad to use his brain and start doubting some things that are currently being spoon fed to him by Tanveer. I know a lot of people here on the forum cannot stand how the CVs have dumb down Asad's character. But a lot of this is truly tied to Asad's unwavering faith in his childhood best friend. Asad doesn't have many close friends and most of his close relationships are with his family only. I think people keep forgetting that fact that Asad has closed himself to the rest of the world. He only allows certain people into his inner circle. Tanveer unfortunately, has turned into a rotten apple. But Asad doesn't know this and she has never given him any indication as such till this date that she has changed and is not the same person he once knew. Those in Asad's inner circle are people he trust and he would never doubt them unless there is proof...not just speculation but undeniable "see with your eyes" proof that the person is doing something wrong.

Asad is paying the price of being a good friend. You are right, Asad doesn't have too many people he depends on and unfortunately, Tanu is one of them...that's why it will take a big reveal for him to snap his ties with tank but I can't wait for that day!

It would be awesome if Asad ends up teaming up with Zoya to get to the bottom of things. But considering poor Asad's state he has completely lost faith in himself and is a broken and battered individual at the moment. I just don't see CVs doing anything for Asad's character at the moment. So Zoya, Superwoman...Ms. Bond to the rescue it is! 😆

yeah, that's what I feel too...especially after the forum 32 article


3. Asad's blind faith in Tanveer has been the biggest point of contention in their relationship in recent months. Will tables turn when Ghafoor's identity as Zoya's abbu is revealed? Will we see Zoya trust her abbu blindly? Just so she can win him over? Will this create tension in Asad-Zoya's (hopefully married life by then?)

I'm on the fence with Gaffur. I don't know if he is as evil as Razia. I thought there was some redemption in him when we saw him at the orphanage but then he blew up and tried to slap the poor kid was accidentally ran into Zoya with the tea tray. We still do not know the full story and how things came to be with Zoya's mother and Razia. It should be interesting how things play out. I think it will be dependent on how the things get revealed. If it is a partial truth then I think we may see Zoya for a time wanting to speak to her father and understand and know more about him and Asad being unhappy with her trying to get close to Gaffur. But eventually Asad will understand and by this point Asad and Zoya's relationship will should be stronger...and yes, hopefully married by then.

I have a feeling that Zoya will initially try to appease her dad as she has craved from him all her life. Asad will try to deter her but that might create issues between them...just like Tanu has created a rift between Asya

5. Jealousy: We have seen a jealous Zoya when Jammy-Tanu story was unfolding. How about a jealous Asad when Raabert-Mona story takes off?

It would be nice to see a Jealous Asad. But I think the Zoyaan ship has already sailed. At least to me it has unless the CVs have some gigantic plot twist and throw this into the mix...you never know with the CVs...anything can be possible. I would prefer another man to enter Zoya's life. For instance it could be a co-worker...Zoya gets a job after getting married to Asad. I just do not see Zoya as a stand at home kind of girl...not that I have anything wrong with that if the CVs do this to her but it would be nice to see her as working woman/wife. It will add more possible storylines for the CVs to explore.

That would be wonderful but we have to remember the initial dargah symbolism and ayaan statement from the other day😕

Phew...wrote a lot...don't know if any of it made sense of even answered any of your points 😆

hey...loved all your points

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: bheegi

Asad & Zoya's Story: Mirror Images?

Sangeeta, nice to see your post on Saturday. The title confused me first but then your point came through loud and clear when I read the post!

This is an interesting observation based on the story ( so far) and many posts I have read about AsYa. I would like to credit Vicky, MKI, Shrishti for some of their observations too.

While Asad and Zoya have lived the majority of their lives on different continents and with a different set of value system, it's not a mere coincidence that since they have met, a number of incidents in their respective lives mirror each other. Is it the writer's way of bringing out the irony in their lives; a way to help them see each other's perspectives? Is it a way of showing us that one can never empathize with another person unless we are in their shoes?

How true! Well said! What goes around comes around. Zoya experienced these incidents first and now its Asad's turn. Unfortunately, the intensity for Asad is ten-fold. At least that's my opinion!


Dargah Scenes:

If the first Dargah scene had Zoya crying and pleading to Allah with Asad paying his reverence to Allah, the second Dargah scene highlighted the opposite- Asad crying and pleading while Zoya just paid her respects.


True. Second scene was more intense as Asad and Zoya are heartbroken and Asad was pleading to get his life, his Zoya back! Zoya was in tears too.

Trust Issues:

In the past, on several occasions, Asad's mistrust of Zoya and her actions has created a misunderstanding between them. Fast forward to the eventful June 20-21st episode. Zoya lost complete trust in the man she had immense trust in. Ironically, just as Zoya had been innocent in the past, this time Asad was completely innocent but couldn't prove it to Zoya.

Asad now understands how it feels when the person you love does not trust you. Although, he got a super big dose rolled up for all the smaller doses he gave Zoya! (The slap incident was a big one). The only difference is that Zoya knew she was innocent and here Asad has no clue what really transpired that day! So, again more intense!

Communication Issues:

In the past, we have seen Asad unwilling to hear Zoya's POV. Lately, we have seen the opposite happen. Zoya has refused to hear his side of the story after the SR incident.

Absolutely! The second cycle is more intense as both are in love and both are hurting tremendously!

Frantic Pursuit:

Just like we saw Asad frantic dash to the airport after he learnt of Zoya's innocence, we are now seeing Zoya's frantic search for him after she deduced that Tanveer was behind the SR fiasco and Asad is innocent.

Great point!


Based on these mirror incidents, are we going to see the following in future?

  1. Qubool Nahin Hai: Will Zoya stop Asad-Tanu nikaah just like Asad stopped Akram-Zoya's nikaah? In both cases, the nikaah would be forced and not a willing alliance.
  2. Asad's blind faith in Tanveer has been the biggest point of contention in their relationship in recent months. Will tables turn when Ghafoor's identity as Zoya's abbu is revealed? Will we see Zoya trust her abbu blindly? Just so she can win him over? Will this create tension in Asad-Zoya's (hopefully married life by then?)
  3. Jealousy: We have seen a jealous Zoya when Jammy-Tanu story was unfolding. How about a jealous Asad when Raabert-Mona story takes off?

Great observations! I'd love to see 1. High chances of 2 happening as Zoya has been pining for her Abbu. 3- I do want to see a jealous Asad. Based on Ayaan's senseless statement after the AsYa Nikaah broke, I am dreading the Zoyaan track. Although, Ayaan has not shown any attraction towards Zoya after the 1st dargah scene. Also, the new Humz amnesia/DID track is interesting and tables seem to be turning in the Ayaan Humz track (parallel mirror image track??). The CVs seem unsure whether to use or not use the Zoyaan track. Hope they don't. I prefer the Raabert Mona track instead.

Would love to hear from you all'.feel free to add other similar observations.

To add to your observations:

4. Asad has saved Zoya from near death situations. I've mentioned this before that I'd like to see Zoya overcome her pyrophobia and help rescue Asad from a fire!

5. Zoya has always used her brains to solve problems. Time to see Asad Miya using those grey cells. Hope he finds out the Gudia factory saazish ka raaz and Ghafoor's truth!

6. Zoya has tried a lot to please him: cook for him, wear saris etc. His turn now. Although have to say that he has bought her kachoris, coffee, cheesecake and sleeveless dress! Would like to see him take her to a cricket match to watch MSD!! This is probably a lame one!

7. Zoya has taken good care of his family. What can he do for hers? Aapi, Jeeju, Humz or Ghafoor?

8. Asad tended to an injured Zoya multiple times. Her turn to return the favor. Although I can't see her carrying mr bodybuilder in her arms!😉


Enjoyed reading and replying to your post! Got to use the grey cells on a lazy afternoon!

Edited by webuser7 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Hi Sangi...really nice thoughts...

1) Asad confessed to loving Zoya till his last breath...this is suppose to be his redemption ...but what have we seen till now... crying and sobbing...what he needs to do is follow through his promise to her...and for that he cannot give into his besties's demands anymore...not even if she plays the pregnancy card...if he has committed to Zoya for life then I don't see why he should want to commit to Billo...he is a righteous man and not a hypocrite...he was appalled when he heard that Mariam was forced to marry her rapist...then why would he want to marry Billo if he thinks that he forced on her...I don't think he should want to commit to another woman knowing very well that he cannot love ever...it's all the more unhealthy for a child to see parents not in love...the point is Asad shouldn't want to marry Billo after confessing his love to Zoya...it will just look completely baseless.

2) I think Zoya will actually despise a man like Guffur once she knows that he is her biological father...I don't see her believing him at all or I would like to see that.

3) it looks like this is Ayaan's redemption track...

Sangi...honestly I have stopped worrying about the storyline after the date rape sequence...I have lost all my respect for Gul because I am shocked the way she portrayed this very sensitive issue in a most callous manner...I always believed that she had a great sense of romance in her but she has scarred that completely with Asya by bringing in this Billo track...I feel a sense of loyalty towards Zoya's character but I am getting really disappointed with that too...it's irritating to see that she hasn't once reflected back to the fact that she was suffocated and buried in a wall ? Like seriously...no one called the cops...Asad or Zoya...?
Edited by Rupunzale - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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i think the first prediction is damn good yaar.

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