Zoya's Skirt Part II P1 and P8 update - Page 2

May I beg to differ. I dont think the cvs forgot anything. Even if Zoya wore minis in NY all the time, what they wanted to show (even via Dilshads outburst) was that when the ocassion called, Zoya was all covered. Now, if this is how Zoya showed up on purpose in front of Maulvi ji, or on Quran Khwani, or on her Jashne Bahar, then I agree Dilshad needs to apologize, but here, she was in her home, actually in her room, and it was merely a girl to girl thing, that got caught in the wrong timing. I dont think we can say that the CVs forgot the lectures about a girl being covered earlier - because at that ocassion, it was only appropriate that though she was in modern or western wear she was fully covered. Yes, she was not fully covered yesterday, but then it was within four walls. I am sure even in NY, Zoya has the decency to know what to wear when and where... Infact, the fact that she alwys wore jeans, only cememnts my thought process

Originally posted by: Laila2009

I've read a number of posts here where people have boldly claimed they do in India and now you telling me they do not because it is unsafe? So whom do I believe. OK, she cannot wear it outside based on your post, but she wear it inside the house? Right?

Originally posted by: starsinmyeyes

Yes some people boldly do that...because they are comfortable in it...I am not so i do not do it...its not about believing me or them...because they do it and i don't doesn't mean that one of us is right and the other is wrong...its a personal choice totally...and plz do not misquote me...i said i do not because i don't like ppl staring it me like i have just dropped from mars...i am not talking abt anyone else...and my dear..our country is unsafe for a woman even if she wears a saree or a bikini...it's unsafe..period...

As far as Zoya is concerned..the main reason behind her not wearing it is Asad...woh Asad ke ghar mein rehti hai...jo kaam woh uske ghar ke andar karne se darti hai woh bahar kaise karegi...and its not abt she is wrong and he is right...or vice versa...her clothes are her opinion...Asad doesn't like it even then she can wear it...but she chooses not to because she loves him...she is not sacrificing or compromising on her ideology..she is just giving more priority to the person who means more to her than any dressing style...

She knew he would be angry...and he was..but usko yeh bone ki woh galat ladki hai uske liye..not giving her a chance to explain...that was not ok...and skirt pehenna is not a crime...so stop making it sound like one...its an earnest request...i admit the time and place was horribly wrong..but she hasn't murdered anyone or tried to murder anyone (read as raziya and tanveer)...

The point of the scene is not to promote a mini skirt clad heroine..it is to promote the fact that your clothes can define your habitat...not your character...

If u give up something for the one you love it does not imply that u gave it up because it was wrong...it implies that you value that person way more than the habit that u gave up...har baar baat sahi aur galat mein slot nahi ki jaa sakti...

I hope i have answered ur question...😊

Originally posted by: Laila2009

I am flattered you like it because you are an excellent writer and i loved your post about the skirt. i agree with you. there are a number of posts that claim Zoya was liberal - sure she might have been in her mind, but I never saw it in her dress. She never showed cleavage - all her shirts were high collared or buttoned and she never even worse skinny jeans. Then, out of nowhere she is not only in a mini but professing that she wears it regularly in New York and I am huh? Where did that belt suddenly spring from? Zoya is not even seen wearing a long skirt, a knee length and then, all of a sudden a micro mini - and horribly hideous to say the least. i am like you, I have a hard time accepting this Zoya. I also struggle because she does not respresent to me the average liberal Muslim girl from New York.

I had a tough time putting the slap aside, the idea that Ayaan and Zoya might end up having a romance, and now this nonsense with the skirt. because it has changed who Zoya ia as a person to me. As much as we argue we do not use clothing to rate others, we do. I even did a study on it many years ago that people unconsciously do rate others so us doing it, there is nothing wrong. Plus there are studies that link clothing with personality - so the type of clothes reflect your personality and vice versa. So to say you are not your clothing is actually erroneous but that it too hard to explain to people here.

Yeah I just think if they had shown Zoya to be more liberal from the beginning (I mean not show her so covered up all the time) then I wouldn't have had any issues with this. Except for maybe the length of the skirt that I sincerely find to be highly inappropriate. And wearing a skirt that length... I don't understand how Zoya can expect not be judged, because like you said, your personality does influence your choice of clothes.

Besides, you did bring up a very valid point. If the skirt was not trashy/inappropriate as suggested by many of the other forum members, and if Zoya should dress as she wants like she did in NY and Asad should accept her how she is... then maybe Zoya should wear miniskirts of this length for more episodes as well. it's normal right? But it's not going to happen, because face it, it isn't normal. It is in fact inappropriate. But that's my personal opinion.

Originally posted by: goingreen

Yeah I just think if they had shown Zoya to be more liberal from the beginning (I mean not show her so covered up all the time) then I wouldn't have had any issues with this. Except for maybe the length of the skirt that I sincerely find to be highly inappropriate. And wearing a skirt that length... I don't understand how Zoya can expect not be judged, because like you said, your personality does influence your choice of clothes.

Besides, you did bring up a very valid point. If the skirt was not trashy/inappropriate as suggested by many of the other forum members, and if Zoya should dress as she wants like she did in NY and Asad should accept her how she is... then maybe Zoya should wear miniskirts of this length for more episodes as well. it's normal right? But it's not going to happen, because face it, it isn't normal. It is in fact inappropriate. But that's my personal opinion.

Originally posted by: wahForums

May I beg to differ. I dont think the cvs forgot anything. Even if Zoya wore minis in NY all the time, what they wanted to show (even via Dilshads outburst) was that when the ocassion called, Zoya was all covered. Now, if this is how Zoya showed up on purpose in front of Maulvi ji, or on Quran Khwani, or on her Jashne Bahar, then I agree Dilshad needs to apologize, but here, she was in her home, actually in her room, and it was merely a girl to girl thing, that got caught in the wrong timing. I dont think we can say that the CVs forgot the lectures about a girl being covered earlier - because at that ocassion, it was only appropriate that though she was in modern or western wear she was fully covered. Yes, she was not fully covered yesterday, but then it was within four walls. I am sure even in NY, Zoya has the decency to know what to wear when and where... Infact, the fact that she alwys wore jeans, only cememnts my thought process

The skirt was thrown in by the writers to prove a point that we should not judge people based on how the dress - fair enough; however, the choice of skirt makes it rather ludicrous for someone not to look at it and say "hello, don't you that's a bit short and inappropriate?" Had it been a skirt that a majority of women would feel comfortable with, then the whole scene would have had more depth.

Originally posted by: Laila2009

The skirt was thrown in by the writers to prove a point that we should not judge people based on how the dress - fair enough; however, the choice of skirt makes it rather ludicrous for someone not to look at it and say "hello, don't you that's a bit short and inappropriate?" Had it been a skirt that a majority of women would feel comfortable with, then the whole scene would have had more depth.

The stylist is the one who chose Zoya's skirt; clearly neither she nor the director had in mind what length the writer and envisaged for the scene. Neither do they know what Musilm women wear in New York, so they go by what they think and that is ow Zoya ended up in the mico mini.

It is interesting. Karan Singh Grover himself referred to it as a handkerchief and was amused by its length. Clearly the length was questionable.

Writers need to think carefully when the make 180 degree turns with their characters and also not keep repeating the same old gissa pitta lectures - we already had plenty on how Asad should not judge her wearing jeans. Now what will Zoya need to wear to prove to Asad and the audience that he should not judge her.

Originally posted by: Laila2009

O no! Another post...

Here is something i want you all to think about. If you watch the show, Asad did not like Zoya's wearing jeans, but she chose to wear them anyway and Asad came around and accepted her jeans and all. If she claims that the skirt is something she wore in New York - and from what I gather quite often, then why does she chose not to wear it in India. I have seen a number of girls here claim they wear skirts and shorts of them same length so to say that it is not the place would be wrong. If Zoya feels that the skirt is perfectly acceptable and Asad knows this is her dress choice, then why doesn't she take them out and always wear it?

The writers are quite hypocritical; they want to promote that mini skirts are OK, but they will only have Zoya wear them for one episode; if this is Zoya's true dress and not her jeans, and they want to promote that judging someone is wrong buy their clothes, then Zoya should wear the micro from now on.

If not, then Zoya is actually giving in to Asad's whims and is not as tough or independently assertive and she is letting Asad dictate to her how she should dress. As Zoya bursts out screaming that the problem is with Asad, then she should not return the skirt to the wardrobe.

The writers will actually be too afraid to take this step; the purpose of this scene was simply to boost their TRP ratings as the whole idea would draw attention. The scene was very out of place in terms of the character - if you take the time too look it actually does contradict with the comments Dilshaad made about Zoya's dress to the woman in the saree. But they didn't care about what they wrote and wanted to show off that they were progressive and people needed to be progressive in terms of dress and this case mico minis.

I personally think that Dilshaad should send that woman an apology note as well for chastisingher on her revealing clothes on the day of the Quran Khani.

I am sure many viewers who also wear short skirts would like to see Zoya true to herself and wearing the micro mini instead of the jeans. i mean we all know she wears them, so why hide it as if it is something with which she should be ashamed.

Remember if you say Zoya is trying to be respectful by not wearing it, then you are actually questioning that the skirt is not acceptable. After all she wore the jeans which were also questionable.

If the skirt is not too short or inappropriate to the writers, you or the character, then Zoya should be wearing it in the house in front of everyone.

Originally posted by: poorvab

it wasnt about majority of women!! it was about zoya, every individual is different and they wear what they like.

how can you generalize that no Muslim woman in New York wears such a skirt? have you seen everyone in all of their daily routine?