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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: herms_angel

Think this is better suited here. So...


Thanks. There were so many negative posts, i stopped reading them and missed this gem. Thank you!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Laila2009


Thanks. There were so many negative posts, i stopped reading them and missed this gem. Thank you!

No matter! Its always nice to find like-minded people around. Although, we all have to agree to disagree when need be. I don't really get the point in lashing out at each other.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Laila2009

The viewers need to be comfortable with what they see; they are the ones for whom this show has been written. Zoya is a character, this has nothing to do with how comfortable she feels. . If she comfortable wearing a G-String outside, that does not mean as a viewer I have to be or hold back from expressing it.
Again, Muslim women in New York are very unlikely to dress in micro minis. It's commonsense. Attacking me is not going to change it.

@ bold. I have lived in New Jersey for many years and you know it is the border to New York City. I have tons of muslim girlfriends and some of them would wear micro minis, extreme mini shorts so it cannot be all about commonsense. I had other friends in the same group who would wear hijab all the time. It was all acceptable and none of us were upset or unhappy about each other's clothing.
I am only saying this coz you said it was all muslim women and it was commonsense.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: soapliker

@ bold. I have lived in New Jersey for many years and you know it is the border to New York City. I have tons of muslim girlfriends and some of them would wear micro minis, extreme mini shorts so it cannot be all about commonsense. I had other friends in the same group who would wear hijab all the time. It was all acceptable and none of us were upset or unhappy about each other's clothing.

I am only saying this coz you said it was all muslim women and it was commonsense.

How fascinating. Your friends were Indian/Pakistan too? Young adult women? Did they wear these outside or in the home? I knwo Arab girls who wear it in the home, but wear a burkha outside. And both gorups got along? How interesting...that's not often the case.
I won't deny it, but I am always facinated at the claims people make here as we only have their word by which we can go by. I hope you understand.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Laila2009

The skirt was thrown in by the writers to prove a point that we should not judge people based on how the dress - fair enough; however, the choice of skirt makes it rather ludicrous for someone not to look at it and say "hello, don't you that's a bit short and inappropriate?" Had it been a skirt that a majority of women would feel comfortable with, then the whole scene would have had more depth.


The stylist is the one who chose Zoya's skirt; clearly neither she nor the director had in mind what length the writer and envisaged for the scene. Neither do they know what Musilm women wear in New York, so they go by what they think and that is ow Zoya ended up in the mico mini.
It is interesting. Karan Singh Grover himself referred to it as a handkerchief and was amused by its length. Clearly the length was questionable.
Writers need to think carefully when the make 180 degree turns with their characters and also not keep repeating the same old gissa pitta lectures - we already had plenty on how Asad should not judge her wearing jeans. Now what will Zoya need to wear to prove to Asad and the audience that he should not judge her.


I don't think Zoya Farooqui is the benchmark for what (Muslim) women anywhere in the world wear. I don't think (Muslim) women anywhere in the world dance in front of their iPads or have people with stone eyes living in their homes. It's an event that occurred in isolation and should be viewed as such.

I think (Muslim) women everywhere do themselves a disservice by being offended by this kind of scene. Their lives are far removed from a TV soap and nobody is stereotyping them based on this one scene. Nor was that scene enforcing any stereotypes as far as I could see. (Muslim) women come in all flavors as do their sensibilities. As far as I can see, you're scoring a self goal by outraging over this incessantly. That's just my 2 cents. I think liberal, educated Muslim women the world over would do better to be exactly that- liberal.

Frankly the fact that this skirt and its length is the topic of so much discussion drives home one point and one point only- people are still judged only by what they wear and not who they are.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Laila2009

How fascinating. Your friends were Indian/Pakistan too? Young adult women? Did they wear these outside or in the home? I knwo Arab girls who wear it in the home, but wear a burkha outside. And both gorups got along? How interesting...that's not often the case.
I won't deny it, but I am always facinated at the claims people make here as we only have their word by which we can go by. I hope you understand.

I totally get you and do understand. It is hard in a virtual world to believe anybody.
Mostly were from Pakistan with 1 from India and 1 from Bangladesh. They all grew up together in Brooklyn and so knew each other for a long time. And I am talking of outside when we met up at cafes or restaurants.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: Laila2009



I really tried to stay out of arguing with you on this as most of what i wanted to say was said already by someone else. But this article really got me.

Your own article,

"Wearing overly revealing clothing often exudes insecurity, and an attempt to gather attention based solely on your body (perhaps suggesting that's all there is to offer)."
very true
but also

Many say occasionally wearing that skimpy outfit is fun, flirty, and quite acceptable,
This is the point we are all making, time, place and age. Zoya a 20 something year old wearing a skirt at home and wearing it often in (in summer I presume, or she'll freeze her behind) in NY where people dont mind at all; is perfectly fine! You dont like it, dont wear it, dont let the people over whom you have control. But don't dictate what a "good girl" can or cannot do, they can decide for themselves or have people in their lives who will decide for them!




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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: bostongirl11


I don't think Zoya Farooqui is the benchmark for what (Muslim) women anywhere in the world wear. I don't think (Muslim) women anywhere in the world dance in front of their iPads or have people with stone eyes living in their homes. It's an event that occurred in isolation and should be viewed as such.

I think (Muslim) women everywhere do themselves a disservice by being offended by this kind of scene. Their lives are far removed from a TV soap and nobody is stereotyping them based on this one scene. Nor was that scene enforcing any stereotypes as far as I could see. (Muslim) women come in all flavors as do their sensibilities. As far as I can see, you're scoring a self goal by outraging over this incessantly. That's just my 2 cents. I think liberal, educated Muslim women the world over would do better to be exactly that- liberal.

Frankly the fact that this skirt and its length is the topic of so much discussion drives home one point and one point only- people are still judged only by what they wear and not who they are.


very well said!! 👏
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Posted: 12 years ago
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you know what i thought about the whole scene..etc,etc etc.. i have no problem zoe wearing mini slkirt home with no male around im fine with that,, but this whole thing boils down to the makers of this show, i think they are doing a good job of exploiting the actress in the name of liberalsim, progression, etc e,tc and all the crap of theological terms people want to use, all they care about is ratings and they are making good money on the show and that is all that it really boils down to they are the real hypocrits cuz they dont have the guts to prove their opinions otherwise but through other people, cuz people are crazy over the actors/actress so they want to program them to think and accept any and every crap they lay dowm...Its all about as the americans would say Old Uncle Sam😉
btw, zoya could have easily gone back to her room and change it was uncalled for to have her run in the kitchen behind the chairs ...sooo foolish.. but i guess that was to have the whole blow between her and asad and for him to start accepting her..
oh one more thing while zoya was blowing steam on asad. she asked him why is he marrrying her... i want to redirect the question, why is zoya even going along with the wedding herself, since she feels asad is not compatible to her?
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Posted: 12 years ago
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In one word... Let everyone has the right to wear what he or she likes...it's someone own choice... Wear it if you are comfortable or else don't wear..,..

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