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Posted: 12 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: AsadkiDeewani

Thank you!! You completely said what I've been wanting to say for the past couple of episodes since we've seen that Asad, if you look at his character progression, has mellowed a lot and given a lot of rights to Zoya. Firstly, a lot less shouting since the murgi and the burning wala incident and little more trust (albeit still low). Secondly, if anybody noticed, during the dance master track, besides the jealousy angle, he tried to control his anger just coz she asked him to. If you notice, there are several times that with her expressions, she keeps asking him to calm down and he does control his urges. Would Asad have done that in the beginning? I doubt it. Also, like a lot of people have mentioned, even in today's episode, he was willing to hear her out instead of straight away jumping to conclusions and shutting her out.

Yea, Asad is judgmental to the core but we have always known that so it should not be a surprise. And his lack of trust is not limited to Zoya. It extends to anyone outside of his family which unfortunately, at present, includes Tanveer.

I love your analysis of the plate and spoon analogy and the way you mentioned exactly how they complete each other. It was bang on. Hopefully, this Tanu track gets over soon though coz honeslty it is getting kinda boring and frustrating even though I understand where each of the characters are coming from. Cannot wait for Asad's repentance track to kick in and their pakki waali mohabbat to begin.


Thank you. I agree. Even though at a snail's pace, Asad's character is evolving and whatever changes we have seen in him have been for Zoe and because of Zoe.He still is a poor judge of people and his trust issues are all messed up. But change is coming and it shall come, slowly.

Everyone is tired of Tannu, man. Haseena ise apni bahu banaake le jaaye bas.😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
#52
Victoria,,,,,,,,,,, that was a stunner of a post...
so true Asad Zoya's love story is unique and isn't that the reason we all are crazy about it...
the pheras at the dining table was the cutest today...
Zoya tanveer angle is going up for an explosion just hope it brings us something positive...
hassena needs Tanveer as a DIL... they r a perfect combo... at least Nikhat will be saved...
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Posted: 12 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: Drea_QH1fan

Just because a love story does not fit your idea of love , doesn't mean its not a love story. You are not every person and you are not everyone's love. You are not the whole world and you never will be. <---That right there! I LOVE IT!


I think when Zoya tried to keep him from going to the courts to testify against Rashid was the biggest let down for him especially since everyone was against him at that point. Well except for Zoya but eventually even she turned against him. I don't think he's forgotten about that and every other time she's lied. So Tanveer most likely really is the only person whose never broken his trust. That's why I don't get too too upset about their relationship.

Asad allowed Zoya to question Tanveer and even gave her chance to provide evidence to support what she was saying. But she didn't have any. So why is everyone upset? And kicking a fuss about trust and love and all that jazz. Its simple the man needs proof and hardcore facts. She failed. But I love that she stays determined to get to the bottom of it.

I loved your post! 👏 👏 😃


Thank you.😃... Yes, Zoe's past deceits work against her just like Asad's anger works against him. His trust zones are quite warped and hypersensitive - so, for him to suddenly throw Tanveer out of life needs solid reasoning. Asad loves Zoe but he is not blind in her love. Similarly. Zoe loves Asad but she is not blind in his love either. So, facts and practicality will always matter between them.

Everyone is upset because they see Asad as the archetypal representation of all the oppressive men in society. He is just Asad. Not a human being they would give a benefit of doubt. Asad's biggest fault is that he is not a daal-chaawal ideal-types. And apparently, damaged people have no right to live in this world.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: Madame_Noddy

great post vicky! I am res-ing for tonight, will give u the daily history of a comment tomorow. Reason: lights turned out, mum sleeping beside n if i dnt shut my cell now, papa band baja denge. Gudnite!


Get some good sleep tonight.😃
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Khwahish-

Dude you changed my perspective ...

Thanks a lot for this amazing post
I was breaking my nerves on why asad doesn't trusts zoya ...
and the lines where you said that every love story need not be how we define love story ...That was worth applauding !

You are just amazing at portraying your thoughts !
Keep up your awesome work
will always await for your further thoughts
and a big thank you for this post !


Thank you. Please don't change your POV just because i said something.😆... i just want everyone to look at both sides of the coin. The world does not need judgments. Its cruel enough already and how.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: ar-n-only-ar

ok now what was this? it was freaking awsum man... its a fab post...
u analysed d whole situation so intellectually n with d combo of ur heart ofcourse n d examples u quoted are apt... this is one of d best post read in a long time . so cudnt stop commenting :-)


Thank you.😃...I just tried looking at both the sides- i mean, nobody is a villain here except BCA. So, why not hear the story at both the sides of the fence.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: starsinmyeyes

As always...bang on target!!!!


Shukriyaa, shukriyaa, shukriyaa.😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
#58

Originally posted by: Ankita.M

Vicky I want to dedicate a song to you, but its going to be cheesy REALLY cheesy lol. Imma come back to edit this post with my vent 🤣


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I agree with you like every time.

I am not complaining about the forum in general but its just something I cannot relate to when someone comments on a love story not being love, or the person not loving Zoya enough, and so on and not deserving. I don't understand how hard it can be to understand the characters sketch and gauge the reactions and actions keeping that in view.

Asad is judgmental, has his own stubborn rigid ideologies, is a loner and has gone through a rough patch in his life making him seem like a stone from the outside but totally fragile and vulnerable beneath. Zoya is a carefree, impulsive, but a honest, giving and selfless girl. Who has had a bad past herself which has made her oblivious to gauging and rationalizing and makes her crave for acceptance. These few things make them what they are, literally as different as a spoon and plate.

They both are different but cannot help that they have fallen in love, but because they have fallen in love does not mean that their love has reached its destination. They have just felt and recognized the feeling, I mean Asad has, Zoya is yet to. And they are yet to build on this relation, work on it and learn to express it. That can only be possible when they both are sure that the other loves them, and when both are on the same page is when they can make this work. Their relation is at an extremely initial stage at this moment and is obvious to go through certain tests before it reaches its path, even before its destination really.

Not siding anyone but honestly without a bias what has Asad seen so far to believe that Tanveer is lying or is evil. She is his friend and a very close one at that. He is bound to trust her.
He has seen Zoya be impulsive, hide a few things and make up excuses or lies. Its not that he does not trust her at all, he just feels she has impulsively and in a hasty manner once again, not understood a matter in its entirety. He doubts her judgements and not her itself.

Zoya means good and is selflessly trying to expose Tanveer, but at this moment she just knows Tannu is lying does not know the magnanimity of the situation. Once she realizes what Tanveer is really up to and the extent that she can go to, she will definitely know how to deal with her as well.


Thank you, Ankita. The problem with this forum is that not only it is plagued by some pseudo-intellectuals who think that they have seen the entire world, gone through everything and are so flawless themselves that they can just get up and judge anyone. Limited and myopic view of both life and people. So, i have nothing to say about them. Even the two sentences that i have written for them is a waste of cyberspace.

Like you said, AsYa's relationship is at its initial stage , its intense and true - but its sensitive as well. It has to go through a whole journey to become as rock solid as we want it to be.

Its not about taking sides at all. As much as i feel like punching Asad everytime he howls at Zoe, its true that he has not seen even a shadow of any evil in Tanveer to doubt her. We are frustrated with Tannu , but taking it out all on Asad is no maturity either.

Zoe is going to see darker shades of Tannu and that could be the beginning of Zoe getting her life endangered - Asad needs this wake up call and a backstab from Tanveer.😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
#59

Originally posted by: chicksoup

And that too a man who is a jackass judgmental with 101% blind faith in his own beliefs? A man who has set beliefs and a code of norms that categorizes people. 👏


In the past, Zoe has lied so much to Asad , hidden so many things from him, done so much without keeping him in the loop that even though he loves her with his life and accepts her denims, pizzas and cokes, he sees 'lack of honesty and integrity' as one of her negatives. So, while his best friend presents a picture of pristine honesty, Zoe's quick minded fickle fun factor appears a drawback to him. Remember his dialogue to Zoe ? Jhooth ke pairr nahiin hotte. 👏👏 ...

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Love grows, evolves, learns, blooms and then, its complete. A brick is going to be a building someday. A seed is going to be a gigantic tree one day. A sea sediment is going to be a mountain some day. An embryo is going to be a human being someday. But . Between the birth and the completion lies EVOLUTION. Hiccups in evolution do not stop the evolution. The functioning of the heart is the same. It processes love likewise - if its in the right direction, then, with very test it grows and grows rock solid and stubborn.

Vicky,


I don't know reason why you had to project this absolute clarity , though I can imagine...you wrote it all...

Too good!👏



Thank you. Reason being that i feel like rolling my eyes when people behave as though they were born with a degree in love-o-logy. We are nobody to decide how a sentiment should be. Every person has a different story and so is his/her perception of love.😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Loved your post...totally agree that both asad and zoya are completely acting acording to their characters...i too believe that tanveer has given asad absolutely no reason to doubt her while zoya has given him plenty...and ya love evolves with time and i think that is why i don't want a confession so soon an i think that is what CVs have in store for us where asya's love will evolve through all the ups and downs

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