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Posted: 14 years ago
#51
Poco what an amazing post.🤗
I SO AGREE to all your quotations.
There is a vast difference between the Real Actor And the character he/she plays.
I recently read one of Pakistani Actor's interview, he has done films first and then serials.So he quoted that when he did films no one had great fan following but when he came to serials, people started loving him more.In simple words and gestures, he wanted to convey the fact that we see these characters, same faces everyday for about 28 minutes, and since these characters are open book for us, we try to manipulate their characteristics with the person who is playing the role, since both owe the same face, and there we make them our favorites, deny their negativity and only look at their positive aspect considering them the BEST and PERFECT.
However, I do not do that.Sincerely, I have no favorites as actors, I appreciate them for their acting, and that's the reason I hardly watch Off Screen interviews whether its ViRti also.But for a fact, I fall in love with the characters only.Because these characters are like open book for us, their faults, their attributes, their failures, their achievements, we have a note to all.So we know their 100% character, thus, respecting,loving a character is what we should do.

Nowadays, in the forum all are expressing their displeasure about too much of VivBiz and no Pkyek cast interviews.
Everything to an extent goes well, but when it crosses the limit, it gets irrelevant.
Likewise, there is too much of VivBiz off screen that's why all fans are frustrated.
And there is always difference of opinion.So let's just respect it and let it go.
No one can question the other 'why you have this opinion?' excluding the factor that his opinion is right or wrong, that's up to that person.
The main message I always want to convey when these baseless arguments are going on is that Some like VivBiz and some like ViSu.So its fine if ViSu fans strike for having their interviews without involving VivBiz because that might rather hurt VivBiz fans.And according to rules, VivBiz discussion isn't allowed also.

But as you said in the concluding lines, that its neither justified.Everyone likes one or the other actor.I rarely fall for actors.BUT I like 2 of them that also Pakistani actors.Disliking them just because of few negative attributes wouldn't be right because we all are humans and they are as well.But too much of fandom, and when a Star is right still supporting him/her seems not fine to me.

Likewise, Constructive Criticism is also necessary in every field.

Okay, I am going too deep into the topic.But I really love debating, expressing views about such certain interesting topics. 😳
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Posted: 14 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: Pocahontas


Thanks sweetie. Don't be upset. Fandom is emotional, impulsive and judgy. Happens. Actors make mistakes , fans make mistakes - and we just find a common bridge sooner or later.😃


thank you for the sweet reply...you know poca, im really not a fan of ANYONE...im just trying to be practical...and i argue things in practical way...and i understand people's frustration for not getting proper interviews of leads...i totally understand their feelings but with that frustration, they were pointing out towards a trivial thing which made me pissed off...
that is why i thank you for making this post so that there is no such environments in future...
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Posted: 14 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: Princezz22

Poco what an amazing post.🤗
I SO AGREE to all your quotations.
There is a vast difference between the Real Actor And the character he/she plays.
I recently read one of Pakistani Actor's interview, he has done films first and then serials.So he quoted that when he did films no one had great fan following but when he came to serials, people started loving him more.In simple words and gestures, he wanted to convey the fact that we see these characters, same faces everyday for about 28 minutes, and since these characters are open book for us, we try to manipulate their characteristics with the person who is playing the role, since both owe the same face, and there we make them our favorites, deny their negativity and only look at their positive aspect considering them the BEST and PERFECT.
However, I do not do that.Sincerely, I have no favorites as actors, I appreciate them for their acting, and that's the reason I hardly watch Off Screen interviews whether its ViRti also.But for a fact, I fall in love with the characters only.Because these characters are like open book for us, their faults, their attributes, their failures, their achievements, we have a note to all.So we know their 100% character, thus, respecting,loving a character is what we should do.

Nowadays, in the forum all are expressing their displeasure about too much of VivBiz and no Pkyek cast interviews.
Everything to an extent goes well, but when it crosses the limit, it gets irrelevant.
Likewise, there is too much of VivBiz off screen that's why all fans are frustrated.
And there is always difference of opinion.So let's just respect it and let it go.
No one can question the other 'why you have this opinion?' excluding the factor that his opinion is right or wrong, that's up to that person.
The main message I always want to convey when these baseless arguments are going on is that Some like VivBiz and some like ViSu.So its fine if ViSu fans strike for having their interviews without involving VivBiz because that might rather hurt VivBiz fans.And according to rules, VivBiz discussion isn't allowed also.

But as you said in the concluding lines, that its neither justified.Everyone likes one or the other actor.I rarely fall for actors.BUT I like 2 of them that also Pakistani actors.Disliking them just because of few negative attributes wouldn't be right because we all are humans and they are as well.But too much of fandom, and when a Star is right still supporting him/her seems not fine to me.

Likewise, Constructive Criticism is also necessary in every field.

Okay, I am going too deep into the topic.But I really love debating, expressing views about such certain interesting topics. 😳


Thank you so much for replying, sweetz.😳...i love how easily and how smoothly you've told the fandom's attachment to the character and its mixing with the actors. True, very true - we fall in love with the character and the actor portraying it often turns out to be a disappointment, usually.Not their fault , either.😆...as for Vivian and Vahbizz , all will be cool if they stop putting their faces into the camera all the time and give fans a break. Maybe more PKYEK interviews and features minus them will make everything okay. 😳
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Posted: 14 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: Pocahontas


Thank you so much for replying, sweetz.😳...i love how easily and how smoothly you've told the fandom's attachment to the character and its mixing with the actors. True, very true - we fall in love with the character and the actor portraying it often turns out to be a disappointment, usually.Not their fault , either.😆...as for Vivian and Vahbizz , all will be cool if they stop putting their faces into the camera all the time and give fans a break. Maybe more PKYEK interviews and features minus them will make everything okay. 😳



No problems.It was pleasure replying to your topic.
True.They shouldn't mix up real and reel.I get bore of too much of my favorite couples interviews also.🥱🥱So likewise, they also should show themselves to the limit allowing ViSu and cast interviews.
The talk is No less, No More, but balanced.If a thing is less, it gets affective.If a thing is more, it gets affective too.But when its balanced,everything is at peace, no questions, no queries, no dis-satisfaction.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Okie..first i always read and admire every post of yours. I really always wanted to comment but sometimes I'm either too lazy or I'm out of words..

First your post gave me a knock on my head.

Personally I'm a crazy buff behind actors and the glam world, I've always admired actor, ACTUALLY SEEN DREAMS BOUT THEM (I know I'm totally crazy..but its something i cant stop).
Gosh! you should check my room wall its full of posters..


you know your post reminds me of my mum!! she keeps on telling that I must not take these things to my heart..etc etc(in a much more emo way..but the same what you've written in you post)


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What I am going to say here may sound rather harsh , insensitive and cold but its important and just a small effort to stop fans from hurting their own feelings , hurting each-other and believing in things and people who are not even real.

Hmm..now finally to your post..every word that you've said is true. its not really harsh..but truly its an eye opener for most of us (i hope at least after this i could get a control over myself!!😕) yeah many of us hurt ourselves and our friends who are very much real for these fans who just exist just as a character they play in a show which works on THE IDIOT BOX!!!
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What drew you all to PKYEK or for that matter what draws your more to any book or any show? THE CHARACTERS. Each fan here has loved Abhay , Piya, Misha, Kabir, Pancchi, Sid, Raichands , Ruhi, Angad. The fictitious characters they meet everyday for 22 minutes . Vivian, Sukirti , Priya, Vishaal, Siddhant, Vahbizz ' they all come much later. In the language of art & culture , they are just 'artists' who give flesh and blood to characters that are bigger than them . They are employees doing a 9am to 10pm job or a 2am to 2pm job on a salary.

its true that its Abhay, Piya etc are the reason behind all of us going nuts for this show, but don't you think for a childish 15 year old, who doesn't even sound like a 15 year old and a person who lives in a fantasy world its impossible to understand these facts what you've mentioned!!😵
like i try my best to keep away from myself being carried away but i just can't!!😵
I know that what they do is to earn their bread and butter but my heart doesn't accept this fact!!
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All these bunch of people have no connection to you 'infact , if you look at the overall picture , they don't even exist for you ' they are not a part of your real life.

hmm..I know they don't even know that a person like me exists or no, but..
I'm trying my best to accept this fact. That was the main reason i use to never visit any forum topic except the High Priority one's. Its just recently that I've started reading and expressing my views cus..I'm really bad at such debate convos cus i land up fighting which i..seriously don't want to do..
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The only connection that these actors have to us is through the CHARACTERS they play. Their job is to entertain you , look good, act good, take the pay cheque and just go home. Fandom is just an additional perk of this show business. We, as an audience , have a connection to what is real to us ' the characters we fall in love with ' often mixing the reel sweetheart with the fallible human-being playing it.

We crossover from the character to the actor who is just a regular guy/girl doing their job . And in most of the cases , they disappoint the fandom by falling short of the standards that the fandom has set for them. Even more disappointing , is often the harsh reality that your 'star' is perhaps , merely stardust. But we don't see their faults ' we don't believe their faults ' we find comfort in the delusion that the actor really is as larger-than-life as the character he/she portrays. The fact is ' THEY ARE NOT.


agree with every word you've mentioned here!!😊

and i promise to try my level best to sink this in my head and heart..Mama promise!!😊
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You want to be a fan? Please, be. But not of the actor who becomes another person as soon as the camera rolls and the director says 'action'. It's the character you love and for you ' THE CHARACTER IS THE ONLY REAL THING. Rest is neither your world nor your business.

Don't feel bad when the actors you love let you down and turn out to be lesser heroes or even lesser human beings . Don't fall in love with them just because they look adorable, give great interviews and tell you how much they love you. Don't judge them when they look like dwarfs in comparison to the larger-than-life characters they portray. Don't hate them when they are totally different people in the dark. If you want to do anything , applaud their skill as an ARTIST. That's it and that is how it is meant to be.

yes i do wanna be a fan, but i really adore them in both ways. On screen as well as of screen!!😔
I guess I'm just too kiddish to sink these facts in!!!😭
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It doesn't matter to your existence how viscose Vivian's romantic history is or what kind of a human being he is. It makes no difference to the show that you love whether the cast members hang out together or not. It is none of your concern why Vishal and Tabrez only 'visit' the show. How should it bother you how Vahbiz handles her relationships or her life? Your life is too important to waste playing tic-tac-toe thinking what Vivian and Sukirti's equation is. You have better things to do than wonder about why the cast doesn't get any pictures clicked together anymore. Its not for you to think that why is Priya Wal staying in a show where her talent is being wasted. You should just shrug it off with a 'Siddhant' grin.

hmm..this one Gosh! I've always tried not to comment on VivBiz but this whole PKYEK forum is just discussing bout them.
see i know it doesn't make any difference to them(actors) but it does make a difference to us fans! All we ppl wanted was a joint interview of the lead pair WHICH CREATES TRUE MAGIC WHEN TOGETHER ON SCREEN!!
that's all we hell don't have any interest on how Vivi feels for Vahbbiz or what is her wish list if she goes on a holiday with him..
All we wanted was equal attention to be given to the whole team of PKYEK which is somewhere down the line getting sidelined because of the overdose of PDA shown to us!!
we wanted media attention to be given to each of the member's of the cast eg. todays SBS segment..it rocked!!😊
and i truly agree that Priya is a Fab actor and she is just wasting her talent being in this show!!

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I just request you to avoid actor-posts , avoid camping for these artists and not hurt the REAL each-other for them. This forum, the friendships that you have , the laughter that you share , the thoughts you exchange are a million times more REAL than all these Vivians, Sukirtis , Vahbizzs and Siddhants.

agreed! but sometimes you need to remove your frustration!

like we too are humans and there's surely a limit to what you can handle!

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If it was possible, I would say that we should just stop discussing artists on the forum and stop giving them all the footage and weight age that fandom gives . But that is neither possible nor justified , so I can only ask everyone to exercise restraint.

hmm..its easy to say but very much difficult to preach!!
and i guess I'm gonna stop coming down to the forum cus when i see thing i feel like answering and when i answer all goes wrong!!
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but don't worry this is not cus of you!😊
its my very own decision..cus I've got a very, a really bad temper which i don't loose but when i loose the worst in me comes alive!! and i seriously don't want that cus of me the peace of this forum..would be disturbed!!
I sometimes tend to take these posts to my heart!!

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Don't ruin the friendship and affection you have for people who exist because the TV in your house exists.
this is the best line of the whole post!!
i really liked it! a SUPER DUPER LIKE FOR THIS LINE!!

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GOD!! it seriously feels great after removing out all those thoughts that have been running in your mind!!
LAST BUT NOT THE LEAST A SUPER THANKS FOR SUCH A LOVELY POST!!👏🤗
Sorry if any of the comments or any of my feelings have hurt anyone esp. you Poco!!

Nidhi..😉

Edited by scorpion_queen - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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hey poco, where are the trps, last week also they were not updated, plz update them if possible, i am eager to know the trps!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Awesome post Poco
I didn't care who the lead dated so when an article is posted about Vabhbiz I'll read it. The the minute I start reading it I wind up cursing myself, cause it won't have anything about her or the character she protrays only her relationship and the same with Vivian. I don't watch Wassup TV cause is alway's the same people which I have no interest anyway's so it doesn't matter.
I'm in the USA and right now I can't even watch my local news without them talking about the Royal Wedding 😔 and let me tell you I want to scream everytime they air the segment.
I'll do the same thing I do with the celebrity couples here ignore them. Therefore I won't read or comment on anything not relating to PKYEK and Abhiya.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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wow poco!!
this is a wonderful post that ive read in.. i guess ive never read this kinda post before.. and this one was so needed in the forums...
after every member leaving the forums coz of their personal probs.. and the personal probs wer- the other gang loving some other actor more, bashing and defending.. this was one major reason y i cldnt come here much..
and one thing am so glad tht u got it here..
"WE ALL HAVE A LIFE!" ND AM SURE A BETTER ONE THT WE CAN WASTE IT BEHIND PPL WHO DONT EVEN KNW US PERSONALLY

hw have u been doing nitica?
currently am catching up with ur ff.. kaafi chut gya tha😆so much to do ki time hi ni milta :P
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Posted: 14 years ago
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it wasnt harsh at all
it was an awesome post

luv u for posting
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Pocahontas


Thank you so much for putting in your valuable input, Chillz,👏 I see where you are coming from and I totally agree with you. Yeah, Vivian and Sukirti's personal lives ,may not matter to fans but fans want to at least see their interviews as professionals. There is nothing unreasonable in that and as a fan , its an unsaid right as well. Its just a fandom demand and not prying into their personal lives.

Thanks for understanding, Poco. This is not exactly where I'm coming from but it's where every AbhIya fan is coming from, those who acknowledge that AbhIya wouldn't have been the same had ViSu not being playing them. On a personal level, I'm tired of waiting for an interview. Like I said somewhere, I've not given up, I've let go. My only problem is that other people apart from Vivian and Vahbiz also exist and should be covered as well. And if ViSu is one of them, nothing like it because end of the day, I still want it.

Your last lines sum it up well and they should be engraved outside all the make up rooms of all PKYEK artists at least. The actors need to understand that they cannot make a spectacle of their personal life and not expect the fandom not to react or comment. They cannot take advantage of the fandom to make anything and everything they do acceptable and above all, they cannot force the fandom to whistle at any and every kind of behaviour they display. Fine , they respect your decisions but you cannot force them to accept their decisions by rubbing it in their faces. Vivian and Vahbizz appeared cute and sheepish when they had gotten together but this paparazzi like media coverage and plain absurd affection display ( which is the case with many other telly couples ) makes them not only divert the limelight from the show but also takes away a certain respect and privacy that a man-woman relationship is supposed to have.

Honestly, 100 people say 100 things. If Vivian and Vahbiz are happy with each other, they really shouldn't worry about what fans think about their relationship. Likewise, fans also have no say in their personal life. However, this is under a scenario when their personal life stays personal. Everyone's not accepted them as a couple, harsh but true. And if they keep publically rubbing it in their fan's faces that they're a couple, fans will get irritated. And just because a particular fan is happy for VivBiz and has accepted their relationship doesn't necessarily mean that they 'like' the couple. They're still fans of ViSu and SidBiz and prefer them over VivBiz any day.
Again if I talk on a personal level, I have no complaints with getting 3 VivBiz IF interviews in a month. I don't even ask them to reduce it to 0 or 1 or 2. In fact, they can rise it to 4, 5, 6 for all I care but am I asking for too much when I say that with those 3 VivBiz interviews a month, give me only one ViSu? Or only Sukirti? Or Priya? Or Vishal?
Oh about other telly couples, I so agree with you. There are many but then, their on screen life is covered as well...


Anyhow, enough debates. Lol! I'm not really all that bothered anymore about this, frankly. Plus, I got Sid, Suku, Vishal and PW yesterday so right now, I'm only rejoicing that. Hopefully, one day, I'll get them on IF as well 😃

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