Parallels of Aarthi and Yash's characters - Page 2

Originally posted by: NightStarr

Hi everyone!!! You can call me start as the name says or mursy whichever you like 😉

Ok so I was busy with stupid exams and start the show with everyone else BUT I am all caught up with episodes now so here is a little something what I think'

First of all can I just say that I love the pace if the show: its not too fast where it seems like its missing things and its not slow as a snail's pace- it seems perfect at the moment as we are seeing both character's history and at the same time seeing the kind of people they have become based on the situations they have been presented with.

A few facts:

1. Yash's wife name Arpita and Aarthi's name both start with an A 😳

2. Arthi has a son and Yash has two daughters opposites to what they could deal with

3. Yash's sister seems to be the bad guy of the show (so far)😈

4. Yash's kids have no problem with a new mother coming- In fact they are asking when a new mother will come😊

5. Both Yash and Aarthi need each other in their lives but Yash needs Aarthi more contrary to societal believes ( will discuss this)

6. Aarthi and her mother in law's relationship is one of the bright aspects of the show

7. Both Aarthi and Yash's families seem to be on the modern side- Aarthi's family more so than Yash's family but his is not all that orthodox either ( loved Aarthi and her mother- in law both changing into night gown/comfortable cloths for sleeping- my biggest problem with other shows where they sleep a ton of make up and double that jewelry) I agree, I really never understand why these people sleep with heavy sari and ornaments ON? Isn't it irritating? I can hardly breathe when I wear this kind of heavy sarees and Jewellery...Though I have worn sari for only 3 times...😆

8. Both Yash and Aarthi are super protective(or overprotective) of their children and would do anything for him Hmmm, I just LOVED that part, especially, Yash...He was amazing as father! LOVE him! 😳

9. Yash will have a hard time accepting Aarthi because he loved his wife but I think Aarthi will have an even harder time accepting Yash because while she might still love her ex-husband but the betrayal overshadows that love and she will have trouble accepting any man in her life after that because she doesn't trust them L

If anyone else can think of anything that I forgot to put up here please tell me! 😊

Now about Aarthi and Yash needing each other in their lives- what stood out the most to me is it seems like Yash needs Aarthi in regards to his children more than Aarthi needs him contrary to societal views that Aarthi needs a man in her life. While both parents are important in a child's life, even though Aarthi's son wants his father and thinks all the gifts given to him is from his father but that too is Aarthi's doing as even though the father was piece a s**t for leaving them she still gave her child a portrait of a perfect father who gives his son anything he wants. I love the fact that Aarthi fulfills anything her son asks in his letters. Now in regards to Aarthi needing Yash in her life and a father figure in her son's life- they do need him and I am not saying they don't need him but its not because Aarthi can't handle everything on her own contrary to what society would believe so. She needs Yash in her life because her son needs a living breathing father figure in his life and she needs a life partner in life to share her life with him.

Yash on the other hand NEEDS Aarthi in his life but mostly for his daughters. While Aarthi seems to have things under control in regards to her house and working outside- Yash doesn't have that. He doesn't have things under control at his house because even though it has been years since his wife died he still hasn't accepted that fact and been there for his kids. His kids are left to be carried by his mother and sister-in-law and its true that their nice people but they could never be a mother to those kids and that's something he could never change. He told them if they can't care for his kids and leave them to servants to tell him and he will take care of them himself- but he hasn't even learned how to brush his daughter's hair properly and he has been caring for her for the past three years.

I found this very interesting because the society we live in we often think that a woman with a child NEEDS a man but Aarthi has proven that she doesn't need him for the traditional role of working and feeding the family but rather needs him as a companion and Angsh a father figure.

If you actually made to the end of this post of me yuping and yupping😆 then I applaud you 👏

Do tell what you guys think!!!

Love Star😊

Originally posted by: Samanalyse

Great post!

As far as Yash needing Aarti more than the other way round, I agree to some extent but I believe there are certain factors to be considered here that make Yash's situation more difficult than Aarti's and why it is unfair to judge him for being unable to care fully for his daughters. This is what I wrote in the episode discussion thread yesterday (which everyone is welcome to jump in on, btw www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2799809&TPN=6) and I want to share it here also because I think it is relevant and sort of adds to and builds on what you outlined so clearly in your post.

Yash and Aarti are both single parents with children of the opposite sex who are looking for a father/mother figure for their kids but this is where the similarity ends. I mean we can say that Aarti is coping much better with her son than Yash with his daughters but there are a few other factors to consider.

1. In Aarti's case, there are three adults for one child. That takes the burden off Aarti considerably as we saw today when her MIL asks her to go change while she feeds Ansh. On the other hand, Yash is the only person who is entirely responsible for his girls as all the other family members have other duties as well. So here it is one adult for two children.

2. As Laxmi pointed out in her take, the women of Yash's house don't seem to allow him to take care of his kids, even if he wants to. He is dealing with the hair situation as best he can (how will he learn if he doesn't do these things?) but his bhabi and his mom intervene and whisk the girls away. Then the next thing he knows they are being carried, maybe not in the most careful way, by Rampyare who is threatening to slap them and his bhahi is nowhere to be seen! You can kind of understand where his frustration stems from as on the one hand they won't let him take care of his kids and on the other they don't take full responsibility. It really has nothing to do with Rampyare personally, as he later confesses in his self-talk but he basically has to do nothing short of throwing a tantrum and carrying his kids off to get his family women to back off and let him take care of them.

So he doesn't just need a mother for his kids for the obvious reasons but also to reclaim his children as his own in a way. Thinking about all this I can imagine how much he misses his wife because on the one hand he knows he can't go on much longer with his family acting the way they do, but he also can't think of anyone else as his wife. So he has to find a woman who is willing to only be a mother and not a wife.

For Aarti it is much easier to care for her child as society sees it as natural for her to do so while Yahs has to face gender stereotypes which constantly keep him from interacting with his female children. So I do agree that Yash needs Aarti but I think the reasons for which she needs him are equally deep-seated though maybe not so physically obvious.

Yes, Aarti can fulfill her son's needs in the letters but there are deeper reasons for which Ansh writes the letters than just wanting those toys or whatever he asks for, ie to feel the presence of a father in his life. This is where Yash comes into play. If you think about it, there is a danger of Ansh being spoiled because of Aarti's overwhelming guilt. I mean his nakhras of not listening to her, sleeping in his inners, are cute at his age but what about when he gets a little older. Aarti asks her MIL, whether she has ever roka-toka-ed Ansh, implying that she hasn't as though it is a sign of her fulfilling her duties, but isn't control a parent's duty at some level as well as providing what the kid wants/needs? What do you do when he asks his papa for a laptop or an Iphone or a car in a few years? This is clearly not a sustainable model. I think here Yash will come into play, his presence in Ansh's life pacifying Aarti's overwhelming guilt and thereby controlling her material overcompensation for the lack of a father.

Originally posted by: Samanalyse

@enchanted: Exactly!

Also I think children are heavily influenced by their surroundings and the people they spend time with, especially at the age these children are at now, where they tend to imitate everything they see. I get the feeling that Ansh has picked up the fact that his father is not talked about openly in the family which is why he has his "secret" relationship with him or perhaps this was even Aarti's idea to fill the void of a father in his life. In any case, the kid has learned that father is compartmentalised into this place in his life that exists only in letters and presents. Like you pointed out, he is also an only child who lives and spends time almost exclusively with adults so he is bound to be more mature for this reason as well.

On the other hand, Yash's kids have varying influences around them. Kids pick things up really fast and I am sure they have heard their female relatives talking about how much they need a mother and how Yash doesn't know how to take care of them (as this seems to be a hot topic at their house) and they are to some extent parroting what they have heard, imitating their grandmother and aunt who they probably spend most time with. And unfortunately Yash is not really given a chance to prove them wrong. Also, they spend most of the day with each other so they are still very much little children and not as mature as Ansh and not as close to their father as he is to his mom. Also they are able to see what a mother is (through their chachi) and feel more keenly the lack of one while Ansh is relatively content with his "dad's presence" as he doesn't really have another model to compare.