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Posted: 12 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: jjj123

You told you dont watch the episodes.On what basis you are calling Omaksh a servant??He is Raj's friend and tennant of the Jakhotias.i did not know if someone is leaving on rent then he is the servant of the owner.What the TM is saying you justified that by saying Divya was responsible for Sarita's condition.The TM was general in her views.She said most of the people blamed either Sarita or Divya not Raj.You just did that by putting all the blames on Divya.The back story is never shown.So how can you say Divya left without explanation.When she met Raj after 10 years Raj did not ask her why she left.Also Sarita and Sheila knows why Divya left as she mentioned when she went to Divya's haldi.Another thing does not Divya need any happiness in her life??As per today's episode she moved out of Raj's house and also broke up with Gaurav.Now what?? Will she remain like tulsi forever to give happiness to others?? I think people want this.And if she remains like that still people will blame her..

That was a mistake based on my reading of the WU to which I present my sincere apologies! And I presented my views in the manner I felt comfortable AND in the way I perceived the post (and of course past experience in the forum itself), you need not translate anything for me! (Although i do appreciate you trying) I did not put the blame on anyone, next time read my comment properly! But I will summarize for your over-imaginative brain- Divya was at fault for not telling Raj and in a way leading him on for 10 years! (That was her only mistake)! Sarita was at fault for staying with a man for 10 years despite him making it clear he did not want her, and of course in introducing the Divya angle back) And the biggest wrongdoer is RAJ!

PS! Divya clearly has still been hanging on a ray of hope of getting Raj back! so she is responsible for her own position too, as she herself made it plainly clear she doesnt want to find happiness because her past is still very much alive in her# so in that sense, she has herself to blame! No-one is asking her to be a Tulsi, she is choosing that all by herself! You can only find what you want, if you go out of your way in doing so! (Something Sarita has done and am glad, she has expressed her desire to move on!- although it took her 10 years of humiliation to come to this conclusion)

Next time try and be open minded- and not read something based on your own biased perspective! Didnt mean to offend!😃
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Posted: 12 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: ruchisahay

I am not exactly a feminist but I agree completely that Raj is more at fault than the two ladies and I have stated that in almost every post I have made so far 😊.

I completely agree that Sarita's sticking to this marriage is more a result of social conditioning than lack of support or money. But it's still not the right thing to do. I sympathize with her completely but do wish she was stronger and more courageous.
I don't think Divya can walk out of a relationship anytime just because she 's financially independent. Walking out of a relationship is never easy for anyone. And society is not forgiving either just because one is a career woman. A close friend of mine - a brilliant researcher, financially and socially secure - went through a divorce and she literally hid herself in her hometown (not working nor socializing) to deal with emotional trauma and social stigma.
Coming to fans of Rubina, I understand their viewpoint. They were lured to this show on the promise that it was Divya and Raj's story. But in the show, not only Srishty shared equal screen time, her chcracter's suffering was also more obvious creating a lot of sympathy for Sarita and support for Raj-Sarita. Actually PH promoted the show using more popular and saleable faces and slowly added Srishty to promos after she gained some acceptance from the viewers. So initial promos were misleading and for fans waiting impatiently for Rubina's next show, the actual polt was actually a shock.
Last, let's please not judge the forum members if they call Sarita or Divya stupid - these are fictional characters and all of us are far more judgemental with them than we would be with anyone in real life.

@underlined : exactly !! There have been before too threads where they have said against forum members .Every member has different opinion for characters and they will say that .Also its not like there are no threads for sarita's sympathy .And if its the talk of fault ,May be there is less attention on raj's fault but reason is not that they are saying sarita is at fault but bcoz there are two female leads and comparison is going on every time between divya and sarita .

Regarding feminist ,Everyone has different reason to watch the show. Some watch for story some for just entertainment and some for actors but it never means that you make joke of others.

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Posted: 12 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: HaRiSKh

I don't agree with u on one thing that is now a days serials reflects our society?

Clearly our society has bigger problems than love affairs and saas bahu probs...


HA HA !!
so true !! Have we ever seen triangular rectangular love affair in real life which is actually in every show now .There will be hardly any show left without it .
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Ok as u say why are most of us against Sarita if what happened to her happened 50 yrs ago than it is understandable that she has no other option but to stay in this house --we really don't know what kind of parents she has except per her say they are rich --so why stick around ?when she knows Raj does not love for 10 yrs she could not persuade Raj

So start blaming Divya -- Divya was not even in Bhopal to influence Raj in any way --going to Divyas haldi ceremony ?

And now she wants to be balidaani ?

Agree about Raj -- all of a sudden his caring for a human being emerges what was he doing for the last 10 yrs living with blinders on his eyes ?

Also one more thing about Raj --- he was emotionally black mailed to marry as I think he once said forgot what sorry --was it about the buisness or his father ?

Now yes I am one of those who is a great fan of Rubina --but how can any one be against Divya ---she broke up with raj to care for her young family --yes she should have told Raj why she was leaving --and being a young naive girl assumed Raj will wait for her ---at least she tried to bring Sarita and Raj togather as she believes in the marriage institute

And the main reason lot of Divya Raj likers wanting raj and Divya to gather is because before the show started it was promoted as Divya and Rajs love story ---but from day one it has been just Saritas story

No offence just my 2 cents


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Posted: 12 years ago
#35
To everyone here, I did not mean to hurt anyone, but everyone defending Divya there is no need to, as I have not said anything about Divya.

Also to the person who said our society is not just saas-bahu dramas and we have bigger problems, that doesn't even make logical sense, a show can still be a reflection of societal ideals even if it focuses on certain situations primarily.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: deepa1122

Ok as u say why are most of us against Sarita if what happened to her happened 50 yrs ago than it is understandable that she has no other option but to stay in this house --we really don't know what kind of parents she has except per her say they are rich --so why stick around ?when she knows Raj does not love for 10 yrs she could not persuade Raj


So start blaming Divya -- Divya was not even in Bhopal to influence Raj in any way --going to Divyas haldi ceremony ?

And now she wants to be balidaani ?

Agree about Raj -- all of a sudden his caring for a human being emerges what was he doing for the last 10 yrs living with blinders on his eyes ?

Also one more thing about Raj --- he was emotionally black mailed to marry as I think he once said forgot what sorry --was it about the buisness or his father ?

Now yes I am one of those who is a great fan of Rubina --but how can any one be against Divya ---she broke up with raj to care for her young family --yes she should have told Raj why she was leaving --and being a young naive girl assumed Raj will wait for her ---at least she tried to bring Sarita and Raj togather as she believes in the marriage institute

And the main reason lot of Divya Raj likers wanting raj and Divya to gather is because before the show started it was promoted as Divya and Rajs love story ---but from day one it has been just Saritas story

No offence just my 2 cents



When you love someone , you always want to think that someday they will come around
And that's what sarita must have assumed
An incomplete marriage , who would want it if she didn't love raj enough to wait for him?
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Posted: 12 years ago
#37
First of all people need to understand that it's a public forum & everyone can share their point of views. Personally I don't like Divya's character and I have my own reasons for that. Same goes with Sarita also. If someone is not fond of her character, she can express it. I started to watch the show for it's story not because I am fan of some actor/actress. So it doesn't bother me too much about who is getting more screenspace who is not.
Raj doesn't deserve Sarita, not even Divya also. He is such a spineless character. I am just feeling awful to think that CVs gonna make Raj fall in love with Sarita. Introduce a proper main lead for Sarita, and let her be happy in her life. Just can't digest Raj with Sarita. He never supported her, didn't care about her feelings and now he is gonna fall in love. This is such a hell crap story.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#38
friends,

A gentle reminder not to stereotype/generalize any particular fan group for their views/likes. No fangroup( Rubina/Sristi) is superior to another. Please be tolerant of each others views and defend in a healthy manner.

PV ENU Dev Team
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Posted: 12 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: JulieD

Great post. But you answered your own post with the line about people watching for their favourite actor/ actress.

I am sure that had Rubina been cast in Sarita's character, then people's opinion about her remaining in the marriage for ten years would have been different.

excuse me...
I am sorry, and this is the first time I am seeing u on this forum
Yes agree there are lot of rubina fans here...
but we people are also searching for faults in Divyas character, not only in saritas character...
and if ever truly Rubina would have taken Sarita's character, then we would have blamed sarita equally because, when we see them on screen, its not rubina or shrishty whom we see...
its Divya, sarita whom we see,
and for ur kind info, so far this forum was a bit peaceful , with our fight between fan groups. please don't start any such things by pointing at any actress or fan group
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Posted: 12 years ago
#40

Originally posted by: _innocent_

PS! Divya clearly has still been hanging on a ray of hope of getting Raj back! so she is responsible for her own position too, as she herself made it plainly clear she doesnt want to find happiness because her past is still very much alive in her# so in that sense, she has herself to blame! No-one is asking her to be a Tulsi, she is choosing that all by herself! You can only find what you want, if you go out of your way in doing so! (Something Sarita has done and am glad, she has expressed her desire to move on!- although it took her 10 years of humiliation to come to this conclusion)

Next time try and be open minded- and not read something based on your own biased perspective! Didnt mean to offend!😃

excuse me...
for the one in bold... can I ask u a thing, if divya truly wants to get Raj back then she need not help sarita that much and she should have easily got her back, from the day one, as soon as she came to know that kamla wants to get his son remariried if she gets back the one whom he loved, then only she should have said that I am the one. because at that instant she knows that Sarita was rude, and disrespectful, she was not knowing any thign about what happened in ten years then.

for the one in blue...
She didn't choose it by her self, I hope u follow the story line carefully, its Sarita who interrupted Divyas marriage rituals and asked her to marry after correcting her life, and solving her problems
Divya never became tulsi on her own.

for the one in red...
yes, she made herself clear,, but she was truth ful and was not going to spoil others life there... in that way she was much more better than Raj and yeah... she loved a person, and some times, one can't move on, even if it takes her life time. she realised it, thats why she was not trying to hurt any one, either its gaurav or some other.



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