Another debate! was sanyo justified? - Page 6

Originally posted by: minnie2308

OMG.what a cool topic.
Ok debaters, here I come and hope I'm not late!

I shall not talk about versions here....whether Sagars version or Raso version,
the point is daughter choosing her own life partner.

And no, I may sound harsh, but I dont feel parents are doing any favour to us by fulfilling our dreams!
I guess most of us here have not really graduated to parenthood yet.....
I always felt indebted to my parents until I became a parent myself.....
Now I know I can never repay my daughter for bringing the immense happiness in my life. The least I can do for her is make sure she stays happily ever after. That's my take on a very personal front! 😳


Now for the debate:

One good and bad thing is they were all celebrities of
that era-JC, PRC and Sanyogita.So what they did dearly
affected the masses. I am refering to the war that
ensued as an aftermath of the Swayamvar. So here its
not just about 2 families,it's about 2 kingdoms!
Considering this view their action was not justified. 👎🏼 ya well said as a Maharaja i must say its even PRC's fault not only sanyo's. even he knew what will be the consequence of his action.

I do not agree to the argument which says
why sacrifice a lifetime of love(from parents) for
a new found love.Then why do parents marry off
their girls and send them to a totally new house to
spend the rest of their lives with (sometimes) an almost unknown person. 🤔 hmm so true dear. they just always say especially in movies 😉 that ladkiya praya dhan hoti hai😆. to ek din to jana hi hai why not with the one she likes as u say

As a father(of that era) what would JC look for in sanyo's groom? Should be a gr8 king and have good personal terms with him......(in those times daughter's compatibility with her life parter was of least concern) ya girls were never given priorities of there will. it was a male dominated society alway. they were just something to bait on
Whether the history version or the Sagar's version, both the PRC's are over-qualified over the requirement 1 and didn't fare well in the 2nd one.
JC was not even thinking about Sanyo's feelings, whether she wud be happy with any other king? Those who say she did not know PRC well(as per history), should also remember that she didn't know any other kings present in the Swayamvar!! wow that is awesome point 👏
She had to leave her father's house in any case after marriage....why not with the person she liked?
She decided to not sacrifice her whole life to boost her father's ego. JC was no less-he actually
insulted her daughter's love by putting PRC's statue at door as a doorman?why? vola 👏 yes he did he only cared about himself. evil creature. If he loved his daughter so much as every one says he would have always consider her happiness before his and not done this kind of low act.
As a woman Sanyo was justified in my opinion 👍🏼 yes she has hats of to ur points 😳👏👏

And last but not the least......even Shri Krishna eloped with Devi Rukmani on her marriage day(even they had not met before marriage).....So u see even God would want us to live a happy life.👍🏼 ending has to be happy aur else it is not the ending. story abhi baki hai😉😆

wow bulls eye point 👏
nishana hai dil pa
ki dil pa hai nishana 😉😳😆

Originally posted by: minnie2308

OMG.what a cool topic.
Ok debaters, here I come and hope I'm not late!

I shall not talk about versions here....whether Sagars version or Raso version,
the point is daughter choosing her own life partner.

And no, I may sound harsh, but I dont feel parents are doing any favour to us by fulfilling our dreams!
I guess most of us here have not really graduated to parenthood yet.....
I always felt indebted to my parents until I became a parent myself.....
Now I know I can never repay my daughter for bringing the immense happiness in my life. The least I can do for her is make sure she stays happily ever after. That's my take on a very personal front! 😳


Now for the debate:

One good and bad thing is they were all celebrities of
that era-JC, PRC and Sanyogita.So what they did dearly
affected the masses. I am refering to the war that
ensued as an aftermath of the Swayamvar. So here its
not just about 2 families,it's about 2 kingdoms!
Considering this view their action was not justified. 👎🏼

I do not agree to the argument which says
why sacrifice a lifetime of love(from parents) for
a new found love.Then why do parents marry off
their girls and send them to a totally new house to
spend the rest of their lives with (sometimes) an almost unknown person. 🤔

As a father(of that era) what would JC look for in sanyo's groom? Should be a gr8 king and have good personal terms with him......(in those times daughter's compatibility with her life parter was of least concern)
Whether the history version or the Sagar's version, both the PRC's are over-qualified over the requirement 1 and didn't fare well in the 2nd one.
JC was not even thinking about Sanyo's feelings, whether she wud be happy with any other king? Those who say she did not know PRC well(as per history), should also remember that she didn't know any other kings present in the Swayamvar!!
She had to leave her father's house in any case after marriage....why not with the person she liked?
She decided to not sacrifice her whole life to boost her father's ego. JC was no less-he actually
insulted her daughter's love by putting PRC's statue at door as a doorman?why?
As a woman Sanyo was justified in my opinion 👍🏼

And last but not the least......even Shri Krishna eloped with Devi Rukmani on her marriage day(even they had not met before marriage).....So u see even God would want us to live a happy life.👍🏼

Wow Minnie kya javab diya hai. U r forcing me to rethink. I ll tell my views later (sochne ke baad😆 abhi dimakh kaam nahi kar raha hai.)

But one thing Krishna eloped with ruk bcoz, her bro was forcing her to marry someone in sanyo's case it was not like that, kitni freedom mili thi usse Jaichand se. She should have said naa......... "Mein shaadi karungo toh sirf Prithvi se varna kisise bhi nahi, Jai maan jata,shayad, he was very kind to her."

wat happing here....theres a prob yaar cant view more den 5 pages.... 😭

Originally posted by: sanniya

wat happing here....theres a prob yaar cant view more den 5 pages.... 😭

well try this :

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Originally posted by: minnie2308

OMG.what a cool topic.
Ok debaters, here I come and hope I'm not late!

I shall not talk about versions here....whether Sagars version or Raso version,
the point is daughter choosing her own life partner.

And no, I may sound harsh, but I dont feel parents are doing any favour to us by fulfilling our dreams!
I guess most of us here have not really graduated to parenthood yet.....
I always felt indebted to my parents until I became a parent myself.....
Now I know I can never repay my daughter for bringing the immense happiness in my life. The least I can do for her is make sure she stays happily ever after. That's my take on a very personal front! 😳


Now for the debate:

One good and bad thing is they were all celebrities of
that era-JC, PRC and Sanyogita.So what they did dearly
affected the masses. I am refering to the war that
ensued as an aftermath of the Swayamvar. So here its
not just about 2 families,it's about 2 kingdoms!
Considering this view their action was not justified. 👎🏼

I do not agree to the argument which says
why sacrifice a lifetime of love(from parents) for
a new found love.Then why do parents marry off
their girls and send them to a totally new house to
spend the rest of their lives with (sometimes) an almost unknown person. 🤔

As a father(of that era) what would JC look for in sanyo's groom? Should be a gr8 king and have good personal terms with him......(in those times daughter's compatibility with her life parter was of least concern)
Whether the history version or the Sagar's version, both the PRC's are over-qualified over the requirement 1 and didn't fare well in the 2nd one.
JC was not even thinking about Sanyo's feelings, whether she wud be happy with any other king? Those who say she did not know PRC well(as per history), should also remember that she didn't know any other kings present in the Swayamvar!!
She had to leave her father's house in any case after marriage....why not with the person she liked?
She decided to not sacrifice her whole life to boost her father's ego. JC was no less-he actually
insulted her daughter's love by putting PRC's statue at door as a doorman?why?
As a woman Sanyo was justified in my opinion 👍🏼

And last but not the least......even Shri Krishna eloped with Devi Rukmani on her marriage day(even they had not met before marriage).....So u see even God would want us to live a happy life.👍🏼

Minnie, Beautifully said 👏 👍🏼👍🏼

Originally posted by: bhuvana3

Minnie, Beautifully said 👏 👍🏼👍🏼

👏 minniee Darmilg u Rock...........i also support sanyon decision........but i really luv da way u comment......👏

Okay now I come in !! 😛

Since most of u support Sanyo, I am opposing 😉

Well while I maintain tht marrying a person whom u love is not wrong at all.. 👍🏼 but there is a right way of doing everything. 🤓 The means is more important than the end. Sanyo was madly in love with Prithvi but she need not have adopted the drastic measure of eloping, making her father lose face and ultimately leading to the downfall of Delhi

Sanyo could have done the following.

1> Talk to her father herself. Since history says tht Jaichand was a loving and reasonable father there is every possibility that he would have agreed.

2>Mailed Prithvi to officially approach her papa with a proposal.If he loved her enough he would have done that.

I can state and support my stand that Sanyos elopement was the singular act that led to a permanent rift between Kannauj and Delhi.. She was not any normal gal. as a princess though she had every right to fall in love it is very important for her to have acted with diplomacy and better since.

Sanyo Prithvi union could have led to friendship of kannauj and Delhi and would have made Delhi stronger and would have destroyed Ghori and his intentions but it only made the kingdoms battle and led to Indias downfall.

ok my take is she was not justified and somewhat justified in elopping with prithvi 😆 😆 😆

samaj mein aaya 😆

but i kind of hope that the sagars twist the hist some more and poor anas does not need to carry the new sanyo sorry dont know her.........coz in her pics she looks very heavy 😆 😆 😆

Originally posted by: kirantarani2007

ok my take is she was not justified and somewhat justified in elopping with prithvi 😆 😆 😆

samaj mein aaya 😆

but i kind of hope that the sagars twist the hist some more and poor anas does not need to carry the new sanyo sorry dont know her.........coz in her pics she looks very heavy 😆 😆 😆

Lovely to see u post after ages Kiran 😛🤗

Originally posted by: bhuvana3

Okay now I come in !! 😛

Since most of u support Sanyo, I am opposing 😉 No friend, u should read the initial pages...there are many who dont support Sanyo's actions(perhaps rightly😕)

Well while I maintain tht marrying a person whom u love is not wrong at all.. 👍🏼 but there is a right way of doing everything. 🤓 (true) The means is more important than the end.(hmm.here u talking like Prithvi!But offcourse.u r Prithvi-Goddess Earth, that's what ur name means) Sanyo was madly in love with Prithvi but she need not have adopted the drastic measure of eloping, making her father lose face and ultimately leading to the downfall of Delhi agree

Sanyo could have done the following.

1> Talk to her father herself. Since history says tht Jaichand was a loving and reasonable father there is every possibility that he would have agreed. Jaichand was a loving and reasonable father, but an unreasonable enemy and egoist king.He knew about his daughter's infatuation (wont call it love, coz they hadn't really met, but, in those days when most marriages happened without love element, infatuation was reason enough) to Prithvi.We should remember this father daughter confrontation on matters of love in that era, may not have been that congenial😵

2>Mailed Prithvi to officially approach her papa with a proposal.If he loved her enough he would have done that.(hmmmm .who knows she might have done that and he might have done that) Dont agree with u on this one👎🏼 He actually knew she wants to marry Prithvi. he should have invited him to sawayamvar

I can state and support my stand that Sanyos elopement was the singular act that led to a permanent rift between Kannauj and Delhi.. She was not any normal gal. as a princess though she had every right to fall in love it is very important for her to have acted with diplomacy and better since. yup...I too agreed with this one

Sanyo Prithvi union could have led to friendship of kannauj and Delhi and would have made Delhi stronger yeah and would have destroyed Ghori and his intentions probably but it only made the kingdoms battle yeah and led to Indias downfall. probably

I still feel she had no option but to run away with the man she loved, coz let us keep in mind JC and not our friendly 21st century dads, with whom u can discuss such things over a game of chess !! me in purple