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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: April2007




This girl side and boy side tussle is ancient in our country! Our scriptures do not warrant it but we can safely trust society to distort all that is good in our heritage to suit its own selfish interest.

All I say, if a boy is allowed to be selfish and think about himself and his family, then so too a girl, can be allowed to be healthily selfish without causing death and damage to the rest of the world!

Actually, this change towards a better perception and treatment of women is a very gradual one. Imagine, at one point of time we Indians actually burnt widows on a pyre and those who resisted this practice were considered mentally deficient! It was the norm that a girl had to sacrifice herself at her husband's pyre, and today we say that it was wrong. Similarly, all the incorrect perceptions about woman's duties and rights will undergo a sea change and our society will learn to truly learn to respect its womenfolk and consider them human beings at least.

I myself am a North Indian girl who got married to a South Indian Brahmin boy and I have not given up my identity at all, and have always enjoyed what is good in both Hindi and Tamil culture. It is much more fun like this!

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Posted: 14 years ago
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I am not sure where the discussion is taking us now.... but I agree with all you guys that a girl should not forget her identity!! But I just have a question.... If a girl is trying to fit in her in-laws culture, then does it mean that she is forgetting her identity??
In this case Mona is still herself but all she is trying to do is fit in the gujrati culture. I dont think she is not being herself. She is still how she was chulbul si.
And About her not knowing about what to do after marriage, I think its just that she never thought of it from that point of view. Usually, when a girl gets married (arrange marriage) she dont know much about her hubby or in case of love marriage they know everything. So its easier to take the marriage to different level. But I feel like the case is different here. Mona and Anukalp were very good frens. They were always in a comfort zone where they could say anything to each other. So, I feel like Mona is still in the same comfort zone, so never really thought of taking their friendship to different level as they both love each other now! Its not like she dint know what consummating or anything!! She knew about it but its just that she never thought of doing it with Anukalp.... So I still think She is NOT shown Dumb.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: kutegal

I am not sure where the discussion is taking us now.... but I agree with all you guys that a girl should not forget her identity!! But I just have a question.... If a girl is trying to fit in her in-laws culture, then does it mean that she is forgetting her identity??

In this case Mona is still herself but all she is trying to do is fit in the gujrati culture. I dont think she is not being herself. She is still how she was chulbul si.
And About her not knowing about what to do after marriage, I think its just that she never thought of it from that point of view. Usually, when a girl gets married (arrange marriage) she dont know much about her hubby or in case of love marriage they know everything. So its easier to take the marriage to different level. But I feel like the case is different here. Mona and Anukalp were very good frens. They were always in a comfort zone where they could say anything to each other. So, I feel like Mona is still in the same comfort zone, so never really thought of taking their friendship to different level as they both love each other now! Its not like she dint know what consummating or anything!! She knew about it but its just that she never thought of doing it with Anukalp.... So I still think She is NOT shown Dumb.

Just answering the bold..
Nothing wrong with fitting in, everybody tries to fit in but at the same time the boys family should also try to adjust. Boy doesn't have to leave his family is very comfortable in their bosom in his own house, the girl has to give up her parents and her home, it is very tramatic experience for her, but as somebody said in India girls are not consider human beings.
As I have said adjustment is two way street..In this case the family is bad mouthing Punjabis and look down on them in Mona's presense. I will feel very very insulted if my in-laws bad mouth my parent or my first family particularly within my hearing distance.
Anybody who has gone to high school and taken biology courses have good idea about human reproduction system..and role and male and female..it is dumb to reach 21 and not know this basic biological science.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Good post...But after the next ,i think CV's might observerd this..so they opened eyes of Mona😎
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Nothing wrong with fitting in, everybody tries to fit in but at the same time the boys family should also try to adjust. Boy doesn't have to leave his family is very comfortable in their bosom in his own house, the girl has to give up her parents and her home, it is very tramatic experience for her, but as somebody said in India girls are not consider human beings.
As I have said adjustment is two way street..In this case the family is bad mouthing Punjabis and look down on them in Mona's presense. I will feel very very insulted if my in-laws bad mouth my parent or my first family particularly within my hearing distance. Exactly my point, So are the in-laws dumb or Mona???
Anybody who has gone to high school and taken biology courses have good idea about human reproduction system..and role and male and female..it is dumb to reach 21 and not know this basic biological science. Exactly, did mona ever said that she dint know wat reproduction was....??//? NO she just had no idea on what to do to take the marriage to different comfort zone coz she was Happy the way they were!

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Posted: 14 years ago
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I so agree with whatever you said starz4me.... especially about girls not knowing what to do after marriage!! Same thing happened to my cousin as well..... its not that my cousin din know what to do but its just that she din know how to approach or raise the comfort zone!! You cant just dive in you know........
I feel like every girls goes through this as well coz they are shy may be 😳
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Posted: 14 years ago
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India is very diverse, from traditional to very modern. I don't see confident Indian women the way Mona's is portrayed.

I fail to understand your need to call me deary sarcastically like Phui does in the show...it is clear your culture and background is very different than mine, you don't agree with me so be it..
Edited by April2007 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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India is very diverse, from traditional to very modern. I don't see confident Indian women the way Mona's is portrayed.

I fail to understand your need to call me deary sarcastically like Phui does in the show...it is clear your culture and background is very different than mine, you don't agree with me so be it..


As starz4me said earlier " no matter how modern an indian girl is......she is always rooted to the culture......and traditions............she always tries to be a good bahu........"
I think instead of indian women being modern, their in-laws should be modern to adjust with bahus.... Only then the girl is going to feel confident like your talking about .How is a girl going to survive in a place where everything is new to them without her adjusting?? ( is the question I would like to ask) especially if they are married in different culture than the one they grew up in!!
Edited by kutegal - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I am not sure where the discussion is taking us now.... but I agree with all you guys that a girl should not forget her identity!! But I just have a question.... If a girl is trying to fit in her in-laws culture, then does it mean that she is forgetting her identity??
In this case Mona is still herself but all she is trying to do is fit in the gujrati culture. I dont think she is not being herself. She is still how she was chulbul si.
And About her not knowing about what to do after marriage, I think its just that she never thought of it from that point of view. Usually, when a girl gets married (arrange marriage) she dont know much about her hubby or in case of love marriage they know everything. So its easier to take the marriage to different level. But I feel like the case is different here. Mona and Anukalp were very good frens. They were always in a comfort zone where they could say anything to each other. So, I feel like Mona is still in the same comfort zone, so never really thought of taking their friendship to different level as they both love each other now! Its not like she dint know what consummating or anything!! She knew about it but its just that she never thought of doing it with Anukalp.... So I still think She is NOT shown Dumb.
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@bold...When it is a new culture for the girl, it is also a new culture for the in laws. So the onus to fit in or adjust should not be only on the girl. That is the mindset prevalent not just in the show but overall too. Adjustment is made out to be some sort of compulsion only for the girl, which is silly!

Mutual adjustment is more practical and results in all round happiness.

Edited by Mulan08 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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The show in the earlier days showed Mona to be very confident, carefree and smart till she decided to go out with Goldie when she did not have a clue what dating means. Brought up in this age in Delhi and going to college, so in actual she may not have been that smart socially. At least that is what they showed. It was the first contradiction.
Mona decides to get married, I do not know for what. She did not have the vaguest idea what getting married means, and I am sure that is not very smart. Now comes the cookig part, she was brought up in a family with a lot of ladies and it seemed she never went to the kitchen in her whole life. That was another contradiction.
After gettig married Mona does not know how to consummate in marriage. Sweety talks to Mona and all of a sudden she knows a lot. I guess?
The earlier Mona performance was very good with innocence and carefree attitude. I was not sure if the earlier Mona could emote, but she did a good job in emoting the last couple episodes before she got replaced.
The new Mona character changed a little bit although she is still innocent, loving, very funny but sometimes smart and other times not too smart. She is trying her best to keep everybody happy. Inspite of the contradictions, the show is still beautiful with Sara giving a perfect performance espcially her comic timing is excellent.
The concept is very good showing 2 cultures with innocense, conflicts and finally romance but certain things not very realistic.
Edited by beetaurus - 14 years ago

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