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Posted: 14 years ago
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Gr8 post Tan.u need an applause 4 it👏 very wel said i really loved yes episode

gr8 reply by everyone, lovely emotions showed by K even he is just a normal human

being ful of emotions

even I loved Arushiiiya expression give her time she will outshine


But i fail to understand why P is behind the shakti 2nd marriage we all kn its illegal & blaming

him .............................


but d real culprit is amam she has to find why he took this drastic step??????????????????

whatwere his motives /intentions behind this I wish CV clarify this soon






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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: waniya_fatima

very well written buddy .once agian👏

well sathya i will start with your words that are balancing relationhips....so my focus will be upon that thing only.
leave the rest complaints....this lady hasnt learnt to keep all her loved ones happy at the same time... why is that so? what is the main reason....
..she comes from a different universe Fati ...one cannot explain her inability to see the world with all its sahi and galat otherwise ..I am preplexed by the fact that she is unable to process the fact that right and wrong will co-exist in a person ..and there cannot be a right and wrong person's

yesterday i saw a helpless krishna a man who has been defeated by his own love who has been suffering since too long and no one is noticing, a man who has been supporting his love without questioning her, a man who has always given an impression that he is all alone in this world, a man who has started believeing that there is no relation for him.
honestly speaking for me the show isnt about pratigya's sufferings its about krishna's sufferings....
to what extent the lady is gonna test his patience? there is a limit to everything and this limit has been croseed by her now. enough is enough.... time has come for pratigya to realise that she cant take this man for granted now.... what she has done for him till now??? probabaly i am having weak memory so anyone quote some incident....
for me her characters is having many flaws and the biggest flaw is she didnt know the true meaning of love yes i would say this she is not in love with krishna she just claims that she loves him but in reality she doesnt know the true meaning of love.

Pratigya is fulfilling her wifely chores ..and her love is not unconditional...it comes with few clauses .



FatI,


Thats why I lub ur views..it is refreshing Clap


Pratigya has a thick hide and a certain smugness that she is right and hence other's shud fall in line...never once does she stop to think whether the persecuted wants the same thing that Maidamji wants ..it is galat and it has to be set right ..it doesn't matter if the victim prefers to be with Galat..AngryAngry..but Pratigya wants sahi to be done and it will be done at the cost of victims happiness...

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: kriyaconsumesme

Krishna...if he thinks that there is one educated bahu who is getting along with the family and starts compaing Aarushi with Pratigya then I would have to say that he is plain blind or dumb. If he can not see the difference of behaviour of his parents towards Aarushi and Pratigya since the day one then I dont know what to say anymore. I dont blame P at all for not being a GOOD BAHU as she has not got good inlaws but has got monster-in-laws who dont leave a single chance unturned to insult her😡...in fact i would give it up to P for still being respectful to them. And moreover K also knows that A seeks revenge on P and still thinks A is good bahu then I dont know what to think about him.
Though I would say about P being not a good wife. She needs to pay more attention to K for their relationship to sustain in this junglee family. But having said that, P is the only person imp. to K always. he doesnt care of anyone else around him dies as long as he and P are safe and thats y we get to see his love for P more than often and on the other hand, P can not turn bliind eye is any one is suffering in front of her. its just instant instinct to her that person out. She cant help it. which I dont think is a bad thing at all. but in doing so, she forgets sometimes that she has a other life as a bahu and a wife as well. though for the BAHU part, I am not concerned at all as those people do not deserve her except dadi and kesar. but in a wife department, she has to work quite hard😕.
but Krishna needs to think about being independent too. I mean this is the heights. I feel at times that does he have self respect or not...I mean he lives under a roof with the people who have openly taunted him and his wife for every other reason, I feel for a guy not to even react to such situation is very hard to fathom...he needs to be a man very soon to earn some respect from his family as well as his wife😳.
Anyway...both have flaws and need to work on it but as of now I sincerely hope CV's are going somewhere with the current track and with the aweful journey, we will be rewarded with some logical and decent outcome😊.



EXACTLY MY POV....BOTH HAS CHARACTER FLAWS.... My Q is if we can accept K with all his flaws....,then why can't we do the same with P n give her our love.
But personally my fav character is K too...i lub him to the core.....but I also love his undying love for P...... I want tht to be retained, n there i got hurt yest by his silence..whn everybody mocked P....Like whn amma mocked like p, I was like....go into the tv set n bang her...😡😡😡😡😡😡
K knows from day one...tht P is a girl who just cannot even leave a puppy unattended... Its her character n he loves her for tht.
Being a good bahu is what ??? doing allthe house cores all day n just be silent whn they do all crimes????
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Aeryn

Very well written post tanthya.

Pratigya has always been like that and that's part of the reasons why I've never liked her. I don't blame the Thakurs you know. Maybe it can be said they were harsh and this behaviour was uncalled for but what they said was the truth. Pratigya has never tried to mingle with them, tried to see their POV and has never respected them in the true sense nor has she ever considered them as her own. Whereas Thakurs have tried to accept her in the beginning (well maybe not Thakurain who had fastly caught on the reluctance of prats to commit to the marriage thus depriving her son of a happy married life and in that sense I can't blame her either 'cause she has the right to dislike prats for that from a mother's POV).
I don't understand why K is always expected to support prats on whatever she does. As if he doesn't that means he is not a good husband, he doesn't love her 😲 K is also a human being who has feelings and those feelings deserve to be respected as well. P has never been considerate of K's feelings and has always been oblivious to the weight, stress she has put on him due to her behaviour. Her marriage is always last on her priorities, till when can a man put up with it?
That said I also blame K for this situation as he has never tried to make P understand his POV as well as his family's, never called P on her behaviour and in fact has always very vocally come in between to defend her, clean her mess and take the collateral damages on himself.... K has forgotten all fairness to become a good spouse and has often been seen being disrecpectful to his parents....that needs to change IMO. Both P and K have to learn to balance between their respective parents and their spouse...



That is quite true..Aeryn..I agree with the points u have raised ....
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Awww Tanths - you da boss woman! No one but no one on this forum write the way you do - superb as always and always the voice of sensibility - love you girl!🤗
Big up to all the contributors and posterwas on this thread because the passion is evident! 👏
What I have to say is nothing new particularly, but yes I'm loving that the flaws and cracks are showing, am loving the fact that some reality is beginning to creep into this show insofar as relationships go...
Since the day K set eyes on P, their relationship has been anything but normal or even mutual.
Since P's acceptance of K, I have said it previously it is not so much that Pratigya has fallen in love with K as she has grown accustomed to him, his ways and means and understands his heart really is in the right place. I believe Pratigya does have feelings for him but that those feelings are not love, more a deep affection and trust, almost like what you have for your favourite pet.
In my opinion, when you love someone, you are passionate for them also and that passion with which P has no problem in garnering for truth, justice et al, she simply does not have for Krishna....yet.
P has taken his support for granted.....a mistake we all know
Both P and K have a lot of growing to so in the relationship, whcih so far has just been a rollercoaster of extremes. They need to build a core, a foundation, which will never waver no matter how extreme the situation, and to be fair, all theyve ever had since theyve come together is catastrophe after flippin catastrophe to deal with...
Sometimes you have to lose something before you appreciate its true worth....this will happen to P by the looks of things.
Charity begins at home is what they say. so P needs to make sure that part of her life is set before she jumps on any more bandwagons...
Incidentally - hate this "its all Shakti bhai's fault!" why?
sassure ne ghoda saali Argh!oosiya ke sar par dhara tha, shaadi ke liye???
Unlike some on tjhis forum, I do not pretend to know Indian Law and frankly I'm quite glad that i'm not subject to it, but if P is gonna throw Saktiya in the slammer for bigamy, she better stick her sister in with them - it takes two deary and ur sister aint so blameless.....
Ooooooh, I feel rage!!!!! time to timeout or my belna is gonna go hit someone!!!!
😡😡G
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: ramanbabitha



EXACTLY MY POV....BOTH HAS CHARACTER FLAWS.... My Q is if we can accept K with all his flaws....,then why can't we do the same with P n give her our love.
But personally my fav character is K too...i lub him to the core.....but I also love his undying love for P...... I want tht to be retained, n there i got hurt yest by his silence..whn everybody mocked P....Like whn amma mocked like p, I was like....go into the tv set n bang her...😡
K knows from day one...tht P is a girl who just cannot even leave a puppy unattended... Its her character n he loves her for tht.
Being a good bahu is what ??? doing allthe house cores all day n just be silent whn they do all crimes????



Love has to be sustained and nourished, given importance...Love has to be taken and given from both sides ..for it to grow and deepen ..it cannot be one way street ..which is what is is in the case of KRIYA ??

Krishna loves Pratigya..no one denies it ..Pratigya loves Krishna too, after her father ofc..

Krishna knows that Pratigya is a soft hearted girl....right then why doesn't she pick onn the case of Komal...what did that girl do ?? what was her sin apart from Marrying Adarsh..so why is Pratigya not getting righteous and ordering her bro to give Komal her conjugal rights ...Right..Pratigya is flawed ..and this is one of her flaws ..that she is always blind towards the subtle atrocities committed by her family ...Ok we accept that ...similarly why cant one accept the fact ..Krishna is used to this atmosphere , the taunts , humiliation's are happening for generation's and will happen ..so he doesn't give a damn about it for he know underneath those insult there is love .. [i am very much aware I am going of tangent..but] ..hence his non-reaction ...


Doing household chores doesnot entitle u to the title of Good Bahu ..it means u are an exemplary maid .......A Good Bahu is one who adapts to the house and accepts them and then tries to change what she doesn't like...she doesn't strike a confrontationist pose from day 1 ...Listen to SS dialogues..he will state the guidelines ...y'day when the whole of Thakurs were gathered in the hall having a chat ...where was Pratigya ??? .....in her maika..what was the urgency to go so early in the morning ?? did any fresh disaster strike ?? No..Na.. ..if she was so concerned , she could have gone in the evening with HER husband ....or if she felt so badly , then she could have phoned them, spoken to them and assured them !!whatever happened has happened , her trips will not solve the ongoing problem .. ...meanwhile she could have sat with her hubby ..chatted with them ...and if Amma had strted her works ..Krishna would have intervened swiftly and cut off the flow ...but her absence was the necessary ammunition needed for Amma , for it glaringly showed where Pratigya's priorities lay !!

y'day Pratigya was more at fault than Krishna !!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Loved your post MMG. I would have put it in quotes only this silly phone won't let me. I hope they continue to show P equally at fault and not a victim. What I don't understand is why it is so necessary to show her solving all of the worlds problems on her own. Independent doesn't mean you never need help. The best lawyers have a team to help them out.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: tanthya



FOR PARO : 😃


The Cv's deserve a round of applause for y'day's episode ..... before u begin to think whether The pathetic track has finally unhinged my mind, let me say that the round of applause is for the fact that they did not allow boredom to creep in, in what was a static episode ..More than 3/4 of the episode, All the characters were in recumbent position and all were eating ...Despite that they managed to hold us for all of those mins by showing us the faces and the emotion's flitting across the faces ....


"Your family and your love must be cultivated like a garden. Time, effort, and imagination must be summoned constantly to keep any relationship flourishing and growing." -Jim Rohn


A episode which was spent on singing paeans of Pratigya's Virtues ...Amma starts the ball rolling and she is partnered by SS and the Aarthi combo ably assist them as the chorus and we get one cacophonous song ....while Krishna listens in on completely enthralled ..


A Good episode where we see Krishna holding back and not jumping blindly to his wife's defense , An episode where Amma spits venom in a reasonable tone..An episode in which Amma did make few valid points ..An episode which served to mirror the difference between two peas from the same pod ..An episode which showed that Pratigya still has a long way to go before she is capable of understanding marriage , relationships, Husband, father and balance [-ing of relationships]


"Family life is too intimate to be preserved by the spirit of justice. It can be sustained by a spirit of love which goes beyond justice."
-Reinhold Niebuhr




Krishna's reaction : Krishna maintained a stolid front throughout the dissection of his wife's temperament , That he was in an unenviable position goes without saying ..for what Amma and SS said had a kernel of truth ..being politely spoken and showing respect without being respectful has been the hallmark of Pratigya's attitude towards them ..That she has not tried to gel with them is again true .. that she has never tried to mingle with them preferring instead to spend her free time at Sax house is a fact ...when such accusation's are thrown out and bandied about ..The normal reaction would be a stout defense of his wife regardless of the shining truth in their words ...but when this defense just glances off their armor and leads into escalation preserving a quiet front is the intelligent thing to do ...which Krishna did ...But before we shake our hands and congratulate Krishna on his intelligence..Lets us also understand that the words of Amma and SS did not vanish into thin air ..It has penetrated ..and his silence is also an tacit acknowledgment of Pratigya's adversarial behavior ..earlier he could sweep it under the banner that she is educated and from a different family than his and that would halt the Thakur's tirade ..but now he does not have that luxury ..cos there is another educated Girl and from the same family who is mingling with them and and is making an attempt to be like them, she is dutifully by her Man's side, slogs in the kitchen and maintains a charade of being dutiful Bahu ...This is noted by Krishna and it is quite natural for any sane person to wonder at the different attitude..


"To put the world right in order, we must first put the nation in order; to put the nation in order, we must first put the family in order; to put the family in order, we must first cultivate our personal life; we must first set our hearts right." - Confucius

I wonder at the necessity of Pratigya's frequent trip to Maika ..why is it needed..one view is that she went to console her parents ...I ask, cant this consoling be done over the phone ?? Alright, even if we accept the premise that she had to personally go and console them ..could not she have left after finishing her obligation as a bahu and wife ...lets not forget that Pratigya is also a wife and DIL along with being a daughter ...Just what was the urgency ?? the incident happened 4 days back..and her early morning visit will not avert or unwind what already has happened ?? could not she go with her husband in the evening AFTER completing all her duties as a wife and Bahu ...and her return..the less said the better ...She comes and without even a glance at her husband starts on her father, Father's concern, worries ...Does she even a take a second to look at Krishna and wonder why the normally ebullient Krishna who always used to rush to hug her or would start a rapid fire questioning is keeping silent ..Not only silent but has turned his back on her ....No..It does not sink into her that her cheerful , extrovert Hubby is withdrawn and morose...All she can think about is her father ...Pratigya shud remember that she is now a wife and her husband , his self -respect is paramount ..U cant expect that ur hubby will agree to be a second fiddle all ur life..Marriage doesn't work that way.One day the string may snap and tear a gash into their relationship ...

"The bond that links your true family is not one of blood, but of respect and joy in each other's life." -Richard Bach


A telling statement is made by Pratigya in course of conversation with Papa "As long as Krishna is with me ..Those PPL cant do anything to me "...Very illuminating !! ..It implies that She is aware that "THOSE PPL" do not consider her as her own ..and she is sticking there only bec of Krishna..Shud not that be a warning bell to a sanskaari Pratigya who says she values relationships..shud not she be working towards building bridges with "THOSE PPL"..After all she is going to spend her life time there and not in Sax house ... As a educated,conscientious person ..would not u work towards mending the fences ....Second Pratigya said she considers Krishna's Parents as her Apne ...then how did they become "THOSE PPL" in the conversation..doesn't it throw light on the fact that Pratigya has never accepted them with her heart but her acceptance is so, bec of the marriage and society dictums..Pratigya has to get her priorities clear and pretty fast too..cos the House of cards has begun to collapse.

Tanths - This was my feelings - your words. Every single thing that you have said is the emotion I have always felt regarding them.
I wish I could express my self in the collective way you do. When I go to put my feelings down like that, my anger on the situation gets the better of me. But I feel your emotions in this but you have put it in such a collective way. So from the bottom of my heart - hats off to you. This was just fantabulous. That's why I find peace in doing the E.A's, I put my emotions in that and twist things round to satisfy my anger and to calm me down.
@red nothing can be put better then that. Life in your family is not just about being a Justice Choudry all the time. Why is she not sending Arushi to jail. When her Papa held himself responsible for Angad's death - Whereas Adharsh could have helped save a man's life, they are not criminal in her eyes. Good Angad or bad Angad - Did he deserve to die, were they allowed to punish him, and then so mahanly criticise Krishna for brutely beating the thief.
It's high time people faced the facts that Pratigya is not what she was made out to be in the advert promo's. The day they stopped trying to compare her with the Idol they have in mind of the GREAT PRATIGYA THE MAHAN, they will see that this woman has double standards.
@blue It was a very good scene and the comparison between the sibblings was done very nicely.
Although the circumstances under which Pratz got married, she never welcomed them before the marriage aswell, hence Amma never really took a liking to her. Arushi's marriage wasn't ideal but she is making a effort( we all know the gameplay here). But if..... Amma has never really liked Kesar that much although Kesar is a gem of a bahu, Has Amma have really accepted Pratigya even if she had been an ideal Bahu? Is the thought that then comes up. If Amma wasn't siding with Arushi to serve her own purpose - Would he belcum towards her have been this warm and appreciating? So could Pratigya ever have been a good - enough Bahu for her, seeing that her Baba was so madly in love with her. Could things have been different. It would have been nice if at the begining the CV's would have shown us this side of the stort aswell instead of rushing into the hate hate relationship that they share. We could've seen the Amma's feelings and emotions better for the character of pratigya. SS in the early days used to quite like Pratigya, regardless of Pratigya's reservation towards them. But that later changed when Pratz showed that she doesn't care for Krishna. Although sax shows resentment towards komal's family and sometimes towards komal, komal still made an effort with the whole of the family, especially with sax.
@ Purple - could not have said that better. The sax's are no fools they know that Pratigya doesn't love or respect them . People will say - why should she love murderers, but I'm talking from the time before they tries to kill her or Kesar's baby.
And yes staying silent was the best thing to have done at the time.
@pink - True although we know that (Arushia is only playing her mind games) Baba doesn't know that, so it is true of course he will think about these things. very nicely put thanths, that he can no longer use education as an excuse.
@green - what more can i say - you have said it all.
Really a fantastic post tanths and a much needed one. I am glad you have said this out lous, coz it makes me feel that I am not the only one feeling these same emotions.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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tanthya chechy there was one instance where she actually said she feels bad wen people say bad abt him... in the privacy of their bedroom... wen he buys all those things for her during diwali time n his family taunts him... she was disappointed at him tat day bt he turned a deaf ear to tat, shrugged it off, said he is used to it n gave her a hug n asked her to dress up in the new sari for him... so is it logical tat he is feeling bad now??? did he need arushi in the house to understand tat?? P has been trying to get K to listen bt he doesnt or doesnt want to understand... is tat why she ends up doing all this on her own with the confidence tat K will be thr??

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Kriya shruthi so far P has only shown her displeasure w/ Thakurs ' taunting K but there is no evidence that she dislikes her family disrespecting him

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