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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: ArineI


So true Dyehard...........i understand his anger and hurt ..........but manhandling and aggression is totally unacceptable...........and it really hurts the fans to see him manhandling his beloved wife like that after saying that he cant even breathe without her .............



exactly Arine.. 👏👏 i agree..

that behavior of Krishna was wrong
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I hate to say it, Dyehard, but I Told You So.

There has been zero character development of Krishna since his marriage. Zilch. Nada.The way he reacted today is the same way he would have reacted if Pratigya had told him those same words the first day of his wedding. In the meantime, lot of water has flown under the Howrah bridge. Pratigya has committed herself totally to him, both physically and mentally. He should feel about her pain and dilemma, her compulsions and helplessness from her teary face and shaking voice. But no. He saw the sad spectacle his dad and elder brother had put up in Arushi's engagement. He knows abot Shakti's lecherous intentions towards Arushi and the ensuing slap he recieved. Is he mad because he cannot get an occasion to wear the suit as he had hoped for? ANd it's not as if Pratigya said that only she will go and the rest of the Thakurs can cool their heels. She is throwing her stock with the Thakurs.. however vile and crass they might be. Instead of appreciating the fact abot Pratigya taking up the side of her sasural for the first time he is bellowing and baying at her, when she had nothing to do with this decision. And all this for a wedding party?
If Baba showed the same sensitivity towards all those barbs about his lack of earning potential and sponging off his dad as equal instances of affront to his ego and sense of pride, we might have a seen a different Krishna by now.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dyehard



Her situation is so pathetic that it is even laugable to talk of that poor girls right. Right now NOBODY is considering her plight or happiness.

But she certainly will not kick up a fuss based on her marital ego and cause further damage to her sister's life. She is not so selfish. The poor girl has come home to face the wrath of her husband and his family rather than try to make her life more comfy by fussing with her family. That girls courage, fairness and absolute selflessness leaves me amazed! No tears, no demands, no manipulation. That girl is one straight arrow. My heart bleeds for her. On a side note, she also believe the IG has the moral right to associate or disassociate with whom he likes.

Krishna in particular is very wrong to try and take out his frustration on his wife, who is herself in a far more unhappy situation than him. If he spares a moment to look at her situation he will realise that while he is being excluded only from his SIL's wedding she is being banned from her own sister's wedding through no fault of hers. In fact if anything he should feel guilty for having put her in such a sad situation. If she had been an ordinary wife she would have screamed and ranted that her life and prestige have been smashed to dust because of marrying him and his family. But the sad part is that the poor girl is more conscious of his unhappiness than her own. K should undertsand that he is perhaps getting more than he deserves, if he continue to treat her with such lack of consideration and aggression.

So while K's sense of rejection and hurt are understandable, his unreasonable anger and aggression are totally unacceptable.



Another Beautiful post Dye.👏👏👏🤗
Nobody considers her unfortunate situation. Nobody wants to look at her background. She is also an human. Its like taking her out of Paradise and putting in a Hell. In spite of all the ill treatments from her in-laws she respects them , doesn't wish bad for them. Her tolerance, selflessness, love, pain are unmatchable.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dyehard



Yes Pooja, his IS a ruthless decision. Yes it is making life tough for the Saxes, and for Kriya. But he does not care. Because he is more concerned with his duty and image as a Police officer and he does not mind if the Saxes cut off the rishta. He has to make a choice and he has made a clear choice. How can we say that a person does not have the right to make a choice? He is also offering a similar choice to other people and it is up to them to make it. he is NOT kind, but he has a right, I am trying to make that distinction here! Have I been able to say that lucidly?😕😃

First of all Dye - superb post - you have aptly taken the bull by the horns yet again and really brilliantly described each character's stance and feelings - wonderful analysis!
However i too am faltering slightly when it comes to the issue of choice.
Having the right to choose with whom you want to associate maybe an individual's fundamental right in theory, but in real life?
What do they say about not being able to choose one's family? It's because the very nature of family means if you want to be a part of it you will have to compromise to some extent or other.
The IG may have the right to choose who he associates with, but this is hardly an arranged marriage scenario - Aman already has decided upon Arushi - so if anything Mathur senior should tell his own son he cant marry the girl of his choice over whom he arguably has some right. What right does he have to impinge or place conditions on the Saxenas?
It is that right to impose his choice that is in my opinion wrong.
Keep it up sweetheart - your posts are a real joy to read!👍🏼👏
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Relda

I hate to say it, Dyehard, but I Told You So.

There has been zero character development of Krishna since his marriage. Zilch. Nada.The way he reacted today is the same way he would have reacted if Pratigya had told him those same words the first day of his wedding. In the meantime, lot of water has flown under the Howrah bridge. Pratigya has committed herself totally to him, both physically and mentally. He should feel about her pain and dilemma, her compulsions and helplessness from her teary face and shaking voice. But no. He saw the sad spectacle his dad and elder brother had put up in Arushi's engagement. He knows abot Shakti's lecherous intentions towards Arushi and the ensuing slap he recieved. Is he mad because he cannot get an occasion to wear the suit as he had hoped for? ANd it's not as if Pratigya said that only she will go and the rest of the Thakurs can cool their heels. She is throwing her stock with the Thakurs.. however vile and crass they might be. Instead of appreciating the fact abot Pratigya taking up the side of her sasural for the first time he is bellowing and baying at her, when she had nothing to do with this decision. And all this for a wedding party?
If Baba showed the same sensitivity towards all those barbs about his lack of earning potential and sponging off his dad as equal instances of affront to his ego and sense of pride, we might have a seen a different Krishna by now.



Very well said.👏
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Relda

I hate to say it, Dyehard, but I Told You So.😃

There has been zero character development of Krishna since his marriage. Zilch. Nada.The way he reacted today is the same way he would have reacted if Pratigya had told him those same words the first day of his wedding. In the meantime, lot of water has flown under the Howrah bridge. Pratigya has committed herself totally to him, both physically and mentally. He should feel about her pain and dilemma, her compulsions and helplessness from her teary face and shaking voice. But no. He saw the sad spectacle his dad and elder brother had put up in Arushi's engagement. He knows abot Shakti's lecherous intentions towards Arushi and the ensuing slap he recieved. Is he mad because he cannot get an occasion to wear the suit as he had hoped for? ANd it's not as if Pratigya said that only she will go and the rest of the Thakurs can cool their heels. She is throwing her stock with the Thakurs.. however vile and crass they might be. Instead of appreciating the fact abot Pratigya taking up the side of her sasural for the first time he is bellowing and baying at her, when she had nothing to do with this decision. And all this for a wedding party?
If Baba showed the same sensitivity towards all those barbs about his lack of earning potential and sponging off his dad as equal instances of affront to his ego and sense of pride, we might have a seen a different Krishna by now.



Darn! Relda, lost my lovely long reply to you! Bah!
Will try to recapitulate. I agree, Krishna is very slow to realization, agonizingly slow. But I think that his moral retardation has been forced upon the CVs by his own fans who refuse to acknowledge his lesser inadequacies. Now they have been force to up the ante of his inequities by his own fans who will not chide him for less.
Two - I was trying to understand the depth of his frustration at not being able to offer her anything beyond sex and the occasional word of love or support. She has nothing else from that marriage in that household - not respect, not congeniality, not erudition, not culture, not fun, not freedom, not even a glass of milk is hers to take. He wants to give her something in exchange for her love. She has given him mentally, physically, socially. He has NOTHING to offer her in exchange. Ok Understood. But when is he going to spot crying in frustration and inadequacy about that and start assuming responsibility?

But his reaction time in taking action is abysmally slow. 😕

But I have to confess at the risk of sounding hopeless, I do not yet despair!😃

I remain as ever,

Dyehard😉




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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: vishp



Another Beautiful post Dye.🤗
Nobody considers her unfortunate situation. Nobody wants to look at her background. She is also an human. Its like taking her out of Paradise and putting in a Hell. In spite of all the ill treatments from her in-laws she respects them , doesn't wish bad for them. Her tolerance, selflessness, love, pain are unmatchable.



Unmatchable INDEED 👏, The difference that is becoming so evident now. He deserves a slap to his thinking to realize the sacrifices she is making for him and that too without rubbing it on his Thakur nose.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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excellent post beutifull analsis pratigya sitution

always my heart goes with her the way she handles and support s excellent she ignore her happiness but ready 2 give other happiness

she is simple ,down 2 earth girl
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Madmadgirl

First of all Dye - superb post - you have aptly taken the bull by the horns yet again and really brilliantly described each character's stance and feelings - wonderful analysis!
However i too am faltering slightly when it comes to the issue of choice.
Having the right to choose with whom you want to associate maybe an individual's fundamental right in theory, but in real life?
What do they say about not being able to choose one's family? It's because the very nature of family means if you want to be a part of it you will have to compromise to some extent or other.
The IG may have the right to choose who he associates with, but this is hardly an arranged marriage scenario - Aman already has decided upon Arushi - so if anything Mathur senior should tell his own son he cant marry the girl of his choice over whom he arguably has some right. What right does he have to impinge or place conditions on the Saxenas?
It is that right to impose his choice that is in my opinion wrong.
Keep it up sweetheart - your posts are a real joy to read!👍🏼👏



Thanks again MMG.
Yes many think his stance is ruthless, I think so too. It puts his own son in a very difficult position. But the IG is a very ruthless man. Anything will be sacrificed at the alter of duty, type o guy.
But he has as much stake in the wedding as the Saxenas. He is not a guest but the co-host. If he is seen cohorting with the most wanted character in town, claiming a relationship, name being linked, photographed etc (absolutely no doubt SS will milk maximum mileage!) his reputation and credibility with be shot to smithereens. A man in his position has to be very careful. So he has a say in who gets invited.
But of course the Saxes have the right to refuse. Aman has a choice. To refuse the sharth or ask his father not to come. All very unhappy choices. He will hope that things don't come to such a stand... Lets see.
So while he is not being particularly nice with the Saxes he has the right.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: SaacheeSyna



LOL...even I am surprised 🤣

u r surprising me day by day..............ROFL don't behave soo much intellegently.......😆😆

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