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Posted: 15 years ago
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and yet we feel embarrassed to follow our heart and adopt/ adapt to that culture, even if it is alien to us...!!why don't we uphold our culture...is it because we fear being ridiculed??



I love this discussion. Culture is a shared, learned, symbolic system of values, beliefs and attitudes that shapes and influences perception and behavior -- an abstract "mental blueprint" or "mental code."

Our beilefs are shaped by our environment and upbringing. With exposure to the outside world through life's experiences or formal education we have an opportunity to observe a much bigger world out there. Yet our inner world decides what we will or won't or can't adapt too bec' of our self-imposed limitations in our minds. All it takes is a willingness to learn something new, try something different while being aware of the pitfall of being judgmental of the unknown. Those who have self-acceptance and self-love are secure enough to not let another person's criticism or ridicule affect their choices or feelings. We fear that which we don't know or understand.

An example: A child having a public meltdown for any number of reasons with a chagrined parent helplessly trying to calm the child down. Some onlookers empathize with the parent and/or child, some get annoyed and shake their heads in judgment and believe their world has been disturbed, others openly ridicule the parents for poor parenting skills without a thought to whether there may be underlying medical cause to the child's behavior and really didn't have anything to do with the parent at all?

We let society and it's rules dictate to us what is right and wrong, good or bad forgetting that it's all up to the individual's perception. The very thing that we say is wrong in one situation becomes good in another bec' we say so. We overlook and forgive those we love but get judgmental of the ones we don't know or care for. I believe that giving up the need to judge is the first step in self-realization. A very wise relative once said "we point out to faults in others of that which we refuse to see in our ourselves." It's called projection. How true! We give to others what we are willing to give ourselves and what we hold within ourselves at any given moment. We yell at someone out of anger and fear bec' that's what we feel in that moment. We are reactionary creations by habit. An employee who can't stand up for himself with his/her boss will come home and take it out on their family.

The only real education in life is self-realization. We pick and chose what we want in life from the myriads of things out there that fits our inner world. We eat what we know we like, at times try something new and decide whether to include it in our repertoire for future reference. We do it in every area of our lives consciously or unconsciously all the time.😃
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I love this discussion. Culture is a shared, learned, symbolic system of values, beliefs and attitudes that shapes and influences perception and behavior -- an abstract "mental blueprint" or "mental code."

Our beilefs are shaped by our environment and upbringing. With exposure to the outside world through life's experiences or formal education we have an opportunity to observe a much bigger world out there. Yet our inner world decides what we will or won't or can't adapt too bec' of our self-imposed limitations in our minds. All it takes is a willingness to learn something new, try something different while being aware of the pitfall of being judgmental of the unknown. Those who have self-acceptance and self-love are secure enough to not let another person's criticism or ridicule affect their choices or feelings. We fear that which we don't know or understand.

An example: A child having a public meltdown for any number of reasons with a chagrined parent helplessly trying to calm the child down. Some onlookers empathize with the parent and/or child, some get annoyed and shake their heads in judgment and believe their world has been disturbed, others openly ridicule the parents for poor parenting skills without a thought to whether there may be underlying medical cause to the child's behavior and really didn't have anything to do with the parent at all?

We let society and it's rules dictate to us what is right and wrong, good or bad forgetting that it's all up to the individual's perception. The very thing that we say is wrong in one situation becomes good in another bec' we say so. We overlook and forgive those we love but get judgmental of the ones we don't know or care for. I believe that giving up the need to judge is the first step in self-realization. A very wise relative once said "we point out to faults in others of that which we refuse to see in our ourselves." It's called projection. How true! We give to others what we are willing to give ourselves and what we hold within ourselves at any given moment. We yell at someone out of anger and fear bec' that's what we feel in that moment. We are reactionary creations by habit. An employee who can't stand up for himself with his/her boss will come home and take it out on their family.

The only real education in life is self-realization. We pick and chose what we want in life from the myriads of things out there that fits our inner world. We eat what we know we like, at times try something new and decide whether to include it in our repertoire for future reference. We do it in every area of our lives consciously or unconsciously all the time.😃




Mera,

even I am loving this discussion...so many interesting and varied views ...

Culture is a shared, learned, symbolic system of values, beliefs and attitudes that shapes and influences perception and behavior -- an abstract "mental blueprint" or "mental code."


I would put it even more simply , Culture is a survival mechanism adapted by our ancestors to survive in a harsh environment ....Culture came about due to the strong survival instinct of Human's.

Culture made it easier for the successive generation to adapt and out wit the ruthless nature..

Culture is the selection of best method of out many options to help out the survival of humans..

I don't think it is a matter of inner world....it is a matter of survival...if a process helps you in keeping ur life and limbs intact...then that becomes our culture...

culture varies because environment varies .....in a word culture and environment are inter related ..and we are part of environment...

one cannot expect a person living in X environment to survive successfully in Y environment unless he adapts to the Y environment ...culture enables this....


and Mera, why will ppl learn when the need for survival is satisfied.... unless and until it is about their preservation ...we witnessed it when Saxenaji let go of Angad's hand...he chose his daughter's survival rather than other individual's...


Culture has many interpretation's ...and in each sphere the definition of culture changes...what I have stated is in relation to Man's Survival...


Philosophical culture will be entirely different to social culure which again be different to science culture....😃
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: tanthya




Mera,

even I am loving this discussion...so many interesting and varied views ...

Culture is a shared, learned, symbolic system of values, beliefs and attitudes that shapes and influences perception and behavior -- an abstract "mental blueprint" or "mental code."


I would put it even more simply , Culture is a survival mechanism adapted by our ancestors to survive in a harsh environment ....Culture came about due to the strong survival instinct of Human's.

Culture made it easier for the successive generation to adapt and out wit the ruthless nature..

Culture is the selection of best method of out many options to help out the survival of humans..

I don't think it is a matter of inner world....it is a matter of survival...
Achcha! Tho E bathao, ki survival ka sandesh kahaan se aatha hai? Inner world se na? The fight or flight theory for survival is monitored by the inner working of one's mind/psyche/spirit whatever you what to label it. Ka kehti ho? Bolbo!😃if a process helps you in keeping ur life and limbs intact...then that becomes our culture...

culture varies because environment varies .....in a word culture and environment are inter related ..and we are part of environment...

one cannot expect a person living in X environment to survive successfully in Y environment unless he adapts to the Y environment ...culture enables this....


and Mera, why will ppl learn when the need for survival is satisfied.... unless and until it is about their preservation ...we witnessed it when Saxenaji let go of Angad's hand...he chose his daughter's survival rather than other individual's...


Culture has many interpretation's ...and in each sphere the definition of culture changes...what I have stated is in relation to Man's Survival...


Philosophical culture will be entirely different to social culure which again be different to science culture....😃

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Mera,

What is the meaning of kohram ?? sorry will reply later in detail..am watching Pratigya...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Mera,

What is the meaning of kohram ?? sorry will reply later in detail..am watching Pratigya...



quorum you mean? Legally and politically it means requiring a mininum number of members to be present to move on with the meeting or voting, etc.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: MERARAI



quorum you mean? Legally and politically it means requiring a mininum number of members to be present to move on with the meeting or voting, etc.




not english quorum...but hindi kohram...it was there in Pratigya 2 day ...Amma says it
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Posted: 15 years ago
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SURE!!! Call it ABUSE but I cant really bring myself to compare Shakti and SS abusing Kesar and Amma with Komal abusing Adarsh!😆 And u say EQUALLY abused - as in Adarsh and Kesar and Amma?😕 Hubby abuse - maybe I am being a feminist so, compared to Krishna choking and slapping Pratigya, I fail to see how Krishna is abused! If u mean emotional abuse, then also, its not JUST hubby abuse but wife-y abuse as well coz, BOTH hurt each other emotionally, but Pratigya is being hurt and abused physically as well, so in my POV, its more of a women abuse!


You definitely can't equate Amma/kesar's Abuse with KOmal's Abuse of Adarsh..Amma has grown up thinking that a hubby beating wife is to be expected, A man will beat a woman only when he considers her as his own ..and if he doesn't beat her, then he doesn't care for her...This is Amma's thinking...So I dare say Amma will be worried if SS stops beating... As I had said earlier there are women who crave this abuse, for them this is their security blanket that the Man cares for her enough to hurt her..

As for Kesar, I am presuming [since her maika was never shown] that she has grown up watching this and although she knows it is wrong , years of watching it happen has bred submissiveness and has resigned herself to her fate...You say Krishna has choked,strangled..I would say Krishna did this in anger..as soon as Pratigya says that it is hurting her...he lets her go..whereas a true blue abuser on hearing such sweet words will derive enormous pleasure and strengthen his hold or continue strangling till she passes out..and the abuse is not one sided too..Pratigya too has abused Krishna..Krishna has taken it quietly too...

So, just coz instead of continuing like Shakti, he lets her go when she says it hurts - does that mean he NEVER abused or hurt her physically? The extent is low but is still there isnt it? I've highlighted the part where I said BOTH have hurt each other emotionally, not JUST Pratigya!


TRUE!!! I dont know IF ALL educated people consider MONEY as MORE important, but I agree, education, money and power are all important in today's world!!!
Talking about Bill Gates, now dont laugh at me, but I actually googled him and read a bit about him on wikipedia (😳)and unless the info there is wrong, Bill Gates was an educated guy and a very intelligent one in that case!!! So, dont know where u came to know that he was uneducated! It actually surprised me coz ALL that I knew about him is that he is a computer genius and is filthy rich! So, didnt really understand how an uneducated guy can become a computer genius and had to google it to satisfy my curiosity!!!😆
Back to my POINT, I think the Saxenas are NOT the type of educated bunch who thinks MONEY and POWER are MORE important than EDUCATION!!! I was talking about HOW Krishna and Komal think that EDUCATION is USELESS when they have the MONEY and POWER! And that is the effect of their LACK of education!!! Krishna believes in superstitious and is easily fooled - bcoz of his lack of education! Komal thinks that all a wife needs is a husbands love - as if, a woman/wife is not allowed to have her own dreams and wishes - thats her lack of education!


I find that interesting Limits...That you did not know That Bill gates was educated or not..[FYI, he is a college drop-out !!he went to study law but was fascinated by machines and took to computers, a new field then ..at the age of 19 he founded Microsoft...]but YOU knew he was FILTHY RICH !!so you too accept that the green colored paper that evryone calls MONEY is worth more than the 3 or 4 letter's that follows your name and the content that this 3 letters hide within themselves will be with you forever but still one judges another with the constantly fluctuating, volatile Money....
😆Ahemm... I did say that I knew he is a computer genius and it surprised me when u said that he was not educated coz how could he have been a computer genius if he were not educated,!!! Yea, thanx to my curiosity and google-search, I remember him having very high SAT scores!😛😆 And I think, completing grade 12 can be considered as having education! May be not the degrees aka 3/4 letters, but I think having knowledge until grade 12 is way better than being a 5th grade failure or a total illiterate!!!
I knew he was rich becoz of the computer stuff he created!!! SEE, even his education/knowledge about computers was behind the fact that he is rich!!!
So, I do NOT accept that MONEY is MORE important than EDUCATION! BUT, like I said b4, I agree that both are EQUALLY important in today's world!!!😉

Tell me one thing, Ruhi...why would Krishna, komal or for that matter the whole Thakurs think that Education is useful !! their Money and power has opened doors for them, the doors that are normally closed for educated ...Educated ppl have bowed , saluted and ingratiated with them..educated ppl are intimidated by them...Money and power have given them license to behave as they like and the so called educated ppl kow tow to them...why then will they miss Education, why then will they value education...if the purpose of education is get money,,,then they are rich and wealthy...if the purpose of education is to gain respect...then they already are respected ....if the objective of education was gain a status ..then they are one of the pillars of Allahabad
If everyone starts to think like that, I wonder WHY there are educated people to begin with???Confused Yes, to some the purpose of education is to get money but how can u ignore the fact that to some, education is just a medium to enhance their knowledge? To some being educated might be a medium to get respect, but u can not ignore that to some, education makes them realize their own self-respect!!! Do u seriously think people respect the Thakurs'? Why would they be called as goons then??? They fear the Thakurs NOT respect them! If educated people are scared to lose their lives and bow down to the Thakurs' guns, it does not necessarily mean that they r bowing down to the Thakurs' illiteracy! Just coz some educated folk use education as a means of gaining status, does that mean ALL educated people think alike? IF the Saxenas were pinning for status via education, wont they have easily sold their daughter to gain the same status as the Thakurs? Why would Prof. Shyam be a loyal professor instead of taking bribes and increasing his status and money?
I believe, NOT ALL educated people are like that! IF the Thakurs really believed that education is USELESS, than they wont have felt insecure and inferior about Pratigya's education!!! SS does know the importance of education and has willingly taken away that chance from his children coz he believes that education gives a person the freedom to think and he can not risk his children thinking on their own, coz then, how would he manipulate them? If Krishna were educated, do u think that he would have let his mother or bhabi being hit like animals??? No matter how much effective the upbringing is, at one point or another, he would have freed himself from the clutches of that upbringing that teaches him to treat women like animals or dolls or toys - IF he were educated!!!


Now your talk of Superstition surprises me ....according to you Krishna believes in superstition becos he is uneducated ...but educated ppl are superstitous too... don't u ever say" touch wood", don't you ever " keep ur finger's crossed", don't you say "cheers" while drinking..a lot of educated ppl consider 13 as unlucky...aren't you bothered when cats cross ur path..walking under the ladder..😆..education might have changed ur set of superstitious beliefs but it has not erased superstition
I've noticed, for every of my reason behind the uneducated, u r comparing them to educated!!! And in a way, as if ALL educated people are superstitious!!! Ummm... I never heard of 'touch wood' 😆 And I do use 'keep ur finger's crossed' , but I didnt even know that was a superstition,Confused I thought that was a phrase used to express 'I am still hoping' 😆! Same with 'cheers' - since when was that a superstition???Confused Nope, actually, when a cat crosses my stree, I laugh remembering those superstitious beliefs!😛 And I believe, education has changed NOT ONLY my set, but also that of MANY OTHERS!!! 1000s of centuries old superstitions can not possibly be erased in a mere 100 years! BUT, we still have come this far when one can doubt or choose NOT to believe in such superstitions, all thanx to education and the knowledge it provides us!!!

Krishna is easily fooled because he trusts.. Komal thinks that husbands love is be all and end all , cos she is deprived of it..once she gets love, her sight will shift to newer goal..that is human nature !!
I think the highlighted statement is VERY contrasting! IF he really TRUSTED, he wont be THAT easily FOOLED!!! I think its the exact opposite!!! Becoz he has Trust-issues, he is easily fooled!!! IF he trusts his father, then no matter what Pratigya says, he will trust his father until he sees/hears otherwise - but wat does he do when he hears/sees otherwise? Instead of confronting or facing his father, he goes along with his father saying that there is no wrong if his father wants to win the election, as if, the fact that SS is using Pratigya's father or Krishna as a tool for that, doesnt matter at all!!!
IF he trusts Pratigya, no matter what his family says about her or how they taunt him, he would only believe in what he sees and hears from Pratigya! Now, did Pratigya ever forced him into doing something??? She told him that he can force himself on her but that wont be love and he would be r**ing her - well, she told him to do as he likes BUT if that hurts Krishna's conscience and stops him from r**ing Pratigya, it doesnt mean she forced him to stop!!! Krishna stopped bcoz he still had some conscience left in him!!! When Pratigya told the Thakurs she didnt want to change her name, she didnt FORCE Krishna into standing up for her!!! She expressed her opinion and Krishna stood up to protect her - NOT coz she was forcing him into protecting her but bcoz she is the person he loves and therefore its his responsibility to protect her!!! Lolzzz...Going off topic, what I am trying to say is, Pratigya has done NOTHING to make Krishna think that she is using him!!! He does what she wants because he wishes to and not coz Pratigya wishes for him to do so!!! So, why would he NOT trust Pratigya and be fooled by his family into believing that Pratigya is making him do stuff and then, relief his anger of hurt male-ego by forcing/hurting her???
Komalilya!!! U say she lacks love??? I doubt she even knows what husband's love is coz the love of husband that she saw was SS or Shakti beating up Amma and Kesar! She calls Krishna craziness for Pratigya and his forceful ways as husband's love!!! If she were educated, she wont be thinking that husband's love decides ones fate!!!

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Binny ,

One of the pitfalls of being educated is just that ...you instinctively shy away from confrontation, Unless you are aggressive ....Education depicts aggression as a uncool thing...and also it gives us an heightened sense of ourselves...most of the time , we let ppl take advantage of us..cos we feel that other ppl may judge us harshly...Education conditions ur social behavior...we are so engrossed in looking at all points of view that our hesitancy comes across as cowardice ....

Tanthya

I disagree being educated does not force a person to be less aggressive, in fact there are many factors that come in to play which decide a person's personality besides education. A child spends less time in school and more time among their family members who they love and who teach them life lessons. That child will take on their parents personalities sometimes with several changes to better suite them. A person's personality is shaped by their ethics, values, their upbringing, cultural background, and their experiences in life.

The difference is visible in this show both Krishna and Shakti are uneducated, yet they deal with their wives differently one is more aggressive the other is aggressive but is more humane. Both were brought up similarly but Krishna was given more love by his parents hence the difference in personalities.

I also don't feel it makes one feel more superior then others if they are educated it truly depends on the situation, some individuals are educated yet lack common sense which forces them to feel inferior when dealing with serious situations. Because it's not only education but life experiences which help people learn important lessons. People learn more when they experience things first hand, yet even then they need education in order to deal with things in a proper manner.

Yes education conditions an individuals social behavior which is important because one must respect others which is lacking in the Tachurs household not only do they have no manners but they are extremely selfish they care about their own but even more about themselves. Here the saxena's are the opposite they respect others despite their behavior towards them, and they care about others well being even though they may not deserve it. Which is what bothers me sometimes but it's better then only caring about their own selfish needs, I would prefer they fought back though.




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I agree and even I said that it has to do with his upbringing BUT his lack of education takes away the chance from him to realize the fact that women and men are EQUALS!!!
Like u said, there are many educated men who see women inferior to men, but I believe there are also many educated men who treat women fairly and equally! Why do u think they do so? Bcoz they know that women have their rights and they choose to treat them equally! Just coz one is educated doesnt mean they become the PERFECT humans!!! BUT some can atleast come close to being perfect! Likewise, IF Krishna was educated, maybe his upbringing would still have made him treat women as inferior beings but MAYBE, just MAYBE, he would NOT have treated women as toys or tied cows or paan or pair ki joothi!
C'mon, why would women have NY reason to FIGHT IF men were not treating them like ANIMALS or inferiors??? And yes, BCOZ there are women who accept the abuse silently, there are still eave-teasing and women abuse among many parts of the world!!!
I think the damage becomes greater coz, its NOT just the MEN they have to fight against! Its fellow WOMEN who r also against their rebellion towards men that makes it HARDER and causes greater damage to the women who dare to stand up for themselves - be it aggressive or tactical and strategic!!!

Good !! have you read about suffragettes movement ....it was fought for equality for women..and the movement started from 1866-67 [ have forgotten the exact period 😳] and lasted until 1916-17 ... a fascinating fight for woman's right to vote, .for equality .....it happened in England...and many men supported it too.... and many women opposed it !!

the woman who fought were imprisoned, raped,molested , the women who were doing hunger strike were forcibly fed..children were separated , some were branded prostitutes,many were flogged..quite fascinating ...it shows what woman can do if they band together and also how woman is her own enemy..when u find time ..read it ...


Many educated men have read about equality to woman, Many men have read that Woman are the goddess who shud be worshipped, for she is the only individual who holds life in her womb, a soul capable of producing life ..Many Men have grown up with the dictum "All women except ur wife is ur sister or Mother" has it stopped them from ogling ? only a tiny percentage [educated or uneducated] have considered women to be on par with them ...and even tinier percentage consider women to be superior to men and to a large percentage, including educated Men..A woman is a maid,cook, Trophy and a vessel for their progeny..
May be, I am being an optimist here, or may be, I lack the worldly knowledge that Prof.Shyam talked about!!!😆 BUT, I'd still like to believe that the percentage of men who consider women as equals, is not as tiny as u mentioned!!! Coz, if it were that little, dont u think it wont be noticeable at all? BUT, even in this forum, when I was soo frustrated to think that MOST men are like Krishna, I've heard of men/husbands that are soo sweet and treat women/wives fairly!!! And I do agree that there r still men - educated or not - who think of women as u mentioned BUT, becoz the change IS visible, I sure hope that the men who treats women properly outnumbers the men who dont!!!😊
Yeah! Will read that definitely, when I have got loads of free time!!! Thanx for the information!😃

If she were educated, she would KNOW about her rights and would have the confidence to stand up for herself!!!

Being educated and knowing her rights will not automatically mean standing for herself..there will be many mitigating factors that has to be taken into consideration..first , is she financially independent,does she have kids,IS she mentally strong enough to live alone...sometimes women become addicted to abusive relationships too and crave it !!

TRUE again! BUT, being educated IS a START!!! It makes her THINK, UNLIKE without being educated, when she THINKS that being abused by husband and in-laws is a MATTER-OF-FACT and bad-luck!!!
All those other factors are very important as well! BUT, just coz those factors are NOT available, does that mean she has no other choice but to die being abused?

Being Knowledgeable and worldly wise and above all interaction with those factors beyond her domain will make her think, for when you are educated..you have the fear of getting indoctrinated to a set beliefs and ur thinking will confine itself within this set...you can try and try but this beliefs will not let go..the same way we [you and I ] are squabbling over our set of beliefs and neither one of us willing to let go ..😊

I dont agree that education confines one's beliefs and makes it limited! The underlined statement sounds sooo hopeless! IF not TRY, what can they do to let go of those beliefs - suffer till death???
Lolzzz... I dont think its the same way!!! Its not like I am not letting go! I was actually trying to see from ur POV and I succeeded in some points but failed about other points! And if it gives u ny hope, then I'll gladly let it go!!!😉😆


A susheel, polite and sanskaari person can very much be an idiot - I dont see how one being susheel and polite is related to him being a stupid???😕

We are talking education...Education teaches us etiquette ..!!😃
Ummm... Yes, education teaches us etiquette and I think the Saxenas dont lack etiquette and the Thakurs who r NOT educated DO! MY point was, how does having etiquette relate to one being stupid??? COZ, even though the Saxenas r educated and have etiquette, sometimes they act really stupid and have no self-confidence at all - but those are two different things, arent they?😕 Lacking self-confidence makes them less smart and lacking common-sense makes them stupid - does NOT make them ny less educated, does it?😕

we might consider their action's stupid, the saxena's consider it logical... I think they have self confidence , it is hobbled by their excessive anxiety to society's reaction ...yes ! they do lack common sense..don't they ..😃😕
Lolzzz... Exactly! To us viewers, their some of their actions are stupid but we can not truly understand his LOGIC, coz we r not in his shoes!!!😛
I am sincerely gonna ask u one favor - if its not too much trouble for u, can u plz tell me what is the definition of education? Would like to know ur POV on it,😊! Am off to check it on dictionary.com, coz SERIOUSLY, ever since I came upon Education-attacks on the Saxenas, I wanted to know the EXACT definition of it but was too lazy to bother! BUT, now am way too curious to just put it aside!!!😆

Ruhi, I am sincerely going to give my answer. I am searching and am still searching....😉..

The definition for Education keeps on changing ...there is no one definitive definition...that can be taken out dusted and quoted back or can be said THIS and ONLY THIS defines Education and I don't know whether there will ever be a definition for education...

Can education be confined within a defintion ??

LOVED and AGREE with the underlined statement/question! I guess NOT!!! Lolzzz.. I actually went to dictionary.com to see the definition but wont bore u with it here!😉😆 It was nice discussing with u! Am gonna let go now, hoping u will have some hope that NOT all TRIES/ATTEMPTS go UNNOTICED or r UNSUCCESSFUL!!!😃


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May be becos..educated ppl are very self conscious ....and think they know everything....while uneducated are like kids, inquisitive, curious and lacking self conscious....

lacking self confidence as well i have seen everyone confused in taking decisons regarding anything.........
saathya did u watch last epi so that would be teh reason pratigya is gona hate him agian?

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