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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: mia03

They will alway treat krishna like this and it is all about education. The little that they have, has clog their brains up. no compassion for the uneducated, how dare an uneducated cross their path, but one thing they do not know is that their daughter, sister and granddaughter, is very much in love with an uneducated boy.

Yes , very well spoken . When the stand NOT to send Pratigya back was taken , Krishna had desperately and pathetically said ........Stand by ur principles , a human beings happiness or misery has nothing to do with u . Their education has hardened them and made them foolishly egoistic and uncompromising .
The Singhs have chauvinism and ego but these guys have ego of education . What they dont know is the really educated ones never regard the uneducated as lowly .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I totally totally disagree with you ... on your calling Pratigya chaalu and saying that she used Krishna to let her stay in her Mayka there .. I do not think Pratigya had anything of that sort in her mind when she asked Krishna to let her stay ...She genuinely wanted to ask Krishna for his permission ...She is not someone who is afraid of Krishna ..

Pratigya was genuinely shocked when she found out that it has been Angad all along who has destroyed her life ... and she said in her own words "to ab tuk hum krishna ko galat samajhte rahein" .. I do not think she blatanly lied when she said to Krishna that there is nothing of that sort with Arushi .. she just do not want to get Krishna involved .. what she did might have been stupid but it is definitely not devious .. and we all know how hotheaded Krishna is ... Krishna might actually believe Angad's stories .. One should involve their husband in everything in their lives but we all know Pratigya and Krishna are not there yet ..

I do wished that Pratigya tell everything to Krishna but that makes her stupid but not wicked,devious and chalu ...

And now Saxena family ... they did not tell Krishna the truth but they did not blatanly lie either .. maybe they do not trust Krishna yet and they have reasons to do that ... just past week this Guy hit their daughter in front of their eyes and then forcibly removed her from their house .. They do not want Krishna involved in this .. Saxenas themselves have a genuine desire to see Komal and Pratigya settled in their married lives .. Their way of handling is not perfect but they have their reason for doin it ..

I also have reservation about your earlier posts that Pratigya invited this on herself by hitting Angad ... If you are trying to imply that Pratigya is responsible for Angad harrasing her , you are very wrong .. Guys like Angad do not need a reason to harass Girls .. If not Pratigya it would have been someone else .. I am so glad that Pratigya stood up for dignity which resulted in her paying a high price but if her struggle inspires two other Girls to stand up for dignity .. atleast there is a beginning .. Things like eveteasing, violence on woman would not go away if we just ignore themm.. Ignoring these cases just embolden perpetrators ... We have to stand up against it .. and it requires courage and resolve .. If other girls start revolting like Pratigya did , eveteasers will have to change .. police will have to take action .. but there has to be a start somewhere ... somebody has to show courage ..
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Posted: 15 years ago
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And one more thing . Nothing.......nothing excuses their treatment of Komal . They have given their daughter a lot of importance and dumped Komal their bahu conveniently there . Instead of telling their daughter , u made ur choice , now go and live tHERE and fight ur battles , grow up , they were encouraging her till Angad Yadav came along to live there forever . We dont see any of the Saxenas regarding Komal as an entity by herself . Adarsh married her revengefully and even on the day she left told her unfairly that u and ur bro r responsible this and that when HE had gone there IMPULSIVELY to ask her hand in marraige . I see no reason why this Professor shud speak so maliciously of Sajjan Singh that Your fault is Ur Sajjan Snghs Bahu etc ..........This is outrightly a malicious taunt .Instead he shud only talk about HIMSELF and the deeds of HIS beta.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: birju4baby

I totally totally disagree with you ... on your calling Pratigya chaalu and saying that she used Krishna to let her stay in her Mayka there .. I do not think Pratigya had anything of that sort in her mind when she asked Krishna to let her stay ...She genuinely wanted to ask Krishna for his permission ...She is not someone who is afraid of Krishna .. If she was unafraid she shud tell him the truth , pure and simple . She is NOT .

Pratigya was genuinely shocked when she found out that it has been Angad all along who has destroyed her life ... and she said in her own words "to ab tuk hum krishna ko galat samajhte rahein" .. I do not think she blatanly lied when she said to Krishna that there is nothing of that sort with Arushi .. she just do not want to get Krishna involved .. what she did might have been stupid but it is definitely not devious .. and we all know how hotheaded Krishna is ... Krishna might actually believe Angad's stories .. One should involve their husband in everything in their lives but we all know Pratigya and Krishna are not there yet ..After torturing him mentally for weeks on precisely THESE ISSUES ......The kidnapping and Nitins beating and the badnaami Why is she opting NOT to tell him the truth , does not she owe it to him ? And she shud be MORE scared of her hot headed husband finding from third party sources ..............Will the likes of Angad will stop just bcoz she verbally silences them once ?He was NOT stopped by her slap was he ?

I do wished that Pratigya tell everything to Krishna but that makes her stupid but not wicked,devious and chalu ... I didnt say she was devious or wicked .But yes this behaviour is chaalu .............very demurely pakka behaviour in which a woman cleverly omits certain facts which she DID .No two ways about it .They ALL did and they r the lecturers on TRUTH all the time .

And now Saxena family ... they did not tell Krishna the truth but they did not blatanly lie either .. maybe they do not trust Krishna yet and they have reasons to do that ... just past week this Guy hit their daughter in front of their eyes and then forcibly removed her from their house .. They do not want Krishna involved in this .. Saxenas themselves have a genuine desire to see Komal and Pratigya settled in their married lives .. Their way of handling is not perfect but they have their reason for doin it .........
Krishna is what Krishna is , his nature wont change for LIFE just as Pratigyas strong headed and impulsive nature wont change EVER . That can hardly be an excuse for Hiding the truth from him for LIFE .

I also have reservation about your earlier posts that Pratigya invited this on herself by hitting Angad ... If you are trying to imply that Pratigya is responsible for Angad harrasing her , you are very wrong .. Guys like Angad do not need a reason to harass Girls .. If not Pratigya it would have been someone else .. I am so glad that Pratigya stood up for dignity which resulted in her paying a high price but if her struggle inspires two other Girls to stand up for dignity .. atleast there is a beginning .. Things like eveteasing, violence on woman would not go away if we just ignore themm.. Ignoring these cases just embolden perpetrators ... We have to stand up against it .. and it requires courage and resolve .. If other girls start revolting like Pratigya did , eveteasers will have to change .. police will have to take action .. but there has to be a start somewhere ... somebody has to show courage ..You have got me WRONG . Nowhere in my posts have I said that Pratigya is responsible for ANGAD eveteasing her on the train .I am saying she is wrong in the way that she DEALT with it . In UP , Bihar kinda states , Mahoul bahut kharaaab hota hai . Her own Father was terribly worried from the moment he heard the facts ...he was not stupid and was proven right in the long run . U say that things like Eve teasing violence wont go away if we ignore them .....................well , she HANDLED them , did it go away or lessen or did it INTENSIFY ? Tell me that first . These social evils will always exist even if women learn karate or martial arts and fly planes .............these r the social evils that exist in every era , in every generation and are eternal .So long as Man and Woman exist on this planet this will remain .And at the end of the day , some facts dont change ..........Men will physically remain stronger than women and if raped , a womans life will be destroyed .Not the mans .he will run away to find other prey . Talking to eveteasers is dangerous and touching them via a slap is equally dangrous coz a woman has NO IDEA who she is tangling with .Some may cow tow and slink away but if they r stalkers they start hounding u . Whatever I sayts based on my personal experiences in life ...........and I firmly stand by it . All this there has to be a start somewhere etc is ok in books not in real life . In real life issues like RAPE , EVETEASING , BLACKMAILING , CORRUPTION never go away . She blamed Krishna for her troubles but it all started with that slap which made Angad go to Krishna and the ball set rolling .Till today Angad is hounding her . He is the Rahu in her kundali that she unknowingly brought home on that fateful journey from Lucknow.

My dear I think we must agree to disagree on the Pratigya issue .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Very very good post Kool. You are so right . I felt very bad for krishna today . He is bhola bhala and they are all liars , they hide things and act as if they are above everyone else ...
Feel so bad for Komal as well. Kahan phans gayi bechari.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tanyaz

Very very good post Kool. You are so right . I felt very bad for krishna today . He is bhola bhala and they are all liars , they hide things and act as if they are above everyone else ...

Feel so bad for Komal as well. Kahan phans gayi bechari.

Tanya u read it !Am so happy . I felt so bad for him today , surrounded by his lying sasural and wifey , unaware of wat was cooking .After being treated like dirt for months he desrves to know the truth .Instead he was manipulatively taken OUT of the picture by Wifey . Somehow cant like her after this.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

My dear I think we must agree to disagree on the Pratigya issue .

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Posted: 15 years ago
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birju4ever
I already stated I completely disagree with your post and that we MUST agree to disagree .
My views on reality are diffrent . My views on eve teasing as an eternal social evil are also diffrent . Some social evils can be eradicated ....racial discrimination , womens rights etc .........my point was that SOME social evils like RAPE and Eveteasing DONT go with ANY ERA. They will remain till we as a species remain .
There is no question of a woman shud NOT feel she is a victim etc . Fact is SHE BECOMES ONE . Nothing Takes that experience away , no amount of counselling and no amount of therapy . She remains scarred emotionally for LIFE and I strongly feel no woman desrves bookish encouragement but a dose of reality that if she can she shud AVOID going thru this experience . All those who say We r with u , good for u that u made the first move etc disappear within few days she is left alone with her scars . Better to ignore eveteasers instead of messing around with them and getting punished for life is my firm opinion .
Btw education was given to women In India even in ancient times when it was NOT a democracy and feudal times prevailed and women were oh so NOT in burquas .DEmocracy is merely a state of politics ..........and that is precisely my point that eras changed but eve teasing and rape remained like coiled cobras that suddenly rear their mEdusa's head .
I do NOT play with words neither do i like quibbling . I reiterate .....Pratigya is NOT devious. She is NOT cunning . She is NOT wicked either .I dont know where u got the idea that chaalu only means THIS . A word can be used in many contexts . As I saw it , the action of cleverly keeping away some facts and putting Krishna out of the picture was a chaalu move ..........Pakka move . I equate chaalu with pakka here and if u note I used this word with the whole sasural .They r NOT INNOCENT was my meaning .
U said i slaughter Pratigya not Krishna . Perhaps it is coz I have been reading for a long time how much Krishna was slaughtered in this forum . I find him very human and I like him . I dont intend to slaughter Pratigya at all .....I simply camnnot agree to the premise that a girl decides to marry her stalker to teach him a lesson via marraige is a great social message . So girls shud marry their stalkers to save their family ? Rubbish , in my opinion .And then tell them that they wont ever be given happiness for LIFE ?More rubbish and inviting DEATH . No girl shud copy Pratigya is my personal opinion and I stand by it .I am fully entitled to it .
Krishnas intervention to stop Angad WAS needed back then and will be needed later if not now , when due to Pratigya this issue festers due to her HIDING and angering Angad by one more humilating bhashan . Angad is NOT Krishna who will take her insults and leave her . He is horrid . BAD . So lets wait and see when she will need Krishna .
Lastly let us agree to disagree as our views on this issue wont match . We r running on two parallel tracks here . My views are not to change opinions of forum members but with a wish that creatives may take notice of what I say and introduce some reality checks in this serial . So U see , I fully respect ur view although it is diffrent than my own .😊
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Very good post KS.

The moment I heard Pratigya playing her Patni card, I thought...'lo ab BABA ka bhi blackmail shuru hogaya'

But I still give benefit of the doubt to Pratigya...She may tell this tomorrow after confronting Angad one on one. I would wait for few more days how she presents her case to Krishna...

I think, the reason Krishna is away from Pratigya because tomorrow, wind can blow in any direction. When everyone is expecting Krishna will come under Angad's lie, tomorrow Pratigya could be easily manipulated by Angad. All he has to say is Krishna is behind this. Period.

1. Pratigya could easily believe that as she quickly doubted yesterday if Krishna is behind this
2. Prof. jumps to conclusion that Krishna will always be at fault
3. Everybody could think that Krishna is out of SS house and he may need money.

I think, tomorrow Angad's confrontation will tell, if Pratigya has changed or she will get into testing Krishna from now on...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

What a horribly chaalu sasural poor Krishna has ! Today my heart went out to him . The way they stood there lying through their sanskaari teeth ...........so effortlessly [ as if they have been used to lying for the whole of their sanskaari life] was simply disgusting . Where the hell do the sanskaars go when they LIE so blatantly ? I thought immense rectitude and the blazing truth was their sanskaari motto .......Pratigya cud NOT lie in front of the holy fire , right ?How did she Lie so effortlessly today ? Ah ! The holy fire was not present ! I forgot !

So her lying stands r selective. For maayka people she has no problems lying ..its Krishna's bedroom secrets that she cud not keep within her . Ah ! . What was heart wrenching was Krishna's innocence . In that whole chaalu lot , he alone was the one who was talking the truth . Bluntly , as he had nothing to fear or hide , and whatever is in his heart is also on his lips . He straightaway asked
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1] Does Arushi have a love affair ? Why did she sneak out this way ? A very valid question . All Saxenas chup chaap as if smacked on the face .
2] What r u guys hiding ? So true . They r hiding , and hiding things relevant to you Krishna. And boy they are hiding a lot .
3] Is this your Patnidharma ? Very true again . Will any conservative man welcome his wife back after she returns with a sneaky look on her face , drenched at midnight without any plausible explanation ? Wud Nitin have accepted Pratigya back so easily as a wife ? Or wud Jagmohan's wife throw her out ?
4] Am I not family ? Why do u guys dont speak in front of me ?
But you know what was most disgusting ? The way Pratigya used him . The way she used his love for such a petty purpose , by lying to him . Such a chaalu way of using a pati .
Krishna who is as innocent as a male can be , flew on the highest cloud and said ok , telling her he wud come back for her the next day .Truly Pratigya needs a punishment for making a mockery of marraige and now inspite of knowing his innocence , using it this way .
Btw Madam is handling things ONCE MORE all by herself .........the slap in the train , the stalking , the satyanaash that ensued was not ENOUGH for her . And her goofy family is allowing her .
Such a hoo haa they did about lying .....now it is perfectly ok for them to lie to their bahu Komal and jamaai Krishna.
The name of the show should be BHOLA KISANWA AUR USKA CHAALU SASURAAL .
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Agreed with you....😊
It is very important that the Saxena family, especially Prats tell Krish as soon as possible before all hell breaks loose............Since Krish has been asking a number of times the reason and he has been kept uninformed .....i dont know how he will react to it especially his belief in Prats...I expected her to tell him...he is most imp person in her life. Will Thakurs keep quite after hearing this?
And even i am wondering how Prats is going to handle Angadwa by herself.....she might send him off this time, but he will strike again........
This Guruji has made a big mess of the golden situation he got to explain Krish and clear things......At least Adarsh must take Krish somewhere and tell him the whole story ....and the two can chalk out some plans..........but Adarsh loves to frown always and blame Krish......
The Saxenas need to eat the fruits of the seeds sown by them....they can be saved if Krish shows mercy...else only God can

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