confused about urmi n trisha

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Posted: 11 years ago
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in yday's episode urmi was the one who said things like "kyu shamil ho rhi ho is shaadi mein"..n "r u jealous of my destiny" to trisha n all...n next day she was shocked that trisha left...im confused as to y urmi was shocked...she was the one who wanted trisha to leave as samrat wanted this...n after saying all those things to trisha how can she expect trisha to attend the wedding...

now its certain that urmi will get married to samrat...n also that all her expectations n hopes will b shattered...poor urmi..feel bad for her

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Posted: 11 years ago
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It actually shows how naive Urmi is in this where she does not even realize that what and how she said all those things to Trishna will affect Trishna enough to leave.

And going to her Aunt and shedding tears as to why Trishna left was ridiculous.

And I do not feel sorry for Urmi because she will deserve what she will get when she finds out the real nature of the man she married.

Ishaan is also to blame in this as he has given a completely wrong impression of Samrat to Urmi by doing and saying nice things about him when the reality is completely opposite.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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urmi can manipulated so easily...she should stop trusting every one blindly...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I just watched the that episode again, and I I realize on my second watch that Urmi was carrying out Samrat's wish without naming him, as a good patni would do. I don't mean her line about being jealous, but her last two lines where she asked Trisha why she's partaking on the wedding.

Urmi is a very smart girl, and she is not some pushover but knows very well how to stand up for something. It just depends on whom and what. She will defer to her family, husband and his family, but when it comes to others she is no pushover or wilting, shy girl.

How she handled Trisha there would make her grandmother and Samrat proud. I don't know how to explain it, it's like how her grandmother was taking about her view on marriage and being a wife: deference to the husband, treating the husband as Patidev, and taking care of his izzat and all. Meaning, be cunning, smart and a go getter when it comes to standing up for your husband when the situation calls for it, but do bit for him only, not to him.

It's why the Samrat told Ishaan that Urmi is indeed a good choice as his wife, when Ishaan told him about Trisha's absence.

Urmi felt bad later not because she didn't expect that outcome, but because of the situation itself. When Trisha left, Urmi felt bad because of what happened between them, buy Urmi wasn't trying to call Trisha and apologize or bring her back. Her aunt then validated Urmi by telling her to think about herself and her husband, which was exactly what Urmi was doing.
Edited by likarsh - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@Likarsh
I agree with you. I understand Urmi very much. She is not a pushover, she handled the situation well under the circumstances.

I know Trisha meant well also, but in some ways she was not helping the situation. If Urmi decide to marry Samrat, despite what she told her, what can she do? Showing her disapproval cannot help the situation only cause more tension between Samrat and Urmi.
Urmi under such pressure would naturally ask Trisha that question.
Trisha left, because as I said more than once, she does not react with a cool head at times.

Ishaan is in one ear telling Urmi, Samrat is good and her Mother is telling her to accept the situation, what can she do? Her Mother is supposed to be the most important person in her life, and Ishaan is the one of most important persons to Samrat. In her mind she is getting the best of advice from both sides.

If she did not care about Trisha or what she thought she would not have gone to Ishaan for a final answer, nor would she show doubt to her Mother. So, Urmi is no pushover.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: dumppurvi

@Likarsh

I agree with you. I understand Urmi very much. She is not a pushover, she handled the situation well under the circumstances.

I know Trisha meant well also, but in some ways she was not helping the situation. If Urmi decide to marry Samrat, despite what she told her, what can she do? Showing her disapproval cannot help the situation only cause more tension between Samrat and Urmi.
Urmi under such pressure would naturally ask Trisha that question.
Trisha left, because as I said more than once, she does not react with a cool head at times.

Ishaan is in one ear telling Urmi, Samrat is good and her Mother is telling her to accept the situation, what can she do? Her Mother is supposed to be the most important person in her life, and Ishaan is the one of most important persons to Samrat. In her mind she is getting the best of advice from both sides.

If she did not care about Trisha or what she thought she would not have gone to Ishaan for a final answer, nor would she show doubt to her Mother. So, Urmi is no pushover.



I don't think Trisha can be blamed for what happened at Sangeet and afterwards. Trisha had kept quiet. She walked off the stage because of what Samrat did, and I don't blame her one bit. I think everyone there realized she walked off due to the throwing of money, which is why Rashmi asked what the big deal was when Samrat gave her so much notes. None of them want to acknowledge Trisha was right, to them it's a haughty girl (any girl/woman who refuses to tolerate such things are considered ahangaris). The "not feeling well" was an excuse that most knew wasn't the case, but chose to go along with it.

I don't blame Trisha one bit for walking off the stage. More than the throwing of the money, she saw how he looked at her as and after he thew the money. It was so demeaning and insulting. I commend her for walking off.

And she never said a word. She kept quiet when they all scolded her, she apologized to Samrat's mother, etc etc. It was only at home when Rashmi kept taunting her that she broke and admitted she got out because she didn't like it. And she defended herself when her mother apologized.

Still, she didn't speak bad of Samrat to Urmi. She kept quiet. Urmi confronts her and she still doesn't try to start any trouble. And when the question comes about her telling Samrat her opinion, Urmi doesn't give her a chance to explain herself. Urmi doesn't want to hear anything against Samrat and takes Samrat as the right one and Trisha as the wrong one.

Trisha at this point is done. She doesn't even bother, and leaves.

So, I don't think from Sangeet on, Trisha can be blamed in how she reacted. She has only reacted to the situations. She was in no way wrong in walking off the stage there, no matter what everyone else at that place may think. She did what she felt because she was disgusted and she wasn't going to stand for an insult. She did not lash out or react when she was scolded. She kept her cool. She only lost it later with Rashmi, and that too she reached a breaking point, and still she didn't unleash or let much out.

At your last two lines @bold, I somewhat disagree. I was planning on making a topic on this (still am actually). Urmi asked Ishaan for validation and confirmation. Too many things were coming out right in front of her, no sane person wouldn't have Trisha's words echoing in their head. She needed that be calmed, so she asked Ishaan so she can get reassurance and she can go on with a calm mind.

If she really valued Trisha's opinion over her husband-to-be (and her family), Urmi would have called up Trisha and asked her to explain herself. They all have phones, and even if Urmi didn't bring hers (which I doubt) she would still have access to others' phones. Instead she asks Ishaan, Samrat's friend.


Edited by likarsh - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dolly-heart

It actually shows how naive Urmi is in this where she does not even realize that what and how she said all those things to Trishna will affect Trishna enough to leave.


And going to her Aunt and shedding tears as to why Trishna left was ridiculous.

And I do not feel sorry for Urmi because she will deserve what she will get when she finds out the real nature of the man she married.

Ishaan is also to blame in this as he has given a completely wrong impression of Samrat to Urmi by doing and saying nice things about him when the reality is completely opposite.


👏 totally agreed
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: likarsh


I don't think Trisha can be blamed for what happened at Sangeet and afterwards. Trisha had kept quiet. She walked off the stage because of what Samrat did, and I don't blame her one bit. I think everyone there realized she walked off due to the throwing of money, which is why Rashmi asked what the big deal was he gave her so much notes.None of them want to acknowledge Trisha was right, to them it's a haughty girl (any girl/women who refuses to tolerate such things are considered ahangaris). The "not feeling well" was an excuse that most knew wasn't the case, but chose to go along with it.

I don't blame Trisha one bit for walking off the stage. More than the throwing of the money, she saw how he looked at her as and after he thew the money. It was so demeaning and insulting. I commend her for walking off.

And she never said a word. She kept quiet when they all scolded her, she apologized to Samrat's mother, etc etc. It was only at home when Rashmi kept taunting her that she broke and admitted she got out because she didn't like it. And she defended herself when her mother apologized.

Still,she didn't speak bad of Samrat to Urmi. She kept quiet. Urmi confronts her and she still doesn't try to start any trouble. And when the question comes about her telling Samrat her opinion, Urmi doesn't give her a chance to explain herself, she doesn't want to hear anything against Samrat and takes Samrat as the right one and Trisha as the wrong one.

Trisha at this point is done. She doesn't even bother, and leaves.

So, I don't think from Sangeet on, Trisha can be blamed in how she reacted. She has only reacted to the situations. She was in no way wrong in walking off the stage there, no matter what everyone else at that place may think. She did what she felt because she was disgusted and she wasn't going to stand for an insult. She did not lash out or react when she was scolded. She kept her cool. She only lost it later with Rashmi, and that too she reached a breaking point, and still she didn't unleash or let much out.

At your last two lines @bold, I somewhat disagree. I was planning on making a topic on this (still am actually). Urmi asked Ishaan for validation and confirmation. Too many things were coming out right in front of her, no sane person wouldn't have Trisha's words echoing in their head. She needed that be calmed, so she asked Ishaan so she can get reassurance and she can go on with a calm mind.

If she really valued Trisha's opinion over her husband-to-be (and her family), Urmi would have called up Trisha and asked her to explain herself. They all have phones, and even if Urmi didn't bring hers (which I doubt) she would still have access to others' phones. Instead she asks Ishaan, Samrat's friend.


I did not disagree with her reaction in the Sangeet scenario, that is why I did not say all the time only at times. What Samrat did was completely wrong.
I am not trying to completely put blame on Trish for everything, because I know she means well. I just think in at times she needs to reevaluate her reaction to circumstances. Yes, I noticed she did not answer on those occasions, but I think she should have spoken then to Urm's Mother alone and explain how she felt. I want Trish to say something, I never thought she should be quiet, I just want her to do it at the right time and with a cool head.

I understand you disagreeing with me on my last two lines. However, the way I see it, is that Urmi does care about Trish's opinion, but remember her family keep forcing Samrat on her. No matter how she shows concern or questions things, most of the family members, excepting her brother, is insisting on this wedding. Urmi is in a tough place, she likes Samrat and she trusts and is obedient to her family.

At the same time, she loves Trish a lot and she knows there must be some truth to what Trish is saying. Remember the first time Trish told her about Samrat, she went to him to meet him alone and discuss her concerns. I understand why she would, because you have to be smart and know that even your family members can be wrong or not have your best interest at heart, you have to be smart. Plus, you have to give other people a chance to defend themselves. It is not fair for something negative is being said about you and you can't defend yourself, because someone believes the other person.

I can't say what I would do completely in Urmi's position cause I am a bit of a hot head myself when it comes to nonsense. Samrat is not behaving right. However, I would have to be careful in how I handle everything.
The only reason I am on Urmi and Samrat side is because I know the cvs will eventually make Samrat change because he is a lead character. If he was to be a villain I would never want Urmi or even Trish for him.




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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: dumppurvi

I did not disagree with her reaction in the Sangeet scenario, that is why I did not say all the time only at times. What Samrat did was completely wrong.

I am not trying to completely put blame on Trish for everything, because I know she means well. I just think in at times she needs to reevaluate her reaction to circumstances. Yes, I noticed she did not answer on those occasions, but I think she should have spoken then to Urm's Mother alone and explain how she felt. I want Trish to say something, I never thought she should be quiet, I just want her to do it at the right time and with a cool head.

I understand you disagreeing with me on my last two lines. However, the way I see it, is that Urmi does care about Trish's opinion, but remember her family keep forcing Samrat on her. No matter how she shows concern or questions things, most of the family members, excepting her brother, is insisting on this wedding. Urmi is in a tough place, she likes Samrat and she trusts and is obedient to her family.

At the same time, she loves Trish a lot and she knows there must be some truth to what Trish is saying. Remember the first time Trish told her about Samrat, she went to him to meet him alone and discuss her concerns. I understand why she would, because you have to be smart and know that even your family members can be wrong or not have your best interest at heart, you have to be smart. Plus, you have to give other people a chance to defend themselves. It is not fair for something negative is being said about you and you can't defend yourself, because someone believes the other person.

I can't say what I would do completely in Urmi's position cause I am a bit of a hot head myself when it comes to nonsense. Samrat is not behaving right. However, I would have to be careful in how I handle everything.
The only reason I am on Urmi and Samrat side is because I know the cvs will eventually make Samrat change because he is a lead character. If he was to be a villain I would never want Urmi or even Trish for him.





I didn't say Urmi doesn't care for Trish's opinion, just that she's not placing it above her family and husband to be. And though I criticize her, I understand the difficult situation she's in. I didn't go more into depth because I was planning on writing more on it when I get a chance to sit with a laptop. 😆

I blame Ishaan more than anyone, and I even defend Samrat because he's not bothered to hide his views, ego, etc. It's Ishaan who keeps covering and smoothing things over.

I am protective of Trisha because she's the one who has had to bear public humiliation and taunts. And till she's vindicated and they all acknowledge her and apologize to her, I will feel more for her.😆
Edited by likarsh - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Yes I understand your perspective clearly and I agree very much about Ishaan.
I was very upset when he point blank lied to Urmi. I am now wondering if he believes it himself, since they are friends. It is possible he is naive also.
At the same time, I think he was answering to believing that Samrat is not evil, and just have issues that love can fix. Some people believe that about they people they care about, it is called blind loyalty.

I don't hate Samrat yet, as I believe he just has issues, and there must be something like for instance his Mother that contributed to his behaviour and way of thinking.
However, I don't seem him as evil yet, since he did make his Mother apologise about the dowry demanded. I know he wanted the wedding to happen because he believes he is in control and not God, but he still could have made them pay the dowry.

The way I see Samrat is an Atheist and so he is not guided by a higher power, he is walking without guidance. However, even an atheist can be good-hearted too. So, I will wait to see his true nature as the show progresses.

Poor Urmi and Trish. We women have to go through so much in life. I know it must be a heavy burden for Trish to see what is happening.


Edited by dumppurvi - 11 years ago

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