Here jalal proves he has no heart...

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J2lover

@J2lover

Dazzler

Posted: 11 years ago

Am totally done with this track...total butchering of akbar the great character...n cherry on the cake...yesterday our dearest TE proved he has no heart..for real..all he can do.. Is take rvenge..revengen...REVENGE!!! 😡 😡 he can never love jodha...as wen der's love der's no revenge...no doubt...a bit of trust...god...wat kind of love story is this...ohhh sryy I meant hate storyyy!!!! lost total interest out of this show...sryy for bashing...just took out my frustatn...no ofense to any1zzz

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vacchii

@vacchii

Dazzler

Posted: 11 years ago

Love n Hate are the two sides of same coin.. Extreme emotions! The reason why Jalal is hating on Jodha so much n taking revenge is because his emotions are hurt n humiliated by someone he loves n that is Jodha( I'm not saying Jodha is at fault here.. it was just a situation) n Is Jalal enjoying by taking revenge on Jodha? NO! Didn't you see the same pain on his face what he's giving Jodha when benazir reminded twice about khasiyat of Jodha begum in his life? When he was insulting Jodha in his khwabgah n after sword fight scene.. Jalal was in pain n he had no answer for benazir's question.. he just left! All he's doing is nurturing his hurt ego without realising that he is also going through the same pain what he's making Jodha go through! And this is when they will realise the emotions they have for each other.. Often you realise the hidden emotions when they are hurt.. when they are affected! I agree it's a pain to watch this track.. but if they don't go through such emotions then they will never realise the love they have for each other.. They might as well remain just friends like Jalal n Ruqaiyya! This doesn't happen just in the show.. When you are in love you often get hurt n when you overcome it you will move more closer to your love!

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Preeti

@preet_pal320

Explorer

Posted: 11 years ago

But Jalal is trying to prove that he is heartless. After he poured his heart out to Jodha, after he made himself as vulnerable as possible, she shattered him. It's NOT her fault, but from his perspective, she led him on and crushed him. Now he's humiliated that she rejected him and he's humiliated that he opened up his heart only to have it broken. So in order to restore his self respect and ego, he's going to the extremes to belittle Jodha.

He still has feelings for her, why else would he even do all this? If she was just some ordinary woman that he didn't care about, he wouldn't have done anything. You only hurt the ones you care about and only the ones who care about you get hurt.

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J2lover

@J2lover

Dazzler

Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: vacchii
Love n Hate are the two sides of same coin.. Extreme emotions! The reason why Jalal is hating on Jodha so much n taking revenge is because his emotions are hurt n humiliated by someone he loves n that is Jodha( I'm not saying Jodha is at fault here.. it was just a situation) n Is Jalal enjoying by taking revenge on Jodha? NO! Didn't you see the same pain on his face what he's giving Jodha when benazir reminded twice about khasiyat of Jodha begum in his life? When he was insulting Jodha in his khwabgah n after sword fight scene.. Jalal was in pain n he had no answer for benazir's question.. he just left! All he's doing is nurturing his hurt ego without realising that he is also going through the same pain what he's making Jodha go through! And this is when they will realise the emotions they have for each other.. Often you realise the hidden emotions when they are hurt.. when they are affected! I agree it's a pain to watch this track.. but if they don't go through such emotions then they will never realise the love they have for each other.. They might as well remain just friends like Jalal n Ruqaiyya! This doesn't happen just in the show.. When you are in love you often get hurt n when you overcome it you will move more closer to your love!

totally agree with your every bit...but just put jodha in jalal's place...am cent % sure...she would NEVER EVER had done this with jalal...anywayzzz loved your thesis on LOVE,...👏👏 u kinda deeply know all about it...as am kinda damn practical...don't beliveve much in all this but loved ur theory!!!!!!!!😉😉

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Mihrimah Ahmed

@ShadeOfWhite

Stunner

+ 4

Posted: 11 years ago

awww relax sweeite !!🤗

see, with each track Jalal and Jodha's relation only moved ahead not otherwise...first they started loathing each other..then they became civil, phir trust is built and then friendship hua...ab bari hai pyaar ki...pyaar toh pehle se hi tha...realization baki hai..jo iss track mein hoga...Benazir is mere a catalyst...she will bring JJ more n more closer and both JJ will realize their love for each other in this track.

don't be dishearten...just want to remind u, till now no track is dragged beyond two weeks...so hopefully it will end soon and definitely will give us something beautiful..😊 lets be positive.

waise, Jalal is madly in LOVE with Jodha...issi liye he doesn't even give a damn to Benazir...humesha nazaar Jodha pe hi hoti hai...like Benazir said "aapki chahiti Begum hai..uss par se aapki nazaar hatti hi nahi"😳

didnt u notice whenever Jalal hurts Jodha..it hurts him equally ? uska muh bhi utar jata hai😳

agar Jodha koi maaine nahi rakhti uske liye toh yeh sab Jodha ko jalane ke liye woh kabhi nahi karta...thing is that he is hurt right now..as he was rejected at his most vulnerable state...he put his heart out to her...but she refused hence this behavior.

dono ko pressure cooker ke andar jab tak nahi rakhoge tab tak koi accept nahi karega ke pyaar hai..😆such big fat ego they have

Edited by tamy267 - 11 years ago

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Priyamvada

@peepu

Voyager

Posted: 11 years ago

After all lovely replies here are my two cents
See Jalal is using his anger as a mask to hide his inner vulnerability .
He opened his heart but after rejection how come he would have faced Jodha .
Jodha is realising the mess she and Jalal are in,that's why she's running behind him leaving all her ego.
Jalal has a heart it beats only for Jodha and the idea to evoke the jealousy in Jodha and her refusing to be with Jalal is driving him crazy,
So both are doing silly things coz they what each other,
Jalal for sure has a heart,he needs that Eureka moment !
To realise that night his carnal as well as emotional longing both are for only person Jodha whom he wants to love,to be loved by her .
Jodha is moving to her realisation more faster and surely,jalals heart will find itself after that Eureka moment,of possessiveness and longing

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MaddyO

@MaddyO

Sparkler

Posted: 11 years ago

Wow great posts!

Agree Jalal is hurt. It was not easy for him to pour out his feelings to Jodha. He does that believeing she is also feeling the same. When she refuses he is crushed and feels humiliated.

When Jodha comes to meet Jalal, his refusing to meet her, asking to go away, telling her of course he does not love her all was done in private. It is between the two of them to resolve. That is understandable.

What is just not done is humiliating Jodha in public. That is just petty & cruel.
Telling MahamA he is planning revenge on Jodha!

What is pathetic is sharing his feeling with MahamA! Jalal would NEVER share any stuff between him and Rukayya with MahamA, Why he so easily does that about Jodha?

Then when Jodha tells him she did not write all that why did he not take the letter on some pretext from MahamA and ask somebody else to read. Jalal could so easily have told MahamA he wants to keep the letter as a reminder to him of how Jodha behaved with him.

Jalal has to know Jodha a little by now, why he readily believes ONLY MahamA and NOT Jodha

Benzir is not important at all, not to Jalal nor Jodha.

Edited by MaddyO - 11 years ago

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vacchii

@vacchii

Dazzler

Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: J2lover
totally agree with your every bit...but just put jodha in jalal's place...am cent % sure...she would NEVER EVER had done this with jalal...anywayzzz loved your thesis on LOVE,...👏👏 u kinda deeply know all about it...as am kinda damn practical...don't beliveve much in all this but loved ur theory!!!!!!!!😉😉

That's the difference between Jalal n Jodha right! Jodha is seedhi saadhi but Jalal has always been tedha 😆 BUT you can't really blame him but blame his upbringing n the people around him.. Jalal has always been emotionally deprived.. be it from his parent's love or from any begum's love! Nobody loved him unconditionally ever.. except HB n some ladies but it was too late for him to realise it! He's always been manipulated.. the people he considers his loved ones like MA herself does it even though he blindly believes her.. he had a troubled childhood whereas Jodha was given all the proper sanskaar n love in her family with good people around! So I really don't find him wrong.. he's been a victim of the situation. He's a good man but that good boy in him was never let to come outside.. He's taught to think n live like a Shehenshah! So now Jodha will fix him n he will become Akbar the Great! 😊

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Shraddha

@lashy

Trailblazer

+ 4

Posted: 11 years ago

I know we keep bringing up this topic about Jalal sharing stuff with MA... and I agree he's at fault with that..but, he also is twisted into doing that when MA keeps going ahead to him and doing her usual emotional naatakbaazi to find out what's happening. He doesn't go out seeking her (except when he's emotionally down like during the BB time)... she keeps prodding him to find out information...

He needs to share it with someone and he cannot as yet see the MA as we see her.

Why he doesn't share stuff about Ruqs? Well, what's there to share? I don't think the makers have yet shown a MU track between Jalal and Ruqs na... When Jalal and Jodha were cordial, Jalal wasn't running to MA's chamber to tell her about his 'heart ache' or about the 'lunch date' or about the 'payal'

She's the one who keeps coming and extracting info from him to misuse it!

Btw, Jodha has also spoke about her raatri vyatit baatein to her daasis (and this was not even Mothi we're referring to). she also speaks about her personal stuff to Salima... Mothi too does tease her about the 'night' waala chats and 'baal kyun bikhre hue hain' etc etc

only difference is that since Salima, Mothi and daasis don't betray her, she doesn't come out looking silly in this aspect...😊

If there was an 'emotional' mother in Jodha's life from her childhood just like MA is in Jalal's (seeing the trusting/emotional person that Jo too is, just like Jalal) I'm sure she'd have a hard time suspecting that doodh-mother too... Its only that everyone from Jodha's family has been portrayed pretty much pristine!

There has also always been a lot of imbalance in this show portraying all Rajvanshis as noble and Mughals as ruthless (except maybe HB and Salima)... I'm sure there would have been both types in both camps... 😊

Edited by lashy - 11 years ago

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MaddyO

@MaddyO

Sparkler

Posted: 11 years ago

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Vacchii & lashy that is true what you wrote about Jalal's background

Speaking from Jodha's viewpoint - she is the one who had to marry the man she despises. Jalal was gone from the moment he laid eyes on her! Jodha had to come into an alien culture, live with the very people she has considered enemies. She is the one who is in hostile territory so to speak. Jodha is the one having to face people constantly plotting against her, hostile to her.

Even in all this Jodha tries to support Jalal, she supports Rukayya also.

It is not Jodha's fault that Jalal has blind trust in some people. But it ends up hurting her always.

Jalal is the one she finally comes to think of as her friend only to have him misunderstand her, humiliate her in public no less.

Her good loving upbringing may give her more rounded personality, that does not make what she has to face any less hurtful

Don't mind how Jalal is behaving with Benzir to show Jodha, as much as mind Jalal insulting Jodha in public. Mostly everybody is against her anyways, Jalal is just boosting them with his behavior with her in public.