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Posted: 11 years ago
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I'm actually not able to understand the purpose of the track... i agree maybe for jealousy, but the biggest factor trust won't be there from Jodha's side because Jodha will not be able to trust him again... He really has no idea ki kitne papad belne padenge to win Jodha's trust again... She will feel he hasn't changed and he only wants to use her for his lust... This track has confused me... 😕 Hopefully Cv's won't disappoint us...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: peepu


Here when trpz fall as ppl are sick of Ben
As per history Akbar will curb her power then only Adham will rebel and gets killed by Jalal


Yeah history one I know but in the showits not happening soon I think 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Akanksha_33

I'm actually not able to understand the purpose of the track... i agree maybe for jealousy, but the biggest factor trust won't be there from Jodha's side because Jodha will not be able to trust him again... He really has no idea ki kitne papad belne padenge to win Jodha's trust again... She will feel he hasn't changed and he only wants to use her for his lust... This track has confused me... 😕 Hopefully Cv's won't disappoint us...


Yeah even I am not able to understand maybe they want to bring out Jodha's realisation that she loves him
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: elasingh

No ...The track might show that Jalal has intense feelings for Jodha but really no trust...Thank god Jodha didn't accept drukard husband that night ...He might have denied whatever he had said as being said in drunk state...

This track might envoke feelings of jealousy in Jodha but also shakes the foundation of trust and honour...Even when the track is over scars will remain...Wouldn't Jodha think in her heart that he can change again...Will Jodha again believe him if he says to her that he trusts her?...After all she had said to him that she doesn't hate him because he trusts her now...Now it will be difficult for her to trust him or his words...


I absolutely agree no relationship can survive without trust
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nandiniraizaada


Yeah even I am not able to understand maybe they want to bring out Jodha's realisation that she loves him


maybe the track is for that... but i feel that there are other various ways to help them realise their love... after this track i want Jo and Ja out of Agra for a holiday... or introduce a new hot dude for Jo darling... so that jalal feels the burn...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Do you know what happened to 16 century women who looked at other hot dudes😆. I am so sick of this track, I mean how can he blindly trust pt MA like that
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nandiniraizaada

Do you know what happened to 16 century women who looked at other hot dudes😆. I am so sick of this track, I mean how can he blindly trust pt MA like that


You're right that time it was nearly impossible for a married woman to look at another man,husband can keep a harem but women had no rights,so keeping the time frame think any close relative of ruks or Jalal visits him and is charmed by Jodha as he doesn't knowshe's shehenshah begum ,without her knowledge and she talks to him with respect ,will be enough ,
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: elasingh

Why do ppl always point out at Jodha and Jalal's child hood...Well it is true that childhood experience shape a person to a great extent but at some point of life a person has to outgrow and overcome them...It is not Jodha's fault that she had a happy childhood and Jalal didn't...Neither can we blame Jalal's childhood loneliness for all his follies...Jalal wishes to rule Hindustan but doesn't know that he doesn't even rule his harem...No one is asking him not to trust MA but blind trust?...With him it is like whole world is lying except MA...Look how many innocents have died due to his blind trust in MA?...again when has he ever noticed that Jodha has spoken lies to him? Never...So doesn't Jodha merit even a single thought in his brain that she might be telling the truth...It is time Jalal became responsible for his actions...Every time blame for his follies cann't be shifted to his bad childhood ...



Great post. Agree, especially the blue lines, every word is bang on
Jalal doesn't even rule his Haram!!!
Your observation that Jodha has never spoken lies to him - YET he simply has no trust in her.
He has become a puppet in the hands of MahamA now


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: lashy

I know we keep bringing up this topic about Jalal sharing stuff with MA... and I agree he's at fault with that..but, he also is twisted into doing that when MA keeps going ahead to him and doing her usual emotional naatakbaazi to find out what's happening. He doesn't go out seeking her (except when he's emotionally down like during the BB time)... she keeps prodding him to find out information...

He needs to share it with someone and he cannot as yet see the MA as we see her.
Why he doesn't share stuff about Ruqs? Well, what's there to share? I don't think the makers have yet shown a MU track between Jalal and Ruqs na... When Jalal and Jodha were cordial, Jalal wasn't running to MA's chamber to tell her about his 'heart ache' or about the 'lunch date' or about the 'payal'

She's the one who keeps coming and extracting info from him to misuse it!

Btw, Jodha has also spoke about her raatri vyatit baatein to her daasis (and this was not even Mothi we're referring to). she also speaks about her personal stuff to Salima... Mothi too does tease her about the 'night' waala chats and 'baal kyun bikhre hue hain' etc etc
only difference is that since Salima, Mothi and daasis don't betray her, she doesn't come out looking silly in this aspect...😊

If there was an 'emotional' mother in Jodha's life from her childhood just like MA is in Jalal's (seeing the trusting/emotional person that Jo too is, just like Jalal) I'm sure she'd have a hard time suspecting that doodh-mother too... Its only that everyone from Jodha's family has been portrayed pretty much pristine!

There has also always been a lot of imbalance in this show portraying all Rajvanshis as noble and Mughals as ruthless (except maybe HB and Salima)... I'm sure there would have been both types in both camps... 😊



Agree MahamA keeps asking Jalal, but so did his mother! He told her to keep away it was between husband and wife. So why not tell that to MahamA?! She only has to bring up Jodha's name when he blurts out stuff to her. He actually talks about taking REVENGE on Jodha!
Jalal's close ones keep bertraying him, even his own sister and he STILL for 1 min does not suspect MahamA! It is like Elasingh pointed out here for him the whole world could be lying but not MahamA. He is looking the fool here not Jodha!

Mugals were ruthless! Jodha managed to turn Akbar into better ruler. Look at history what followed after, wasn't Auranzeb her grandson or something. Look what he did!

They have showed Sujamal as totally weak selfish character, Maharana Pratap even calls him not worth killing also.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: prejudiced

Here we are seeing the story of two flawed persons...

Neither is Jalaal - Akbar the great yet nor is Jodha a flawless person.(yet)
Right now Jalaal feels wronged and his reaction may not be the best or the right one but that is how he reacts.
He feels terribly let down by Jodha and is in a tit for tat mode.
His anger is justified ...His ways of extracting his revenge is questionable but this is Jalaal...not AKBAR.
Regarding discussing with MA, so far Jalaal has not seen a single reason why he should think she is not his well-wisher.
Moreover he did not tell MA anything until he was prodded by her.
I for one find Banazir very cheap especially from the episode on Friday. But setting that aside, what this track tells us is how intense Jalaal's feelings are...that's why this deep a hurt and this horrible a reaction. Also we get to see a jealous Jodha...who has otherwise been a saint.
So as much as we don't like the concept, there are indeed positives to this track.



I don't think Jodha is jealous of Benzir - she is hardly worth noticing. What Jodha fumes about is Jalal ignoring her.

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