Re: Craze for Apna Khoon

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Posted: 12 years ago
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What is BV trying to show? Why this craze for Apna Khoon?

One Side - Ira Maata, I have raised some one else's child not mine. After thirty years of attachment how can a woman think like that. She will be sad but that will not reduce her love for the child who is with her all these days.
The idiot cannot see how her own blood is spoiling her relationship with the whole family.
Another Side - Sumitra and the entire Gang. For the sake of saying, they are all Mannu lover - Mannu is the kid of the family. Actually every one wishes for their own blood, Jagya and Ganga 's child- Sumitra showed her true colors, Gehna and Basant and Bhairan follows her.
They have totally forgotten Mannu over last few days, Instead of heir they should think f adopting Mannu or Ratan Singh can come and take him. But no one can see that. Ganga - Mannu s mummy does not care for him and only want to give a child to BH.
Crap - Couple who does not have a child does not have any right to live as a couple what a thought?

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Is it not natural for wanting one's own child? This need is biologically built into living species.
Only if every attempt fails coup,es are into adoption these days. In our country they are not
Even ready for that. In India a child is some one who is never detached from you in western
Nations. In western nations once the child is raised upto aduthood it is not parent's resposibility
Any more. In our country a girl is a life long responsibility. With so many poor relatives around
They dont alow a couple to adopt from outside. They expect the couple to do every thing for their
Own children rather than do it for an outsider.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Jan50

Is it not natural for wanting one's own child? This need is biologically built into living species.

Only if every attempt fails coup,es are into adoption these days. In our country they are not
Even ready for that. In India a child is some one who is never detached from you in western
Nations. In western nations once the child is raised upto aduthood it is not parent's resposibility
Any more. In our country a girl is a life long responsibility. With so many poor relatives around
They dont alow a couple to adopt from outside. They expect the couple to do every thing for their
Own children rather than do it for an outsider.

Parenting an adopted kid, this seems to be a very weired thought for me. But you do have a point.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I think BV is giving a regressive message here. Especially Ira's changed behaviour towards Shiv is really bad. Mannu's neglect equally wrong. That Basant is crazy about biological kids forgetting he was an adopted guy himself!

It's unimaginable to the extents that people go for a kid. Multiple marriages, surrogacy (sometimes people have various notions about the "womb" also so they prefer to have a woman of own family to give her womb than take an outsider), in case of male infertility the fate of woman is worse...she's almost raped by other male members of the family so that she gets a child that has the family's genes (Savdhan India once showed a case about FIL raping DIL to beget them waaris because the son was impotent. It was so exploitative! In past women were blamed as banjh just to hide the fact that it was the man who was impotent), buying kids or taking kids borne by other relatives etc.

I believe it's disgusting and craze shouldn't be this much. Men and women shouldn't just be considered as reproductive machines.

Biological kid isn't necessarily great. Many kids in BV have been an absolute embarassment and shame for not just their families but also their localities.

If you get a kid then fine but don't be so desperate. It should not be this much of a matter of sukh-dukh, doom etc.

And changing your attitude or getting repulsed after decades knowing the child you thought as your own is not your own is really uncalled for and unfair.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Ira was not repulsed by Shiv.
She was stunned and shocked to know that the kid she had been so proud of and felt to be her lifetime achievement and pride and joy - was in fact an act of charity and a lie she was allowed to live by the two people she has always loved and never decieved - Alok and Meenu.

She told Shiv as much in their tearful meeting - we cannot ignore the impact this truth will eventually have on all our lives. Even if we change names we address our relations by - "bhaavnaayein to nahi badal sakengi".

What was that ? That meant - no matter what Shiv may eventually call her in life - their bonds of love forged over 30 years cannot ever change.

Ira was mad at Meenu and Alok - and not rejecting of Shiv. She was just trying to accept the harsh truth and steeling herself against the harsh possibility that Shiv may change his mind about Ira and switch to Meenu.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@Hooked

I understand Ira's anger at Alok and Meenu. But her lines like ayah and giving love, reposing hopes and dreams in someone else's child were harsh and ridiculous. Even on surface level how could she conjure up such thoughts and use such words?

Why didn't she accept when Shiv said only she'd be mom for him and not anybody else?

If she still had affection for Shiv the same way like she had earlier, then she wouldn't listen to Sanchi and get influenced by her. She's still distanced from Shiv. No amount of tears, reassurances and hugs from him have cut much ice with her.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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From my own experience I can only say a mother cannot have a different feeling for adopted child , a child is a child it does not matter whether biological or not but every one does not have the same thought.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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i dont agree with you on Singhs part I dont call Singhs crazy They are right on their part What Ganga is doing i don't support that Thats wrong but Singhs desire to have their grandchild is not wrong . Adoption does not mean the need and importance of biological child can be denied .There is nothing about only biological child is good adopted is bad or adopted is good biological is bad .If a couple has adopted one child does not mean they should drop the idea to have their own child if they want then they can go ahead with it nothing wrong in it and in JaGan 's case surrogacy is the best way for them to have their child and Mannu can get a sibling too

Mannu's case is not like an orphan child Ratan will get death sentence or life time imprisonment because he is a murder but his family ? what if they tomorrow redeems then neither Ganga , neither Jagya , neither Singhs will ask Mannu to hate them or don't serve his grandparents so Mannu is carrying the legacies of two families In this if Singhs want their own grandchild from their bloodline whom they dont have to share with anyone , who will just carry their name , will only be called theirs , then how they are wrong ? I don't call them wrong or crazy as of now They have not neglected Mannu or don't love him but if they want a child from their bloodline then they are not wrong
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@ Reshmi
I agree. A child is a child. You love them the very best way you know how. there is no "more" or "less".

@Skep
I agree her words about supporting Sanchi's term of "ayah" in front of Daddu were very harsh sounding to Shiv who was standing outside. But that was Ira's outburst to Daddu - she was feeling used !!

It was her first reaction ! She is so pent up that she cudn't even bring herself to say anything to Alok or Meenu.

She probably felt - they took the decision out of her hands - they did not even allow her to choose whether she wanted to mourn her own baby or replace it with a live one. This was just hurt - she was telling Daddu - that things cannot go back to being the same coz its a lot of info to process for her. It had just been less than a day and Daddu was trying to tell her to let it go and get on with things as normal.

It is my feeling - she never intended for Shiv to get hurt. She realizes he has been as tossed about as she was - but she is a little more insecure as she feels - Shiv still has the choice and he may now choose to go to his "asli" ma and forget her. Am so glad Shiv reassured her that day about her always being his MA.

Its now up to the writers to see if they let Sanchi totally control access to her mom on the pretext of alienating her to be just her own mom - OR - if Shiv will find a way to let Ira know that he still wants her to be there for him as always and isn't going to suddenly turn around and switch to Meenu and forget her.

I get Ira's insecurity. It was just self preservation. But lets hope they don't let Sanchi treat this incident as masala for another year of drama and nastiness.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@Mahi

I believe Singhs are wrong in harping about it despite knowing Ganga's condition. Surrogacy was discussed today. But their behaviour and dialogues earlier were not right. Especially when Sumitra labelled DS' talks about Mannu being there as bahaana.

They do neglect Mannu a lot these days.

If Rat's family redeems then also they have lost rights over him since legally Mannu is Jagya and Ganga's now.

It'll be up to Singhs whether they want Mannu to have contact with Rat's family and upto Mannu if he wants to have contact with them or not. No way can they snatch Mannu from them.

Basant's still there with DS and co. despite Mahavir Singh reforming.

In fact it should be upto Singhs to build such a strong bond with Mannu that he doesn't even believe them when he learns truth of his biological family. DS had experience with Basant. Why not apply same to Mannu?

Had they not behaved the way they did then perhaps Ganga too wouldn't be so depressed and wouldn't risk her life the way she is doing now.

Surrogacy is a way for sure. But it will be damn hard to convince DS about it and to get such a woman in Jetsar plus manage it all in a place like Jetsar without stigma for either Singhs or the woman who agrees to be surrogate. They'll have to respect privacy and reputation of the woman also who agrees to be surrogate for money. Quite a task ahead of them.

Better behaviour was expected from them considering they had cases of Basant and Sugna before in their family. Do they wonder how'd it be if Shyam's family still hadn't accepted Sugna's child with Pratap? And Basant wouldn't be with them, he'd be at Nagore then with Mahavir Singh.

When a family has been there and done that then expectations from them get different. It's no different from their insistence for a virgin, young bride for Jagya even though their own family had cases of remarriages of widows and divorcees. If the bias still exists in their mind then it means that acceptance they made in case of other members in their family was not wholehearted then? Was it merely a tough compromise for them?

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