I don't think jodha is wrong to forgive bakshi. here is the reason:

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Okay...I know I may seem new on this forum but actually I am not. I had been on this forum when JA 1st started but then due to some circumstances I have been totally absent from IF. i had been an ardent fan of QH then and still my many ffs are pending and I am sure if any of my readers catch a glimpse of this here I will be killed. Trust me I had very valid personal reason for not coming on IF for as long as 5 months. But that I don't have time to explain. The only thing i will say is i deeply apologize for living without any warning and just disappearing like that. if any of my ff readers do read this i am sorry for never completing those works of mine. I am still busy but i couldn't help coming today here. And when I did have a relapsešŸ˜† I realized I had missed a lot on both the forums. And also I read of analysis on Friday's episode and couldn't help writing my views on it.

Many of you may have a different opinion and of course you can be right. I am just stating mine. Okay that's a hell long introduction...sorry for that. okay here it goes even though I know it's too late to write this since tomorrow the new episode comes out...

The diwan-e-khaas:

This scene was really well scripted. It was the exact amount sadness that Jalal felt. The atmosphere was well maintained throughout. The beauty of this scene was the subtlety with which it was delivered. Nothing extra, nothing OTT.

Now in this scene Jalal comes in and announces that one of his own, his dearest sister has betrayed not only him but his kingdom, (yes his, in all rights). He is visibly hurt and struggling to bring himself to announce that his sister is to be punished. Now here is a very interesting part the CVs have presented us. Like Hamida said here a king could not overcome the brother within him. This showed a very positive side of Jalal, that he is very much human and has a heart, which later Jodha points out and I will come to that later. So Jalal gives the right to punish Bakshi to the other person who was the victim of this saazish or may be even more so.

Now many guessed that probably Jalal knew that Jodha would forgive Bakshi so he played it safe by giving her the decision. Well I differ to agree. In my opinion Jalal was projected sad and tormented. He realised two flaws to him making the final judgement,

1. People would always think that his punishment was lenient if he does give a punishment considering just a few days back he got a man's hands cut for a petty theft or on contrary if he does give a harsh punishment they may think that his relatives get harsher punishments for just being his relatives. In both cases it his justice would be in question.

2. He simply couldn't bring himself to punish her. Plain and simple.

Now comes Jodha's part. Contrary to everyone's opinion I think what the CVs did was the best way to project Jodha, the animal lover.šŸ˜‰

Okay on a serious note I can understand why Jodha decided to forgive Bakshi. It does make sense. See Jodha explains all the reasons beautifully as to why Bakshi should be punished. But where Jodha fails is in explaining why she chose the particular punishment. And I think she herself could not understand it since she simply followed her heart. So let me explain.

We live in a world full of corruption and crime and may be it is our frustration at the lack of remorse we see from these criminals that we want a solid punishment.

But to Jodha its different. She is different. To her Bakshi was like her sister. And she sees Bakshi as a child. And she takes it that way. Let me explain, a child when does something wrong which he thinks is right he will do it. Now if the parents punish the child the child will in most cases learn his lesson. But if the child strongly believes what he did was right than all he will think about is that his parents don't understand his reasons which are right so he is being punished. To him it's like martyrdom to be punished for a cause he thinks is right. so in this cases the child should be forgiven and made to understand over a course of time that what he did was wrong. His reasons for doing it were wrong.

Also if a person who is good at heart but has done something wrong due to bad influence like any teenager then forgiving him for the first time is the best way to handle him. Yes it's a huge risk hence one must be sure that the person in question is actually capable of redemption. This causes the sense of guilt instead of the feeling of martyrdom and also that person feels indebted to the one who forgave him.

Yes in long run her decision may send wrong signals to his people. But Jodha is a family person. To her more important than giving right justice is helping Bakshi. And also what is the point of punishing a person who feels no regret as many put it. Bakshi would still do anything for that excuse of a husband. Also to her Bakshi is more important than setting an example.

Also she had already forgiven Bakshi so now punishing her would not only give her trauma but the pain inflicted on Bakshi would torment Hamida and Jalal. It is clearly highlighted in the later scene that Jalal's pain did play a role in Bakshi's judgement. That is what is great about the character Jodha. She doesn't hold grudges. If so she would hold a lifelong grudge against all Mughals especially Jalal for their role in killing suryabhan to all the sufferings she had to endure till that day. And yes suryabhan did die in a war and Jalal didn't personally kill him but that would not count to Jodha. Because she had to endure the trauma of seeing his head.

So Jodha decides better to keep Bakshi away from her husband and get her to realise her mistake when she is not in his influence. Make her realise that her loyalties are commendable but placed wrong.

Now I don't say that later on Jalal is wrong in not forgiving Bakshi but that doesn't make Jodha wrong. Both are right from their perspectives. Jalal cannot forgive Bakshi as a king. But the same doesn't apply to Jodha since when Jalal asked her to punish Bakshi he didn't ask the mallika of Hindustan to give a judgement, he asked Jodha the victim to. So the laws that apply to him don't apply to her. Just because she is the king's wife doesn't mean she should give up what she feels and do what is right for his image.

Jodha-Jalal:

Okay now again I found it weird that people could criticise Jodha here too for repeating the same words of Bakshi and salima to Jalal. The scene here was very simple. Jalal asked her why she forgave Bakshi. Jodha tells him part of the reason that involves him and Now what Jodha does is she tells him what Bakshi is feeling, her state of mind. She is not answering his question at all here. All she is trying to do is get Jalal to forgive Bakshi. She is saying look at her, try to understand her, try to see how you can help her rather than punishing her. And why should he? because she is your sister. She is someone you care for. He outright rejects. He says he is a king and he can't get relations and justice mixed. That's when Jodha says that she too has a relation with Bakshi and next when she says, "hume bhi utni hi taklif hui hai jitni aapko." She refers to the embarrassment and torture this whole saazish caused them both. Here she does not equate their attachment to Bakshi at all because that would make no sense. Then she further tells him that he cares for Bakshi so he should forgive her. If she can he can. Here is her point. She is telling him to listen to his heart that wants to forgive Bakshi rather than his mind that tells him he is a king and hence can't, for the pain she caused on a personal level if he was not a king he would have forgiven her and on Jodha's part she already did. But he is a king and as a king he cannot.

But to Jalal he listens to her and doesn't question her decision or try to make her understand the effects of this decision on his people. Why? Because he knows that she didn't take this decision as his wife but as Jodha, an individual. But to him the notion of forgiveness is alien.

To him Jodha was hurt by Bakshi and even though she can forgive that he can't. also to him he feels he wronged Jodha as it was his own sister who hurt her so he is punishing himself along with Bakshi. If it was a direct betrayal to him by Bakshi, as a brother he would have forgiven her. But as a king he wouldn't. that's exactly Jodha's point here. Since justice is done the king in him can now get out of this mess and only as a brother he can view this situation. Then again as both were wronged, she has forgiven Bakshi so now all that's left is the hurt caused to him as a brother by his sister. Where he should do what his heart is telling him, and that is to forgive Bakshi.

Now since I don't have time I will not write on Jalal's speech. But let me tell you it was amazing. And the entire scene moved me to tears.😭 I wanted to write about it but I can't. Sorry for that and also for any grammatical mistake.šŸ˜”

I know this is too long and many may disagree but that's everyone's perspective. To some this may seem like total garbage and it may as well be. But since I have put in so much effort please do tell me if you agree or disagree below so that when I get time I can read your opinions. Love you all and bye bye.

PS: from all that I read here today I have to say this forum has become very welcoming and supportive of the show. No wonder JA is doing so well. Good work all you guys. Love the friendly environment here.

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princessonline thumbnail
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Amazing post! And very well written! Forgiving Bakshi was a great decision. Forgiveness can sometimes be the best source of peace for a punisher. What I am trying to say by that is that if Jodha had punished Bakshi, what Bakshi did would not be erased. Jodha would be fighting a battle within herself like Jalal is after punishing her. However, Jodha is no longer experiencing any grief because she has forgiven her. I don't think it would be wise for Jodha to forget what Bakshi did and become best buddies with her again but I think it is a wise decision to forgive her and move on because what has been said and done has been said and done. Jodha not only is the bigger person in this scenario, but a wise one. Bakshi will always feel guilty for what she has done. She was already guilty for doing what she had done and the forgiveness will just add to her guilt. A life lesson that I personally have learned is that you should forgive and let go. Doesn't mean that you should forget what the other person has done, but just don't harbor any negative feelings for them and make your own life miserable. You don't have to be the same around then again, but don't be negative either. The best punishment is indifference. Peaceful for the punisher because they don't have to harbor any feelings for the accused person and a great punishment for the accused if they have a moral conscious.

Riya
Edited by princessonline - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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as said, I also feel that JJ are incomparable, as jodha thinks as a human, and Jalal thinks as a king, so jodha can let BB go scot free but not Jalal..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I completely agree with you. I would have been very surprised if Jodha didn't forgive BB. That would have gone against Jodha's character.

Jodha has always shown as a compassionate person who helps beings in distress. Be it animals or humans. I think more than anything Jodha pitied BB. Jodha saw in BB a sad and insecure girl who was so afraid to be alone she would rather put up with an abuser and do his bidding.

As Jodha said BB has been abandoned by her husband and her family has lost all respect for her. Whatever punishment Jodha would have given wouldn't have compared to the fact BB's brother disowned her and Hamida's disappointment in BB and refusal to forgive her.

I feel sometimes with poor Jodha it is a case of - damned if you do, damned if you don''t. Poor girl can't seem to win regardless of what she does. šŸ˜† . People will always find a fault.

Edited by hewa2204 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Loved your explaination of Jodha's behavior and also Jalal's...It was very balanced...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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New or Old... all members have the right to express their feelings in this forum.
I loved reading your analysis... especially the first half.
Must say this Friday's entire epsiode of JA was fabulous... I was amazed that at the Akda scene and Jalal not able to control his tears in front of Jodha... really amazing scene. šŸ‘ to the CV's
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Welcome buddy!
Its always refreshing and nice to read a neutral ,unbiased and positive view!
I really liked your analysis and the way you had interpreted the Friday episode!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hey wow... Thanks for the lovely comments... We truly are a friendly forum and respect everyone's opinion... I know you have raised some very valid points... I completely agree with you... Jodha has her reasons to forgive Bakshi... But I can't lolšŸ˜†šŸ˜†šŸ˜†
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I guess Jalal in comparison with his other Begams (in this case Rukaiya)... had expected that Jodha would want a very harsh punishment for BB.
When Rukaiya lost her baby... she wanted revenge... murder for murder.
She kept insisting on geting justise in the form of revenge... having gone through that situation recently... it was justified that he thot Jodha would also want revenge in the form of justice. I 100% agree with your analysis on the court scene...that was just apt.
But Jodha being Jodha... she forgave BB, this scene justified her character. For her BB was already suffering enuf.
This act of Jodha forgiving BB lead to the second scene of Akda in her room... Jalal questioning her and him breaking down overwhelmed by her sensitivity... Here the CV's have beautifully shown Brother's feeling wining over the king's anger.
Jalal knew he could trust Jodha and hence did not try to hide or control his tears in front of her... he knew she would not mock him or publicize his breakdown. He knew... he could let his guard lose and be himself.
All this by itself proves that Akda have moved their relationship one more step ahead in a very subtle manner... the unsaid bond of comfort and belief in each other.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Awesome post!!! šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘...Agree with you dear..😊😊..
Do share ur views when time permits..šŸ¤—

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