JA 20th Nov - Jodha finally in GUILT mode - thanks CVs! - Page 7

That is a lovely description of Rajat's magisterial handling of the scene with Bakshi Banu.

I was watching it again, and when, after the hug and the (genuine and infinitely tender) kiss on her head, he moves away and asks Aap hi ne Jodha Begum jo wo ark pilaya tha na? the expression in his eyes simply blew me away - they were so still and knowing and so very, very sad. Then, as you have described it, he builds up steam. It is microcontrolled and incredibly effective, and he never really blows his top as he used to do in some earlier OTT scenes.

Rajat's Jalal simply walks off with all his major scenes, and I do hope he gets to do more of them in the episodes ahead, instead of standard issue bickering with Jodha like a callow boy rather than like an emperor.

But for him, this show would be pedestrian, and would have been easily trumped by Maharana Pratap, which has splendid sets and costumes (it won a whole bunch of technical awards at the ITA, while JA got none), and despite being populated with archtypes rather than complex human beings, still has a superb Maharana Udai Singh and Kunwar Pratap and a magnificent Lady Macbeth-like 3rd queen - no wonder she won the ITA award for the best negative role for a female.

Shyamala
PS: Is Annie your real name or a nickname?

Originally posted by: loveanime

You guys are sweet calling me Annie reminds me of one of my fav movies.

Shyamala you mentioned a very crucial point of this serial, in the hands of an lesser actor jalal wouldn't be as fascinating and enigmatic as he is. After sukanya wedding this is another time where we are seeing him start out at a baseline calmness, slowly building steam with his controlled aggression and then when he calms down again to some extent it really is a treat to watch. Rajat really excels in such scenes. He does an superlative job in tainting his aggression with disgust as he does with dawalgardh folks or anger mingled with grief when with bakshi. It is not always one shade anger.

He doesn't have to even talk to express his sadness. The scene with ruqu was really sad, he might never be passionately in love with her like a man can be with a woman but he does love her in his own way. In the last episode or so jalal reminded us of his pain and the way it was projected on screen it trumped all of jodha tears. The wounds that might never heal from losing his first child have been ruthlessly torn open again. Even me as an audience didn't think too much on it carried away by jodha ghrina resulting in endless eye rolling from me. It is worthy of the writers to transition the story focus from who is trying to ruin jodha to how much jalal is hurt having being reminded of a dream not fulfilled.

So much so jalal made this about him and his pain, the big reveal to jodha was muted and only sanctioned a minute of the episode. Excellent ploy by the writers because I am sorry jodha and her disgust was never making any impact on me, but the moment jalal mentioned his children name, his broken dream, ruqu tears suddenly this track seemed relevant because we felt sad for them. So all in all a very emotional way to end this track.

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Well, Annie (if I may), I am never surprised by your splendid analyses and your insight into character, in this case that of Jalal @blue. As you remarked so aptly 3 weeks ago, he truly walks alone, way ahead of the rest. That will be his fate all his life, as it is the unavoidable concomitant of greatness.

And Jalal is Jalal because Rajat plays him superlatively, repeatedly going beyond the script. With a lesser actor, it would not have been the same thing at all.

I do not know what kind of epic love story is going to be force fed to us now, but the CVs have already cheated me on the feisty, intelligent Jodha I had hoped for, who would be a combination of Diana and Juno, and left us with this blinkered, self-righteous,obstinate female who can do no wrong. Now I am sure I will be cheated on the epic love story as well, for I cannot see how there can be anything epic between such an ill-balanced pair.

But as I had noted in my response above to Meghana, a word can mean what you want it to mean, and so this langda prem katha will be duly labelled epic, and presented as an act of great condescension by Jodha towards Jalal. And why not, if it makes fro the greatest happiness of the greatest number?

If you have the time, do see my post to Meghana above.

Shyamala

Awesome analysis 👏
Totally agree with u!! Now it will interesting to c Akdha's equation changing day by day 😊

Originally posted by: 111192

sorry for jumping in...when hakim sahiba declared jodha pregnant ...jodha blamed jalal fo breaking his promise but wasnt it ruku who blamed Jalal for cheating their friendship...the point which i m trying to make is that it is situation which makes every character go grey ...but here if jodha sneezes whole forum catches cold😆

Originally posted by: elasingh

when Jalal questions Jodha's character, its OK. but when Jodha questions Jalal's character it is not done...some ppl in this forum have become addicted Jodha bashers and it is spoiling our pleasure in the serial...it has started leaving a bad taste in our mouth...

deepa I am not angry at all...but there is just too much Jodha bashing...😃

She is the heroine of the show..have some respect for her too..im getting tired of seeing jodha bashing posts and some are very insulting..

My dear,

@red. You do not have to go to a society as orthodox as Saudi Arabia. Just read Tehmina Durrani's My Feudal Lord, set in late 20th century Pakistan. And as for your other comment about Akbar and Jodha's ghrina lines, you are spot on, and this Jodha is totally, totally unrealistic. So was the one in the film, but much less so as she was nowhere near as rude and confrontational.

The whole serial and large chunks of the viewers are living in a never never land wrt the Jodha-Jalal equation. Moreover, you do not even have to go to the Mughal way of life. Just watch the excellent and far more authentic Maharana Pratap and see how Maharana Udai Singh's 3 queens behave. Jodha and her bhashans at the drop of a hat are pure poppycock!

Shyamala

Originally posted by: loveanime

I also want to point out in realistic portrayals bakshi bano is very real. This is 16th century well before women liberation, can imagine blind devotion to husbands and men in General was the norm. I think I am the only one who felt bad for her. We need to view these characters thru 16th century purdah. And another thing I lived in Saudi for a large part of my life and let me tell you the things that I saw, rumours, expectations of women in that society, how men behaved lot of it people outside that sphere can never wrap their head around some of the stuff would shock and appall people.

Mughal were descendants of Persians so one can imagine the kind of culture that creates women like bakshi bano. If jalal is a true Mughal, I am sure akbar was in real life, at the first ghrina dialogue jodha was toast. But that does not mean I am calling them abusers, culture, way of thinking and expectations was different.

Originally posted by: meghanajain

Originally posted by: elasingh

when Jalal questions Jodha's character, its OK. but when Jodha questions Jalal's character it is not done...some ppl in this forum have become addicted Jodha bashers and it is spoiling our pleasure in the serial...it has started leaving a bad taste in our mouth...