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Posted: 12 years ago
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thanks a for a nice post ⭐️ over all a wounderful epi all the ''catch the suspect case '' comes to end finaly today jalal is the hero 👏 i like rukku scene too felt sad for her i am liking her character she is a power hunger but not evil as MM ,SD,AK hope cvs not make her grey later luv the scene when jodha stops rukku from testing the milk & this surprise rukku too seems ruku & jodha relationship take a turn now don't know friendship happen between these too or not but seems not so soon
jalal bakshi scene is the best part of todays epi ⭐️👏

regarding jodha doubting jalal i think this scene ,convo & wild thaughts of jodha are shown by cvs to clear the tag '' jalal is a womenizer '' ... as the hareem is filled with other jalal queens
i remember even during marrige when jodha father told her that she is going to be jalal queen she replied amongst many oh his queens i will be a one too
but now jodha know the reality & will not complain that jalal disrespect womens

all this pregnacy drama hadl put jodha jalal relationship on the track of trust & it will clears many of the doubts which both have on each others

can't wait for tomorrow epi jodha is feeling bad that she doubted jalal & how will be everyone's reaction when they all come to know SD & BB evil plan
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Nice take over on the episode.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: baubles

Beautifully analysed..I really hope this is the last of grihna and we see Jalal n Jo's relationship growing from here with trust.. Salima's words always touch you..I love this woman! Rajat was amazing in the confrontation scene!👍🏼

Thansk baubles!😊
Yes, Jalal is lucky to have people like Salima, Ruqu and soon Jodha. Looks like his begums are good, its the other people that are creating problems. Eager to see JaJo relationship move forward also.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: roshaeldsouza91

Lol i just loved your last last for precap🤣🤣 Seriously!!

Ruqs wont leave jalal now... false alarm hi sahi kuch toh alarm baja tha na😆 she shouldn't take risk😛 but i want her to take such risk so that ja-jo come closer😆

Loved your Post..

Absolutely how can a woman do such things to a woman🤢 Sad to know such people are present everywhere

Finally jodha come's to know she isn't pregnant.. gaah what a relief😆

In short just loved what you have written megha👍🏼

Thanks Roshael! 😃
Ruqu is going to be even more possesive of Jalal. She wants to be the first one to give Jalal the waris. It will be interesting how Jalal handles this as he will certainly want to spend more time with Jo. Its good for Jo and Ja to know that they can trust each other. Hope they show huge progress and dont go back to the hatred mode again.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tohru

thanks a for a nice post ⭐️ over all a wounderful epi all the ''catch the suspect case '' comes to end finaly today jalal is the hero 👏 i like rukku scene too felt sad for her i am liking her character she is a power hunger but not evil as MM ,SD,AK hope cvs not make her grey later luv the scene when jodha stops rukku from testing the milk & this surprise rukku too seems ruku & jodha relationship take a turn now don't know friendship happen between these too or not but seems not so soon
jalal bakshi scene is the best part of todays epi ⭐️👏

regarding jodha doubting jalal i think this scene ,convo & wild thaughts of jodha are shown by cvs to clear the tag '' jalal is a womenizer '' ... as the hareem is filled with other jalal queens
i remember even during marrige when jodha father told her that she is going to be jalal queen she replied amongst many oh his queens i will be a one too
but now jodha know the reality & will not complain that jalal disrespect womens

all this pregnacy drama hadl put jodha jalal relationship on the track of trust & it will clears many of the doubts which both have on each others

can't wait for tomorrow epi jodha is feeling bad that she doubted jalal & how will be everyone's reaction when they all come to know SD & BB evil plan

Thanks Tohru 😊! So true, mujrim kaun track comes to an end! Hug relief! I just hope that they keep Ruqu's character gray only and never black like MA. Yep, in future Ruqu and Jodha might become good friends.
You are right, Jo will have to understand Ja using her own wisdom. Not what she has heard from others, that the only way she can trust him. The Jalal she has come to know keeps his word and has never taken undue advantage. Yep, tomorrow onwards will be interesting to watch. I will catch up after I come back from vacation.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: meghanajain

Thanks Roshael! 😃
Ruqu is going to be even more possesive of Jalal. She wants to be the first one to give Jalal the waris. It will be interesting how Jalal handles this as he will certainly want to spend more time with Jo. Its good for Jo and Ja to know that they can trust each other. Hope they show huge progress and dont go back to the hatred mode again.


Megha for the bold part i just hope joi fight na ho😆🤣
Mee first mee first😆🤣 its equally funny so many biwi he has how can she keep counts or she says raat ka hisaab lol kuch bhi na🤣 jhooti ruqs kehti hai farak nahi padta ussey wait nahi karti jalal ka fir counts kyun nikalti hai konsa koi report generate karti hai wo😛
pagli ruqs is already possessive about him and hs night counts😆 chess k saath me mathematics favourite tha unka🤣
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: deepika45

Nice take over on the episode.

Thanks Deepika!😛
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: roshaeldsouza91


Megha for the bold part i just hope joi fight na ho😆🤣
Mee first mee first😆🤣 its equally funny so many biwi he has how can she keep counts or she says raat ka hisaab lol kuch bhi na🤣 jhooti ruqs kehti hai farak nahi padta ussey wait nahi karti jalal ka fir counts kyun nikalti hai konsa koi report generate karti hai wo😛
pagli ruqs is already possessive about him and hs night counts😆 chess k saath me mathematics favourite tha unka🤣

Ruqu is obsessed with titles more than anything. She wants the mariyum zumani title also. So till she gets it she will be doing even more detailed reporting on Jalal's nights. But our Jalal is teda and he knows how to handle Ruqu and her temper.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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A very lucid, coherent, logical and comprehensive analysis, my dear, but then I am hardly surprised by that!

Coming to the present point of dissension, more than anything else, Meghana, Jalal was willing to abandon his throne just to keep his word to Jodha. I am continually amazed at how casually such a gigantic gesture is forgotten! I felt very strongly that it was highly irresponsible of him to have made any such offer, which was completely contrary to his rajadharma,but the fact remains that he was willing to make an unbelievable sacrifice for Jodha's sake.

After the tiger mauling, when he thinks he is dying, he does not utter a single word of reproach to Jodha. It was incredible.

He goes out of his way to make sure that Sukanya not only gets married but has a place of honour in her sasural.

I really do not know what more people want from him. I wish Jodha had got married to a proper macho Rajvanshi who beat her daily like Sharifuddin, and had had a vicious nanad and, instead of Hamida who loves her more than her own son, a saas like Meerabai's. Then all these nakhre would have been got out of her long ago, including the idea, bizarre in those times, that her husband had to wait for her explicit consent and pleasure before touching her.

Take a look at Maharana Pratap, which is far more historically authentic (and no wonder it won so many awards at the ITA, to next to none for JA), to see how a proper Rajput queen was expected to behave,especially towards her husband. I do not know where these CVs got their Jodha from, but realistic she is not.

Nor is Jalal for that matter. The real Akbar would not have tolerated all this nonsense from Jodha for a minute, and even if he did not want to do any bal prayog on an unwilling wife, would have pronounced the triple talaq and dumped her back in Amer labelled "psychologically damaged goods". 😉

Jodha is constantly talking of her sanskaars. The first duty of a queen is to produce an heir for her husband's kingdom, and this was dinned into their heads from childhood. Jodha neatly avoids this primary obligation, but she has no hesitation in taking expensive gifts for her whole family, right up to the Ratanpur fort, from the Mughals, on the basis of her being Jalal's begum, though she proclaims constantly that she hates him. Talk of selective rights and obligations! If she had had a saas who reminded her daily of the need for her to produce an heir in short order, Jodha would have soon understood that marriage is not a one way street.

To come back to this latest episode, I knew that Jodha thinks, or rather thought, the very worst of Jalal, but today's was much more degrading stuff than she had ever said to him thus far. That remark about Jalal wanting to have an immediate fling with that baandi left a very bad taste in the mouth. It showed a total lack of refinement in her; I would not have believed it possible that a high born princess could talk like this, no matter what the circumstances,and no matter what the provocation. No wonder that when she made that crass remark , Jalal's face twisted in sudden disgust. Rajat was superb then.

Bakshi Banu's treachery would be a very painful blow to Jalal, for though she was only his stepsister, he loved her dearly. She actually tells Jalal she loves Sharifuddin so much and that she does not want to lose him; as you noted, talk of the beaten woman syndrome!She is proof positive of the saying that the worst criminals are not those who are evil, but those who are weak.

I do not see where it is said that Jalal has forgiven Sharifuddin for the murder of the hakima. All he does is to drop the idea of beheading him personally at once, which was in any case not possible, and he has every intention of catching him later. Whether he will execute him,with Bakshi Banu pleading for his life and Jodha, with Hamida and the rest of the Teen Devian as a supporting chorus, pleading for Bakshi Banu, I expect they will both be let off with a banishment.

Nor do I see why Jodha should become a laughing stock once the truth is known. There would be sympathy, but why would anyone jeer at her?

I loved the way Jalal left the jashn and came out to comfort Ruqaiya, for he knows exactly how she would be feeling; her pain and his pain are the same.

The Jodha-Ruqaiya interaction was a pleasant change from their past exchanges, but this is an exception; I do not think they will ever get on together, not to speak of becoming friends.

If today's precap was any indication, Ruqaiya will try hard to get Jalal back, and on a different plane. But that will very likely not work at all, for Jalal sees his bond with his Gatti as one of lifelong friendship and solidarity, not of anything emotional or tender. The hardest thing of all is to move from friendship to love, and if this shift is one-sided, it creates huge problems.

An orderly, civilized menage a trois ( a household of three ) exists only in the imagination. Life does not settle down into neat compartments, least of all when it comes to love. I do not see it happening here either. To answer a question often asked here, yes, a man can love two women, but in different ways. The question is not that. It rather is whether the two women can live contentedly in their separate compartments, and here I am not referring only to Ruqaiya, but to Jodha as well, once she really falls in love with Jalal.

Well, all this lies on the lap of, not the gods, but the CVs. I am sure that the end result will be melodramatic and unsubtle, not plausible, or logical, or intelligent. Once one accepts that, the rest becomes easier to bear!😉

Shyamala

Originally posted by: meghanajain

Even if we didn't know the ending we do know that both are good at heart. You see how caring he is towards Ruqu, he has always been shown loyal to his near ones then why would we worry about Jodha falling for such a man. He is a man of honor who saved her family from dishonor, its a pride to fall in love with such a man. So, I don't understand your concern at all.

Nope, in future if Jodha tells him something he is not going to take it lightly. He learns from his experiences and understands people much better than Jodha. He will certainly not rule out her opinion like it doesnt matter at all.

Well, Jalal saved Jodha from going through the pain of becoming a laughing stock in front of his ammi. He even took all the blame.

Originally posted by: elasingh


Thanks Ela.
Its hard for me to understand your logic Ela. How does it matter who falls in love first as we know in the end its all going to end happily. Unfortunately, falling in love cannot be measured and calculated based on a person's character. It was high time that Jodha felt that she was wrong in her judgement about Jalal. Just because he is now a better human being in her eyes also does not mean she will fall for him soon. The cultural and religious differences are huge, its going to take longer for Jodha to fall for him. Men do not worry about these things that much, for them the start is always physical attraction and eventually they start falling for the emotional reasons also. Jalal will feel even closer to Jodha now because he knows about her purity. So, don't be so protective about Jodha falling for Jalal as I feel that is not going to happen first. I will be happy though if it happens..
Yes it doesn't matter because we know the ending...but if we didn't know then?

I also do not understand by what you mean he actually doesn't trust Jodha. They are taking steps towards building trust and I feel Jalal has taken way more than Jodha. Ofcourse there are going to be more problems in future, but Jalal will not forget the lessons he has learned. I cant say that about Jodha because that side of her has not been shown yet.
Let her tell him that she heard AK conspiring against him , see his reactions...I feel that statement abt trusting Jodha was a rash statement made by him...

The grief is that Jalal badly wanted this Jashn to be a real one, for him to be a parent. He is not going to be a dad, has been backstabbed but is smiling in front of everyone pretending to be a dad. How he wishes that he was actually becoming a dad and did not want to pretend..
His pain is much less then Jodha who will become laughing stock once this is known...plus he should not have forgiven SD the murder of hakim...just because BB was crying...
Its hard to feel anything for BB, I understand. Unfortunately though people like her exist who are very weak and need someone for support.


Originally posted by: meghanajain

Edited by sashashyam - 12 years ago

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Beautiful analysis Meghana...absolutely beautiful! 👏
Loved EVERY word of it...and it was so balanced!

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