A life likely to be messed up..??

Manonidz thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail + 4
Posted: 11 years ago
#1

What in irony of an unborn despite having loving parents...How would a woman needs to feel when the supposedly protector of her unborn baby thinks to abort it before being born?...RK has been put down by circumstances around him and is psychologically weak enough to think anything beyond failure ...but does it call for aborting an innocent life without even trying once? Abortion should have been the last option but for RK, it was the first solution ...He is not wrong in thinking that he wants a safe and secured life for his baby but why didn't he put up a fight in the first place instead of going for the easiest option? .his life is in a mess but its not a dead end? .its an escapist attitude, according to me ..."palla jhad lo bas" as we say .. ... just bcos he is not perhaps living the best time of his life, another innocent life must not be given a chance to even breathe? ...Is there any guarantee u will be given another chance ? ...as they say make the best out of it ! ...

...its normal to act like this but its not about any domestic issue, its about his own baby...not denying that baby might not get an ideal life to live as he dreamt of giving but at least, he or she will have two loving parents around ... it must have been hard for him to mouth those harsh words but they were daggers on a mother-to-be, whose brief time of joy was turned into another challenge by RK himself ...Her motherly instincts to protect the baby are bound to be alarmed if anything remotely threatening the baby, not sparing love of her life who has alarmed her beyond her worst imaginations ...Madhubala doubting RK intentions is distasteful but so is RK defeatist attitude ! ...her maternal instincts are bound to kick in to guard the unborn no matter what comes her way, not sparing RK ...sooner or later, RK will come around too but hope its not too late to mend things ...With the battle lines drawn bw two ideologies in the coming days, dont know what lies ahead for the innocent one ...hope they come at some common ground before its too late!

PS: ...I seriously don't have even have a shred of pity for some people on this forum who find this issue as a battle for sympathy gainer for RK or Madhu ...Really??🤢 ...its about an unborn life, who is not at fault if it has been conceived ...first priority in current circumstances for both of them should be to give the best possible life to the innocent life if not ideal life....dont know if they will be able to or not, but at least wish for the same ! ...Abortion should be the last resort not the first in any case ! ! .

Edited by Manonids - 11 years ago

Created

Last reply

Replies

51

Views

4.2k

Users

26

Likes

188

Frequent Posters

-SmexyGhost- thumbnail
12th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail Networker 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 11 years ago
#2
Fab post Nids .. Completely agree .
ariangirl thumbnail
11th Anniversary Thumbnail Navigator Thumbnail Commentator Level 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 11 years ago
#3
superb post 👍🏼 loved it
RK n Madhu were right in their perspectives but loved Madhu 's one line what will he do if this thing happens after baby birth
Poluk thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Voyager Thumbnail
Posted: 11 years ago
#4
Just wanted to raise a few points.
You are looking at the situation and analysing it as a woman. A man doesnot think like that.

First and foremost the bond between a father and child develops after it is born. During pregnancy it is the love for his wife that comes to the forefront. And yes a man can be excited at the prospect of a baby. But there is no real love and bonding. ask any father and he will confirm what I am saying.

RK is not the one carrying or feeling the child. But the society has some inbuilt rules and expectations which are weighing heavily on him.

He is supposed to be the protector and provider. On both fronts he is finding himself deficient at this point of time. And as he rightly said love is never sufficient.

Anyone who has actually had a child will confirm. Its a big investment of time, money and energy. A child is not a doll. It has real tangible needs - lots of them in fact. And the needs are to be fulfilled if the child has to be given a safe and happy future.

Yes poor people also have kids but he doesnot belong to that background and it is unimaginable for him to bring a child into the world without financial, physical or even health security (afterall everything takes money).

Almost all the couples now a days wait and get financially settled before opting for a kid. In his case his paralysis was sudden and an unplanned twist of the fate which has left him crippled and unable to earn.

It is not a question of who is getting sympathy out of RM.

It is a question of who is looking foolish and emotional. If MB instead of hitting him had listened to him quietly, it would not have looked so odd. MB's behaviour is coming across as a silly emotional woman who is not able to appreciate the hard realities of life. Life does not follow our dreams or desires.

Yes if the problems had come after the child had been born it would have been the child's luck. But right now MB is forcefully creating an unlucky child - by bringing him into such an environment. There is a huge difference.

MB's feeling hurt or emotional is correct. Her crying is correct. But her mulish stance is not.

The fact is : MB is not thinking about what is good for the baby nor is she considering him/her at this point. She is only considering her feelings as a mother, her emotions, her needs - not the child's needs/future.

Manonidz thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail + 4
Posted: 11 years ago
#5

Originally posted by: Poluk

Just wanted to raise a few points.

You are looking at the situation and analysing it as a woman. A man doesnot think like that.

First and foremost the bond between a father and child develops after it is born. During pregnancy it is the love for his wife that comes to the forefront. And yes a man can be excited at the prospect of a baby. But there is no real love and bonding. ask any father and he will confirm what I am saying.

RK is not the one carrying or feeling the child. But the society has some inbuilt rules and expectations which are weighing heavily on him.

He is supposed to be the protector and provider. On both fronts he is finding himself deficient at this point of time. And as he rightly said love is never sufficient.

Anyone who has actually had a child will confirm. Its a big investment of time, money and energy. A child is not a doll. It has real tangible needs - lots of them in fact. And the needs are to be fulfilled if the child has to be given a safe and happy future.

Yes poor people also have kids but he doesnot belong to that background and it is unimaginable for him to bring a child into the world without financial, physical or even health security (afterall everything takes money).

Almost all the couples now a days wait and get financially settled before opting for a kid. In his case his paralysis was sudden and an unplanned twist of the fate which has left him crippled and unable to earn.

Did I anywhere dismissed RK concerns ? his concerns are genuine but that doesnt justifiy abortion at all. Period ! I m not saying this as a woman but u got to TRY first if its worth enough and that for his own baby, it shldnt have been a big deal ! ...Life is uncertain in itself, let alone the circumstances . There can never be ideal situations in life for ever ...there will come a time sooner or later, when u have tough choices to make ...as Madhu rightly asked what if the situations got unfavorable after the baby ? .He will sell the baby ? ...u fight the situations and if it doesnt work, then resort to such solutions !

It is a question of who is looking foolish and emotional. If MB instead of hitting him had listened to him quietly, it would not have looked so odd. MB's behaviour is coming across as a silly emotional woman who is not able to appreciate the hard realities of life. Life does not follow our dreams or desires.

How an emotionally shocked mother-to-be needs to react when her husband calls for an abortion crying his helpness to raise the baby in idealistic manner ? ...She is bound to react in dramatic way ...Madhubala has been driven by emotions from the very beginning and its no different here ...Did RK care to think how his wife will react to such step knowing how emotional she is ? ..It was outright insensitive on his part !

Yes if the problems had come after the child had been born it would have been the child's luck. But right now MB is forcefully creating an unlucky child - by bringing him into such an environment. There is a huge difference.

@ Bold ...I mean really ?.🥱.. Madhubala creating an unlucky child ? 🥱...Wow ! Madhubala herself didnt had the pleasures of life, so Padmini created an unlucky child ? 🥱...children born in financially difficult conditions are unlucky just bcos they cant enjoy materialistic pleasures ? Its not that they will live like this for ever ...I know ..Pyaar se pet nahe bharta but RK-Madhu arent that miserable they cant give a decent life ! ...Its all about trying instead of acting like losers !


MB's feeling hurt or emotional is correct. Her crying is correct. But her mulish stance is not.

The fact is : MB is not thinking about what is good for the baby nor is she considering him/her at this point. She is only considering her feelings as a mother, her emotions, her needs - not the child's needs/future.

For a child, financial security is important, and so is emotional nurturing ...else RK wouldnt have been so insecure in life ...



Edited by Manonids - 11 years ago
Manonidz thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail + 4
Posted: 11 years ago
#6

Originally posted by: kahkashansakina

Awesome post 👍🏼


thanks !


@ Colorsluv ...thanks !
_Tangled_ thumbnail
12th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 11 years ago
#7

Originally posted by: Poluk

Just wanted to raise a few points.

You are looking at the situation and analysing it as a woman. A man doesnot think like that.

First and foremost the bond between a father and child develops after it is born. During pregnancy it is the love for his wife that comes to the forefront. And yes a man can be excited at the prospect of a baby. But there is no real love and bonding. ask any father and he will confirm what I am saying.

RK is not the one carrying or feeling the child. But the society has some inbuilt rules and expectations which are weighing heavily on him.

He is supposed to be the protector and provider. On both fronts he is finding himself deficient at this point of time. And as he rightly said love is never sufficient.

Anyone who has actually had a child will confirm. Its a big investment of time, money and energy. A child is not a doll. It has real tangible needs - lots of them in fact. And the needs are to be fulfilled if the child has to be given a safe and happy future.

Yes poor people also have kids but he doesnot belong to that background and it is unimaginable for him to bring a child into the world without financial, physical or even health security (afterall everything takes money).

Almost all the couples now a days wait and get financially settled before opting for a kid. In his case his paralysis was sudden and an unplanned twist of the fate which has left him crippled and unable to earn.

It is not a question of who is getting sympathy out of RM.

It is a question of who is looking foolish and emotional. If MB instead of hitting him had listened to him quietly, it would not have looked so odd. MB's behaviour is coming across as a silly emotional woman who is not able to appreciate the hard realities of life. Life does not follow our dreams or desires.

Yes if the problems had come after the child had been born it would have been the child's luck. But right now MB is forcefully creating an unlucky child - by bringing him into such an environment. There is a huge difference.

MB's feeling hurt or emotional is correct. Her crying is correct. But her mulish stance is not.

The fact is : MB is not thinking about what is good for the baby nor is she considering him/her at this point. She is only considering her feelings as a mother, her emotions, her needs - not the child's needs/future.

awesome 👏
Manonidz thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail + 4
Posted: 11 years ago
#8

Originally posted by: ariangirl

superb post 👍🏼 loved it

RK n Madhu were right in their perspectives but loved Madhu 's one line what will he do if this thing happens after baby birth


Thanks ...Life throws challenges to fight out not to surrender in the first place !
_Tangled_ thumbnail
12th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 11 years ago
#9
According to me in the given situation both of them are reacting as per their characteristics and both are correct in their pov so i wont try to justify any1..!!
Krinya thumbnail
18th Anniversary Thumbnail Visit Streak 500 Thumbnail + 8
Posted: 11 years ago
#10

Originally posted by: Poluk


MB's feeling hurt or emotional is correct. Her crying is correct. But her mulish stance is not.

The fact is : MB is not thinking about what is good for the baby nor is she considering him/her at this point. She is only considering her feelings as a mother, her emotions, her needs - not the child's needs/future.


Unfortunately yes..even she cannot palla jhaado with her responsibilities and pass the buck to RK..your disability is your problem, your finances is your problem, your film is your problem, selling your film is your problem, i just know that i want this baby and that's it...even the poorest of all give birth to babies but what kind of life do they give them? children are left begging on the roads without education, little girls and boys living in slums, drinking water from taps, working as daily wage workers, it's a living hell out there...a mother's attachment is to the child who may be born with disability but they have to take a tough decision to abort the child rather than bringing him up and giving him a torturous life...if parents cannot give a good life to the child, better not bring him in this world, it's inhuman...however, RK's case is not this extreme...


@Nids, i'm also very confused as to what might be the best solution to t his problem..certainly not abortion...but at this point, both RK and Madhu are correct..Madhu is being optimistic that the movie will be a hit and all their problems will be over..RK is being a pessimist and a loser , n i dun blame him for it..his life is badly screwed up...just the very thought of losing everything and coming on road is scary..how will they live? RK is paralyzed and how much Madhu earn by working in parlors? a father bears the responsibility of his family's well being , for earning, for giving them a decent life ...can they dream of a rosy future if incase they don't recover their investments? this is not the easiest and first option, what other option does he have except for taking a risk and bhagwan ke sahare sab kuch chodna? that's what most of the people do..my maids also say bache bahgwan ka roop hote hain, woh pal jaate hain 😆


lets not get senti over it., we all know miscarriage will happen one way or the other and blame games will start 🤢 the movie will be super hit and RK ko bheek maangne ki zaroorat nahi padegi..
Edited by _charu_ - 11 years ago

Related Topics

Top

Stay Connected with IndiaForums!

Be the first to know about the latest news, updates, and exclusive content.

Add to Home Screen!

Install this web app on your iPhone for the best experience. It's easy, just tap and then "Add to Home Screen".