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Posted: 12 years ago
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Anandi represents the plight of indian woman. No matter how much sacrifices she makes the test of patience is unending & the more she devotes her life for the family the expectations keeps mounting. The crux of the matter is a single step taken by her for the benefit of herself & if it is in contradiction then it erases her entire goodwill she brought to the family.😡
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Skepblun

I don't know why we need to discuss two people without each other when they are not at all separated! Shiv has not left her. She has not left Shiv.

Also, this dialogue makes no sense.

Anandi was mostly cryptic and thought to herself. Did she ever openly speak out and say to Shiv or other Shekhars that saying anything in this matter was very difficult for her because she was attached to both families and wished well for both? Did she ever say this was awkward for her? Or she was in confusion?

If she claims she values Shiv so much then why didn't openly share things with him?

All these dialogues were trash to appease pendu audience, reduce culpability of Shiv in this situation and also an attempt to sanitise Anandi's position that she was only concerned with her current husband and in laws (as her silence and inaction was giving impression that she was trying to balance between two families).

Shiv has never said he is nothing without Anandi. He never thought once whether she would choose him or Singhs and what if she chose others. He takes her for granted?

Next she should do is to get on her knees and beg him to talk to her and forgive her. (Whether she is cold to him or he is cold to her, it's always she who must get on her knees to plead given her sanskaars by Bhago).


I want to ask one question to you .If shiv said such dialog or even if jagya said such dialog ,would you still call it regressive ,i m sure such dialogs like i cannot live without you ,i m incomplete without you have been said by jagia in past ,but when a man says we dont call it regressive while when a women says it ,it becomes regressive .I believe the flaw is in our perception ,when a women says we look it regressively.

coming to ur other point ,yes she hasnt cleared things with shiv but it isnt easy to speak against his loved ones ,she has to be careful .Otherwise it looks like acts of manipulating wife .Why should she open her mouth when jagya took the entire blame on him,just becoz he doesnt handles situations properly ,she should intervene in his matters ??And she intervene it will be like ex wife intervening ex husband s matters.

Anyways all that dosnt matter to me ,but only point was i dont find her dialog regressive.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Skepblun

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Who is Anandi to decide who's happy in their lives or not? Other women do not protest against their husbands because they are also trained in "Pati parmeshwar" theory. So why does she go and mangle their pativrata?

There is no question of bending or standing upright. Anandi has always been bent only.

Family happiness? Then why didn't she warn Shiv and Shekhars earlier? Why she witholds information from them? Was everything done by her in tune with Shekhars' happiness who were her true family now as she claims?

Don't tell me again and again what all Shiv did for her. She also did a lot for him including saving his life in Kashmir and silently tolerating his sister and mother's viciousness without a word of complaint.

Both have done a lot for each other.

I never said Anandi should fight with Shiv or give him cold treatment too.

But these dialogues coupled with flashbacks of Bhago brainwashing child bride Anandi were crap.

And yes as Hooked said, if Shiv is her God hen she should have confided in every single thing to God and let him judge by himself.

Doormat toh Anandi definitely is. That too of all houses she has been a part of be it Khajaan's, Singhs' or Shekhars'. She even brought her school to haveli at DS' command who did not want her to go outside. Brief period of independence was there as Sarpanch and even that position was forced on her with EB of village and family. Otherwise she is same girl who was brainwashed by Bhago and DS. She proves it again and again every now and then.

(It's amazing how she was given award by CM for Jetsar but before or after that track she never bothered to enquire how it was all going. Preaching to others or doing social work is timepass for her it seems)


Dint everytime anandi share every doubt with shiv ?whenever she felt slightest danger or doubt she told shiv ,from the first time when she sensed sanchi s feelings for jagya till today ,but last time when she came to know about sanchi s lie ,wanted to tell shiv ,shiv wasnt there?I know she could told ira or anyone from KB but may she was more comfortable with shiv and wanted to tell him first.Even if she would have told the truth ,shiv would punish sanchi,slap her but he would never want her marriage to break.If you look from shekhars angle for them ,even if they got the right or true picture of sanchi ,they would still do anything to fix the marriage while from singhs angle ,the wise desicion would be to break off from such girl.

I think what made matters worse jagia s impulsive desicion to marry ganga ,In this mess,nothing could anandi do .Naturally she is considered closest to jagya so naturally she would be blamed.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@ Skep, Anandi and Empathy are synonyms. She learnt this in childhood and unfortunately she has not "unlearned" it after going through so much in life!!

I believe that they both love and respect each other. I'm not just talking about one side of love which is plain passion, a very volatile but transient emotion, with a life span of abt a couple of years...this is what Jagia & Gauri had. A true relationship is where we like to make compromise for all our loved ones which Aji has been doing in Haveli and she got her gift of love and patience...love and care back in many folds.
To make a relationship stays beyond the initial fire there has to be presence of likeness, compassion, compromise and friendship which AnSh have.
Right now if Shiv is sad & mad as his soulless droid sister is heartbroken so he is ignoring all of Aji's conversational gambits that's it. Aji has not felt bad that Sanchi has pushed her or called her J's X. From age 8 she knows that marriage means acceptance and understanding of flaws of all family members not only spouse & it is a source of happiness for her😉 you make think she is doormat I feel she is a good soul who wants happiness for one & all... It is all in the thinking. 😊

Doormat, floormat, closet hanger she is all in one 😆 coz she wants to grow old with Shiv as there is tremendous love in their relationship...now why she did not say & why what went wrong ... makes all the drama. It sure does not call for a war on naritva 😛. J two timing Aji and abandoing her were issues.This is regular marriage stuff. He is cranky coz of his obnoxious sister's freshly broken heart and J's impeccable timing abt confessing his love was icing on the cake.This is what BS told J today.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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TM, I dont disagree with you.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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This type of misunderstandings are normal in every household. One cannot leave impulsively.

Even Gauri tried to save her marriage by resorting to manipulations. Every woman tries to save marriage. Tomorrow even ganga will try to save her marriage if Jagya is angry with her for days.

As for anandi asking chanda to assert, it is a question of physical abuse combined with mental torture and economic implications in poverty ridden families. Anandi's mental torture is very normal and not very grave. At present shekhars maybe unreasonably angry but they wont be like that forever. And anandi experienced their goodness also. Dont our parents get angry with us sometimes unreasonably and do we decide to leave home impulsively? Sometimes it is better not to argue and allow things to cool down. Anandi is on a slow burner and if things reach a crescendo, she may decide to act.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Skepblun

Knowing that husband is happy in bar and with his drinks, Chanda must be happy too. Then why did Anandi meddle in her life?

Other women must also feel their pati is parmeshwar. They must be putting up with everything thinking it was understanding and patience on their part or their duty or destiny.

Why does Anandi interfere in their lives and preach to them?

If Bhago's preaching was Gospel for her then similar preaching by other women to their daughters is Gospel for them. Who is Anandi to deliver sermons to them and send their husbands to jail or arrive at their houses uninvited with police and DC to meddle in their matters?

Stop putting up these masks outside!


Agreed! I am totally fed up of the way A's character has been developed. She just can't stop giving lectures to people (including her in laws!) and interfering in everyone's lives. She is an example of someone who has no courage of her convictions - very willing to advise others, but can't put that into practices herself.

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