JA Nov 8th - Jalal handles TANTRUMS of his toddlers, OOPS his Begums

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Posted: 11 years ago
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I can only say HATS OFF to Jalal for having the talent of pacifying his two tantrum queens - Ruqu and Jodha. He must be thanking the day he married Salima, who is exact opposite of these two. Jalal's future as a father is very bright, can't say the same about his two tantrum queens who need so much of attention. The last scene where Jalal pacifies Ruqu looked like a parent trying to pacify an out of control cranky kid. A kid who does not like the fact that the other sibling, oops other begum got more attention. The sad part is though that this was no kid, it was 'mallika-e-khaas'. I lost all respect for Ruqu today and to some extent even Jalal. The only thing that matters to Ruqu is her audha, title, power and every other superficial thing that exists. The only way she can get all of those things is if she keeps being Jalal's THE special begum. Jalal entertains Ruqu's fantasies of being the only khaas begum and that no one has it in them to take her mallika-e-khaas title. The moment this is announced Ruqu's tantrums vanish and she is ready to even find the best gift she owns for Jodha. Jalal praises her for this, how artificial did that praise sound? Only an artificial superficial person like Ruqu could get carried away by those praises. She buys the simple reasoning Jalal gives her that all this was done because of his ammijaan. As long as Jalal was not involved in the party planning, did not even buy a gift for Jodha - Ruqu feels safe that Jalal still does not care for Jodha.

The reason I lost some respect for Jalal is because he told Ruqu what she wanted to hear, not what he felt would have been right. A stable parent would have told the cranky kid both the siblings are equally important and both have their own place. He was very polished and diplomatic in handling Ruqu. The way he makes her sit, have the sharbat, arrrgh. I am not mad because he did all this to Ruqu and not to Jodha. It was so childlike and artificial. He knows the only way Ruqu would pacify is by these childish acts and he stoops to that level just for her. He tells her that the half truth (lie) party idea was his moms, and before she can ask more questions he makes her drink the juice. I feel he is making her believe also that he has not planned a gift for Jodha, a lie! He knows very well that Jodha matters, he desires her company, is in awe with all her qualities - but convinces Ruqu that she can never take Ruqu's audha! I wonder how long he is going to entertain the child in Ruqu, may be till he is sure about his feelings for Jodha. It would be too late by then Jalal, Ruqu's hurt will be deeper as she will consider all your half truths as pure black lies! I just hope on Monday, Jalal refuses Ruqu's idea of gift. The diplomat that you are, I am sure you can fool her with some lame excuse. I have never felt proud of one thing that Ruqu has done so far, but have seen Jalal praise her some many times. I wonder what other useless begums he has married to, as his most khaas begum is pretty dumb also! The only excuse I can come up for Jalal's way of dealing with Ruqu is that he is used to that way from their childhood. He has known no other way and did not feel the need for new one to be found. You are in for a huge shock Jalal, as this will not work as your feelings for Jodha become more clearer.

I can now understand why the kid in Jalal wants Jodha's attention. Right now he does not get it seedhe tarike so he demands it from Jodha. Be it the shoulder pain, head pain, sing for him, play with him. That gives him peace as he is exhausted maintaining his HIGH maintenance Ruqu begum. So, when Jodha cooks out of free will for him- Jalal is overwhelmed and overjoyed. I almost mistook it for him being in love. But, it was this peace that he felt after never having anyone pamper him this way. He is the one who has jhelofied the naaj naakhre, desperately wants Jodha to do that for him.


The other toddler, oops begum Jalal has been handling is Jodha. She continues to show him attitude, but has smaller tantrums and hence he manages to deal with her more easily. She runs to him with questions and Jalal rightfully says 'janamdin ke din bhi sawaal aur ghussa'. Jodha, don't believe Jalal. He has full drishti on you and is thinking of all ways to visit you, spend time with you. Jodha is one lucky girl for sure. Jalal makes sure that the entire Jodha fan club finds out about her bday and make it as special it was in Amer. She gets dual blessings from Amer and Agra. Rahim's gesture was the cutest so far, hope Jalal beats it by something even more special. I know Jodha, you do not have any hopes from Jalal. If you only asked the forum girls we would tell you that we have NO hopes from you, only from Jalal. I am pretty sure he will give her something like a book, animal/bird/horse, shamsheer or something like that which will touch her. After all he has witnessed what Rahim got in reward for such a sweet gesture. He wants the exact same sweet from you Jodha as his return gift - be ready to kiss Jalal! We all knew that Jalal's ring would sway the scale, it was still good to see that happen! Atleast Jodha did not call it as a chaal or anything.


Precap: It's two geedads chaal (Kamin/adhamuddin), cannot be Ruqu as I have never seen her black and Jalal has pacified her enough. I am not going to comment any further as I still hope the spoiler is false! BTW, Jodha you always looked to ammijaan for approval. Now, you looked at Jalal to get his approval to drink the sherbat. That tells me he has given you the gift that was beyond your imagination and expectation!


My Prediction:
If the spoiler comes true I feel this will be a test for Jalal, just like MC was for Jodha. After Jalal clears this test, her feelings for him will be of more respect and may be even love.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nice take! Quite like the title!
Jalaal's multiple shades/layers came into picture today!
I'm not sure I approve of Jalaal's way of handling ruqu... As He told what she wanted to hear but again did mislead her. He was anything but genuine. And why cant he not discuss one begum with the other. Why should Jalaal/Ruqu discuss his relationship with Jodha.?
Even with Jodha, I couldn't see the warmth today. His mind is quite complex and we could see that.
Thank goodness we live in the 21st century were we don't have these kind of issues...:-)
Any case am still hoping he would give Jodha a gift that would mean something and not a material gift.
Possibly fixed vase? I was thinking restoring Kali temple jewels but now after the recent uproar from clerics and now them in Agra that's doubtful. Or maybe formally giving her the title Mallika-E-Hunnar?
Rahim and his wishing Jodha was as delightful as could be...
Edited by prejudiced - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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meghana I disagree with you today...Why are you angry with Ruku? She didn't say much abt Jodha...and Jodha is not her wife...
Jalal was the one who was demeaning Jodha and he is married to her too..
He didn't need to put Jodha down to pacify Ruku...I think Jalal is not layered but he is two faced...Just last night he called Jodha hunar ki mallika and next scene you see is that he is telling Ruku that Jo cant stand in front of her...I have lost all respect for him today...

Trp's are falling every week ...If love track is shown like this then god only can help this serial...


Once again I am filled with disgust at Jalal's behavior and your defence of his actions seem weak...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: prejudiced

Nice analysis! Quite like the title!

Jalaal's multiple shades/layers came into picture today!
I'm not sure I approve of Jalaal's way of handling ruqu. As He told what she wanted to hear but again did mislead her. He was anything but genuine. And why cant he not discuss one begum with the other. Why should Jalaal/Ruqu discuss his relationship with Jodha.?
Thank goodness we live in the 21st century were we don't have these kind of issues...:-)
Any case am still hoping he would give Jodha a gift that would mean something and not a material gift.
Possibly fixed vase? I was thinking restoring Kali temple jewels but now after the recent uproar from clerics and now them in Agra that's doubtful. Or maybe formally giving her the title Mallika-E-Hunnar?
Rahim and his wishing Jodha was as delightful as could be...

Thanks buddy for liking the post and the title! I agree and so did my post with what you feel about Jalal's way of handling Ruqu. He started the discussion initially about Jodha, now Ruqu is not going to let it go. Yep, I am glad we are in 21st century. I cannot relate to any of this crap.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: elasingh

meghana I disagree with you today...Why are you angry with Ruku? She didn't say much abt Jodha...and Jodha is not her wife...

Jalal was the one who was demeaning Jodha and he is married to her too..
He didn't need to put Jodha down to pacify Ruku...I think Jalal is not layered but he is two faced...Just last night he called Jodha hunar ki mallika and next scene you see is that he is telling Ruku that Jo cant stand in front of her...I have lost all respect for him today...

Trp's are falling every week ...If love track is shown like this then god only can help this serial...


Once again I am filled with disgust at Jalal's behavior and your defence of his actions seem weak...

Ela - I appreciate your honest feedback, so thanks for that. Ruqu was NOT one bit acting like a queen, she was a kid throwing tantrum. The only way Jalal knows how to pacify her is by sucking into her demands - which is tell her she is the ONE and ONLY ONE. I did not feel in anyway he demeaned Jodha. He means it when he says nobody can take Ruqu's place. The reason he feels Jodha cannot take the khaas position and harem mgmt is because she does not have the wickedness/politics like Ruqu. The reason I lost respect for him is that he finds the easiest route to solace her and hide his actual feelings. The only reason I could bail him out partially is because he is used to this since childhood and those habits are hard to change. The other part is she is the only who understands his brain or to some extent his needs. He values that friendship and hence tells her partial truth. To me though, he was not unfair to Jodha. He will not give that necklace to Jodha, (please don't prove me wrong JALAL) will gift her something meaningful!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: elasingh

meghana I disagree with you today...Why are you angry with Ruku? She didn't say much abt Jodha...and Jodha is not her wife...

Jalal was the one who was demeaning Jodha and he is married to her too..
He didn't need to put Jodha down to pacify Ruku...I think Jalal is not layered but he is two faced...Just last night he called Jodha hunar ki mallika and next scene you see is that he is telling Ruku that Jo cant stand in front of her...I have lost all respect for him today...

Trp's are falling every week ...If love track is shown like this then god only can help this serial...


Once again I am filled with disgust at Jalal's behavior and your defence of his actions seem weak...

BTW, I added another para about why Jalal demands Jodha's attention as a lightning just struck me and I got enlightened.😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Sorry meghana I am no Ruku lover but today I didn't find her out of line...As a woman , I could very well understand her insecurities ...But there can be absolutely no justification for Jalal's words today...He was not acting like a husband to both the women but only as a husband to Ruku...
he has clearly demeaned Jo to placate Ruku and this is completely wrong...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Great post!😊

I completely understand what you're saying in regards to the Jalal-Ruqqu scene today. She is acting like a brat, and he shouldn't have to feed her ego to make her feel better. But it seems like Ruqs has always been like this. Very spoiled, bratty, and power hungry. She has been ruling the harem since God knows when, and her possessive friendship with Jalal goes back so many years.

I'm not exactly defending what happened, but I just feel like it's the norm in their relationship. Like you said, this has most likely been happening since childhood and he doesn't know any other way of handling Ruqs. I'm really curious to see what all will happen when he does realize his feelings for Jodha. At that point, he won't play any games and he'll be mature enough to be honest with Ruqs. I'm hoping Ruqs will have gained enough maturity to deal with it.

I've been thinking about the gift; I agree that it will be something simple, yet significant. However, as in most serials, I was thinking that things will turn upside down before Jalal will be able to give the gift. IF there's some kind of separation/trust issue track (fake pregnancy or not) I think the gift would symbolize the lost sweet memories between the two, for Jalal. It would be a beautiful inclusion to a tumultuous track and it could be the conclusion of it as well. Of course, he could gift it to Jodha on Monday, and then it would symbolize their memories for HER, during their bad times. Either way, I'd love it! Another meaningful item to add to our list!

I still hope the spoiler is false. I do believe Jalal and Jodha need to suffer another blow to their relationship, to emerge a little bit stronger. BUT I like to see this happening at their own hands, not because of the conspiracies of others. I want to see Jalal-Jodha make mistakes on their OWN and then let them deal with it together. Like how Jodha was at fault for the tiger attack. We never got closure on that, but it would've done wonders for their relationship if they continued with that track. The suicide track also came about because of JJ's own words and actions.

Regardless of what happens, we know something negative is on its way, so I guess we just have to buck up and make our way through the storm 😊

Edited by preet_pal320 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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sorry for double post...
Edited by elasingh - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Again this argument that he has not realised his feelings for Jodha that is why he said so is completely wrong...Who cares if he has realised his love for her or not?
All I know is that I dont have to love a person to give them due respect...and it is a wrong thing to talk behind one's back...

He has one face for Jodha and one face for Ruku...What he tells Jodha, he himself negates it in front of Ruku...

Which Jalal is true?

Again saying that Ruku is acting like a spoilt kid is like shifting the blame to her for Jalal's action...
Edited by elasingh - 11 years ago

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