Jodha Akbar 94: 'I' stands for Integrity

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Folks

I had not done any posts after Wednesday last, either for 93 or 94, the latter mainly because the only aspect about which I have a different take from the roseate romanticism flooding the forum over the weekend, did not seem to justify a full post.

In any case, once one decides that all of Jodha's acts of commission and omission are governed solely her hidden pyaar for the Shahehshah, which she is held to be deliberately masking, when with him, with her arrogance and her obtuseness, there is nothing that one cannot explain or explain away. For the others, there is not arguing with this approach, for it is a self-fulfilling one.

Unless of course Jodha does an about turn again tonight or the day after, when Jalal, as is very likely, refuses to believer her 'evidence' against Sharifuddin and Adhan (Badiammi is sacrosanct for Jalal, and Jodha, if she has any commonsense, would do well to leave her out of her prosecutor's brief).

To revert, I was not in for most of the weekend, and then again, it seemed to be too late today to comment on Episode 94 alone . But I could not let all those kind and detailed comments on my Wednesday thread go unanswered, so I did an omnibus response, bringing things up to the Friday Episode 94.

Having done that, I decided that I might just as well share it with all of you, especially as the key element here - the integrity argument - is not limited to Friday's episode, but might be relevant for a while to come.

So here goes, and those short of time, or patience, or both, can move down to the part marked Episode 94!

Post Episode 92: My state of mind on Thursday morning was perhaps best summed up in what I wrote on another thread: I think one can twist oneself into knots trying to explain the Jalal and the Jodha one saw last night, and still get nowhere.She was appalling, and he was inexplicable in his sudden swing from controlled bitterness to what has been aptly described elsewhere as chichorapan.

Episode 93 (Thursday): 'I' stands for Inconsistency:

What followed on Thursday was partly dismaying, partly reassuring. To my mind, what the Jodha-Jalal scene is Episode 93 showed is the yoyo tendency among the script writers, leading to a total inconsistency of characterisation for both Jalal and, even more so, for Jodha.

The scene the day before was very unpleasant, but it was in a way mature in its very off putting harshness, like something out of Who is afraid of Virginia Woolf?

Thursday had the two of them doing a Govinda-Karishma Kapoor impersonation.

I was more startled than anything else to see Rajat do a Govinda without any warning, and I, frankly, as an old fuddy duddy of GenPrevious, who feels awkward with double entendres and the like,
did not like it. It could easily have been scripted sensually instead of like a version of sarkaiyo khatiya jaada lage!

I never watched IPKKND but the odd episode, but I can visualise how Arnav Singh Raizada would have wooed a reluctant bride. Not like this, I am sure. It was not really vulgar, and it was quite funny, but I would definitely have preferred more intelligent if even more aggressive sensuality. And of course Rajat was marvellous, but what is new there? The boy is a perennial source of wonderment to me.

Partly reassuring because, and this came to me as a profound relief, Jalal did not turn into a lovesick poodle, as I had feared, nor did they make him do a Salman Khan in HAHK , with a dupatta over his shahi pagdi! Yes, yes, I know that would never have been an option, but given the shock that Jodha gave me the day before, I have become profoundly distrustful of even these CVs, generally far superior to the run of the mill lot at Balaji.

I was very happy that Jalal was dominating, unsettling, and even,as Vicki put it so well, predatory. Anything, even the Govinda act, was better than Jalal as a doormat to be walked over.

Inconsistency: This said, the total lack of consistency in Jodha's characterisation was bewildering. Watch her in the kahin bhi jaake mariye, par hamare Amer mein nahin scene, lecturing him on her life and his, and look at her the very next day!

The CVs have obviously never heard of either progressive track development or of intelligent romance. It has to be the icebox or the khatiya, it seems, nothing in between. Alas for my hopes of a Jalal-Jodha between whom there is mutual caring and affection developing, slowly but surely...an edgy friendship morphing, insensibly, into love.

I suppose I should be grateful if Ekta does not decide to graduate from the Govinda template and borrow scenes from her contemporary horror shows like Kya kool hai hum in future episodes!

Episode 94 (Friday): 'I' stands for Integrity:

The outpouring of relief and joy across the forum, after Jodha's ringing endorsement of the Shahenshah's refusal to hand over the Ratanpur fort, was directly proportional to their residual worries, the Govinda-Karishma stunt notwithstanding, that there would be a reversion of the cold war between them over this issue.

There was a near unanimous attribution of her endorsement of Jalal's stand on the fort to her caring, if not love as yet, for him, and her protectiveness of him, and never mind if neither of these was anywhere in evidence on Wednesday night. She was just keeping them carefully under wraps, you see!😉

As for Jalal, the bulk of the forum was in ecstasy over his referring to her as apni Jodha Begum.

My own take on this episode is rather different, and if you consider it carefully, you just might agree with me that this take is more consistent with Jodha's yoyo like behaviour over the last week.

To my mind, nothing of what Jodha - or Jalal for that matter - does in this episode is dependent on the current state of their relationship. It is solely a question of the personal integrity of each of them.

Jalal would have called her apni Jodha Begum in any case, for that is what she is. Remember what he tells Mahaam in that quasi-soliloquy about ek hi kashti mein sawaar? She is his legally wedded wife, and so is entitled to all the public and private respect that goes with that position. As for the possessive adjective, what else would she be but his Jodha Begum? He would not refer to her as if she was some casual outsider.

As for Jodha, she defends Jalal because of her sense of right and wrong is always very clear. She knows that he is a man of his word, and so she backs him by saying that HE did not give this promise. It need have nothing to do with a greater understanding of what it means to be an emperor, as man are happily concluding. In fact I am pretty sure it does not.

As I wrote to Lashy in response to her question on her thread, it is not just a question of Jodha's personal integrity but of her assessment of the Shahenshah's personal integrity as well. She knows that he has kept every promise he ever made to her, even when it was something that went completely against the grain for him. As he never tires of repeating, the Shahenshah's word is patthar ki lakeer. So, it is but natural that she defends him on the promise issue, affirming that if he said he had not given that promise, it meant that he had not. This does not need any new and warm personal feelings for him on her part at all; it is her objective assessment of Jalal's persona.

The only change now is that she does not deny or contradict , as was her habit earlier, whatever good she has learnt about him from his behaviour, and dismiss it by saying "Isme bhi unki koyi chal hogi" As no one can prove a negative, she was home and dry, and did not need to face up to facts at all.

But she now takes it all at face value, that he has been a man of integrity in the matter of Sukanya's marriage as well. The elaborate statement of backup arguments to buttress her affirmation is the same, though in a different context, as the arguments she once offered against the execution of Abdul.

That she perceives and accepts Jalal'a integrity is obviously the cumulative impact of a number of recent happenings: his not having uttered a word of blame to her for the narnaal fiasco, his epiphany at Ajmer which makes her conclude that he too is a man of God, and finally what he did to fulfil her sankalp during the Kali Mandir visit. But still, at the end of the day, it comes round to her faith in his integrity, in being what he appears to be.

Secondly, her stand against the demand for the durg need have nothing to do with anything she feels for Jalal, any more that Pratap's identical reaction has. She thinks such extortionate and improper demands are disgraceful, and that the Dhawalgarh lot have no right to demand as part of the kanyadhan something that does not belong to Amer and is thus not theirs to give, and she says so.

It is another matter that, with her usual disregard for logic, she brushes aside the point repeatedly made by Bhagwan Das, that it is not now a question of whom the fort belongs to, but of a promise made, if not by the Shahenshah, then on his behalf, and thus of the violation of that promise.

There is nothing new in her opposing her own family. She did it even for Abdul, remember? She marches to the sound of her own drummer.

So do both Jalal and Pratap. The latter was superlative on Friday, and Jalal was all Emperor, at long last. His looking at Jodha just before he leaves the assembly, a look that conveys both his inability to do anything else and his regret at that, is his only concession to his personal ties to those involved.

All this said, I am getting to be rather tired of all this parsing every look and every word of this couple in 9 columns, as we used to do in my schooldays in English grammar classes.

This seems, increasingly, to be all the more pointless as the character graphs oscillate wildly from episode to episode, as far as the Jalal-Jodha equations are concerned.

But their sense of personal integrity is a constant. It is like the difference between those grossly misleading promos and a precap. I thus prefer to base myself on this integrity angle to try and explain what each, and especially Jodha, does.

Need for voice-overs in Jodha's solo scenes: Lastly, I agree with Lashy that there is a sad lack of any voice overs showing Jodha arguing with herself or mulling things over, about Jalal and otherwise.

I have long felt the same, and I have written in the past about this absence of such an inner voice, in the solo scenes for Jodha, being a roadblock when the viewers try to understand what makes her tick. The only exception to this was the Green Jodha /Yellow Jodha scene, but that was a one shot affair, never repeated. Jalal has the occasional scene of him ruminating and thinking aloud. Jodha, never, bar that one exception.

This should be rectified, but it will not be. This will be, to my mind, not because the CVs are not sure of themselves. It seems rather to be because they want to keep open the one step forwards, 2 steps backwards option. Otherwise, how will they churn out 500 episodes?

Shyamala

PS: The Dhawalgarh Raja looks like a character out of Ratatouille. There is something very ratlike about his face, don't you agree?😉

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Posted: 11 years ago
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🤣 @your PS, aunty!! I completely agree!! That's exactly what I was thinking too!!


It is a momentous happening in any case, Jodha defending Jalal against her family. She did it for Abdul out of her deep sense of compassion & Moral Code. But the whole meaning changes when it comes to Jalal, because she treats him completely & totally different than all the rest.

She believes , or atleast used to believe, very bitterly , that Jalal was never a Man Of Honour. Of Commitment . Brushing aside every instance that proved exactly the opposite & brought Jodha to the Reality!

It was upto Moti Bai to tell her time & again, "Hey! hold your high & grand horses Jodha! Your husband, the Emperor, has fulfilled every wish of yours! Moreover, he is your husband. Of course he will listen to you out of the bond that you formed with him in Saambhar , and because he has shown himself time & again, as a man who honours every vachan he takes."

Jodha breaks many rules when it comes to Jalal. Of her own personal codes of functioning.

To see her, go up against her own family & go as far as saying, "Hum Shahenshaah ke saath hain" in effect stating, that if you agree with this gross barter exchange taking place; then I , Jodha, do not side with you, but with my husband, is a seemingly small, but huge, development. 😊


And while I do not agree that it has only to do with her hidden (yes, she does feel for Jalal & yes, she tries her best to hide. It it isn't my rosy romantic nature which believes this, but plain sense can see it too) care for Jalal; but out of her own strong belief that he is a true man who sticks to every promise made. If he didn't make this promise, then he did not. And no-one has the right to take away what is his, from him.


And this way is much, much better. For Jodha can never truly love a man unless he has his own sound & strong Honour & Committment to Word. Now that she has realised it, she is well on her way to falling in love with Jalal. 😊

It had to come from her & come this way, the way it did. Not from the blind care of a woman who is in love with her husband. Which Jodha certainly isn't as of now. But from a very compassionate, strong & honourable young woman who recognises these qualities in a man who happens to be her husband. 😊

P. S. I didn't realise you made a new thread, so copy-pasted what I wrote on your episode no. 92 analysis.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thanks for the lovely post Aunty.⭐️

I felt Jodha defending Jalal was more because she knows him.. he never goes back on his word.. no matter what.

But I see no way Jodha can prove Cheapuddin lied. I don't understand why the prince goes and confides in Jodha.. How does he assume that she will listen to him? He doesn't know her.. Is she so popular? Plus, why doesn't he open his mouth. His excuse that you know we can't talk back to our parents sounded absurd to me😕 😡

I hope Jodha uses her brain this time. She knows he will never believe her.
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Dear Aunty ,

You seemed to have poured my thoughts in this post of yours, on friday after watching the episode i knew th forum would be flooded , flooded with the sighs n relief tht jodha cares , however i refrained from commenting about the same in any of the posts n yesterday night i read lashy's post n there was your answer , in stating tht jodha did it because of her belief in shenshah's integrity, which is absolutely true .

The C.V'S r purposefully showing such scenes n keeping them open ended , where in jodha gets to behave the way she wants ,some days patient , understand n righteous n on other days all haughty, rude n puffed up because of jalal. The only thing/scene tht can decipher what is going on in her brain would be her thoughts or voice over or if they show her even discussing her duvidha or her changing attitude with moti ... don't worry aunty the scene would come , just when we would be tired of all her pranks n the C.V's would finally resolve to put end to this labyrinth , they have created .
( which of course would take another 100 episodes at the least)

For now ,what remains to be seen is how exactly would our pyaari jodha deal with the current situation .Would she go to shenshah , n if yes how would she present her case ? n who all shall she blame ? . I hope she deals , this issue with some common sense n experience . She should not blindly point out fingers at shreef, adham n MA .Rather learn from her previous lessons with MA .

Also , if jalal himself finds out a solution to this problem before jodha reaches his chambers, tht would be just perfect , which i think is very unlikely to happen .

For now , even after this marriage we would see jodha oscillate between good n rude , n if this does not happen then tht would mean jodha has moved one step forward as far as her relation with jalal is concerned .

Kashi
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Thank You Shyamala for the lovely post👏. As always you have brought a new perspective to the whole episode...it's treat to read your posts.
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First of All Aunty, Kudos to you for this awesome Analysis!!👏👏👏👏👏👏
For me the best part was---
"Jalal would have called her apni Jodha Begum in any case, for that is what she is. Remember what he tells Mahaam in that quasi-soliloquy about ek hi kashti mein sawaar? She is his legally wedded wife, and so is entitled to all the public and private respect that goes with that position. As for the possessive adjective, what else would she be but his Jodha Begum? He would not refer to her as if she was some casual outsider.

As for Jodha, she defends Jalal because of her sense of right and wrong is always very clear. She knows that he is a man of his word, and so she backs him by saying that HE did not give this promise. It need have nothing to do with a greater understanding of what it means to be an emperor, as man are happily concluding. In fact I am pretty sure it does not.
"
I totally agree !! It was not at all related to their "kind of blooming romance" that we all were making out!! Thanks a lot!!👏👏👏👏👏
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Thank you so much, Princess! I am glad to see that some of us are willing to swim against the tide. Let us see how far we get with this contrary take!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: PrincessNany

First of All Aunty, Kudos to you for this awesome Analysis!!👏

For me the best part was---
"Jalal would have called her apni Jodha Begum in any case, for that is what she is. Remember what he tells Mahaam in that quasi-soliloquy about ek hi kashti mein sawaar? She is his legally wedded wife, and so is entitled to all the public and private respect that goes with that position. As for the possessive adjective, what else would she be but his Jodha Begum? He would not refer to her as if she was some casual outsider.

As for Jodha, she defends Jalal because of her sense of right and wrong is always very clear. She knows that he is a man of his word, and so she backs him by saying that HE did not give this promise. It need have nothing to do with a greater understanding of what it means to be an emperor, as man are happily concluding. In fact I am pretty sure it does not.
"
I totally agree !! It was not at all related to their "kind of blooming romance" that we all were making out!! Thanks a lot!!👏

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Thank you, Nandini, for the appreciation, and even more so for sharing this different viewpoint on the whole Jodha-Jalal equation as it stands at present. At times, when I feel that I am being drowned in the relentless tide of romanticism in the forum, comments like yours are something to hold on to.

Shyamala

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Thank You Shyamala for the lovely post👏. As always you have brought a new perspective to the whole episode...it's treat to read your posts.

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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Thank you so much, Princess! I am glad to see that some of us are willing to swim against the tide. Let us see how far we get with this contrary take!

Shyamala Aunty

Agree.. The support they had for each other cannot be at all, equated to new blooming romance..Not at all !! I agree..😛😛😛
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Well, Kashi, your first sentence made my afternoon, if not my day, and as for the rest, no pendulum ever comes to rest so soon. More oscillations are only to be expected.

This post, which is an edited version of my omnibus response on my own thread today, originated, as you have found out yourself, in what I wrote for Lashy on her thread. Let us see how much sense it makes and for how many.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: ginco

Dear Aunty ,

You seemed to have poured my thoughts in this post of yours, on friday after watching the episode i knew th forum would be flooded , flooded with the sighs n relief tht jodha cares , however i refrained from commenting about the same in any of the posts n yesterday night i read lashy's post n there was your answer , in stating tht jodha did it because of her belief in shenshah's integrity, which is absolutely true .

The C.V'S r purposefully showing such scenes n keeping them open ended , where in jodha gets to behave the way she wants ,some days patient , understand n righteous n on other days all haughty, rude n puffed up because of jalal. The only thing/scene tht can decipher what is going on in her brain would be her thoughts or voice over or if they show her even discussing her duvidha or her changing attitude with moti ... don't worry aunty the scene would come , just when we would be tired of all her pranks n the C.V's would finally resolve to put end to this labyrinth , they have created .
( which of course would take another 100 episodes at the least)

For now ,what remains to be seen is how exactly would our pyaari jodha deal with the current situation .Would she go to shenshah , n if yes how would she present her case ? n who all shall she blame ? . I hope she deals , this issue with some common sense n experience . She should not blindly point out fingers at shreef, adham n MA .Rather learn from her previous lessons with MA .

Also , if jalal himself finds out a solution to this problem before jodha reaches his chambers, tht would be just perfect , which i think is very unlikely to happen .

For now , even after this marriage we would see jodha oscillate between good n rude , n if this does not happen then tht would mean jodha has moved one step forward as far as her relation with jalal is concerned .

Kashi

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