Jodha-Jalaal: Aapse koi prem nahiin kartaa?

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Today was the day of an emotionally egoistic Jodha and an emotionally aggressive Jalaal.

Here's how:

" Dayumn! And I thought for two seconds or so that you are actually worrying about my life, Jodha Beghum. But of course, how can i forget , your mental and emotional geography ends on Amer. Infact , why did i even think in that direction? You are one of those few enemies of mine who come and tell me on my face that they hate me. I shouldn't forget that you are my enemy. And don't you dare ever ever commit the crime of taking pity on me and my lonely imperial throne. I am cool with the life that I have because destiny has chosen me. My head fits the crown and this is my life. And no, I have no regrets . I may always be alone, never loved , always under the sword , but am proud of my destiny."

-Jalaal

" I don't have the courage , the wisdom or the strength to hold this crown on my head or take decisions as a king. I am not hating on you today. I am feeling mercy on you because I don't understand how you can live this heavyweight life which always hangs by a fragile thread, where you are in no position to trust your own people and live a normal life of a human-being. Don't you ever feel suffocated? You are unloved. Doesn't that bother you at all? I cannot live that kind of a life , so here, take your crown , your sword and your robes. I am not fit to take this load and nor do i have any inclination to do so."

-Jodha.


When Jodha had come zooming into Jalaal's room. after Hyperwati was more concerned about Sukanya's marriage , her first thought and frame of mind was Jalaal's safety , not Amer. Had that not been the case, Jodha would have never started her song with - " Kya aap nahiin jaante ki aapka jeevan sankat mein hai? Isse pehle bhi aap par nauka vihaar ke samay aakraman ho chuka hai."... TING TONG! The boating attack incident did not happen in Amer , Jodha. It happened enroute to Amer. ...

Its only when Jalaal looks at her and asks her his fave question these days - " Kya aapko sacch mein hamaari fikar honne lagee hai, Jodha Beghum?" , that Jodha snaps out of her pro-Jalaal mode and switches to " Humein hamaare Baapu sa aur Sukanya ki shaadi ki chinta hai ' mode ( like i had already told you yesterday in my post ) ...and she ensures that Jalaal listens the whole checklist of Amer-ki-safety.

That does it for Jalaal and his lid blows off. He bashes Jodha verbally right-left-center , never softening for even a second except the WTBEEP and struck look when Jodha mentions - " Aapko buraa nahiin lagtaa ki aapse koi prem nahiin kartaa?" to him. He , very very clearly makes her a part of the enemy crowd who hate him - infact , if you listen to the conversation properly , you realize that in his fit of Hawaai-frustration and emotionally aggressive reaction , Jalaal almost calls Jodha the same as 'aasteen ka saanp' . You can see the colours of rage and disbelief coming and going from Jodha's face. Jodha understands what he is trying to say - counting her as a hater and an enemy and calling himself all alone.

This is when Jodha tells Jalaal the same words that she had told him when he was almost dying of the tiger attack- That what use is this throne and crown if you have no faith in your own people and nobody loves you? Why should i hate you when all i feel right now for you is sympathy? Yes, Jodha , for the second time reminded Jalaal that he is all alone and nobody loves him. Well, ideally, Jodha had no need to say all this to him. After he verbally thrashes her in response to Amer-ki-chintaa , she should have just walked out. She didn't. She couldn't believe that Jalaal just counted her in enemies who come and slap it in his face that they hate him. Jalaal was telling the truth and there is no reason that Jodha should have taken it badly , but she did. So, what if Jalaal calls himself alone , unloved and sees everyone around him as an enemy, You have no right to feel pity on him, Jodha... and its none of your business if Jalaal is unloved... or is it? Think it over, Chudail Shehzaadi.

I am not taking anyone's side today - for me it was basically a battle of egos and emotions between JJ. Jodha's Amer-ki-chinta and complete volteface from worrying about Jalaal triggered him to call her an enemy who hates him and is the same as 'aasteen ka saanp' and a stranger too. And Jalaal's royal bashing triggered Jodha into calling him an unloved emperor who has no trust on anyone. And no, the fight did not end well. Jalaal warned Jodha against ever committing a crime of taking pity on him and Jodha walked off without giving a Rajputana retort.

Jalaal had hoped that Jodha will admit at least at this point that she cares about him. Jodha did not expect Jalaal to count her as a stranger , an enemy , a hater. The first part didn't happen. The second one did happen.

As for Jodha's 'Amer-ki-chintaa', i don't know about you, but for me its utter bullcrap. There is enough of Jodha that we have seen to know that she wouldn't take anything happening to Jalaal. The most random proofs being Jodha noticing his untended wounds and commanding him to take off his clothes or even better , Jodha running out in worry on Jalaal's small joke that soldiers have attacked him. That is why Jodha's first dialogue to Jalaal today starts with the worried mention of the boating attack ... because the writers want you and Jalaal to know that Jodha's worry is foremost about Jalaal as the boatride had nothing to do with Amer, Baapusaa, Sukanya. The question that Jalaal keeps asking Jodha will gets its answer - and i am afraid the answer will come with proof. Somehow, Cheapuddin's ( Credit: Ambrosia ) assertion -" Aglaa waar khaali nahiin jaayega" gives you bad feelers that the sword of betrayal is gonna drop again , but not on Jalaal. Its gonna be Jodha.

I don't blame Jalaal for all the cross words and lashings he gave Jodha. He was already so disturbed and pained and Jodha's memorized refusal did throw him off the edge. And Jalaal said nothing wrong except calling her an enemy in a twisted roundabout way.

To Jodha, i will give credit for just one thing. She was honest enough to admit and confess that her head is too unsteady to take the weight of a crown and the responsibilities it brings along.

For the rest, the only other scenes worth watching were the following:

1. Bharmal's genuine and angry worry that Jalaal's life was attacked upon. He cares very much about Jalaal and he is proud of his brave son-in-law.

2. Hameeda giving a royal wash to Maaham without raising her voice - Zubaan aur teer kaabu mein honne chaahiye, Maaham.

3. The Amer fangirling over Jalaal. Adorable.


Oh, my first question to you again, Jodha. Ittne bade bhaashan mein ye 'prem' kahaan se beech meinn aa gayaa? Calling Shahenshah's life a lonely golden cage was enough. Why do you keep harping on this pyaar-mohabbat waala question? Jungle mein bhi pooccha tha aur aaj Amer mein bhi poocch liyaa...*confused munnh*

And the last bit is also for you, Jodha Beghum. Telling you once again what Shaguni had said once and what Jalaal said today:

"Bhaagya apnaa yodha khud chuntaa hai."

Jalaal has realized he is the chosen one . And you shall soon realize that so are you.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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superb post 😳 👍🏼
not to much to say but m really pissed off with jo's behaviour...Her husband shud be her 1st priority but then Amer comes in its way...She was giving her lectures in a serious tone .a tone which is not at all appreciable for a Queen to start with.. Jalal is so hurt..he has no word to say after dis but just to show his authority he lastly said dont ever try to have pity on me kismat hame chunti h mai kismat k nai chunta...as u sugested its a underlying meaning which she will realize much later.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sunshine_sun

superb post 😳 👍🏼
not to much to say but m really pissed off with jo's behaviour...Her husband shud be her 1st priority but then Amer comes in its way...She was giving her lectures in a serious tone .a tone which is not at all appreciable for a Queen to start with.. Jalal is so hurt..he has no word to say after dis but just to show his authority he lastly said dont ever try to have pity on me kismat hame chunti h mai kismat k nai chunta...as u sugested its a underlying meaning which she will realize much later.


Thank you. I am nobody to comment on your POV. Jodha'a care for Jalaal is limited to actions and impromptu words because that is developing in her subconscious mind, At the same time, one should not negate that its her family we are talking about whom she loves CONSCIOUSLY. Similarly. Jalaal was justified in whatever he said and did because he is no superhuman - aur waise bhi kittne dinon ke baad maukaa milaa use Jodha ki band bajaane ka. 😆

As for tone. Jodha need not behave like a queen and Jalaal need not behave like a king within four walls.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Jodha really annoyed me today...jab aap himmat karke sach nahi bol sakte toh kuch bhi nahi bolna chahiye...he did not ask to be attacked and he knows his lifestyle has pitfalls...he was a teenager wheh he took the throne...jis umra mein apne Qiley ki chaar deewaari mein talwaarbaazi seekhne ka waqt tha...tab maidan-e-jung mein shamsheer uthani padi...
And what's more annoying is that Jalaal lets it all go so easily...abhi gussaa tha and now he wants to see his begum dance...and isko dekho...ek mauka nahi jaane deti hai taana maarne ka...begum hai ya saas...I get confused😆

Awesome post
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Very nice post ...loved it ...yeah Jodha got her answer...she was confirming from Jalal abt his love equation with other begum esp Ruku...she asked it again to listen wether he says no jodha begum Ruku loves me like anything...but when he said nothing she was like yes yes yes !!! Now she will show n shower her love on him ...hehehehe 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Good and perceptive post..

She cares for him.. right.. But she was plain mean and ridiculous today.. I have no idea why Jalal even likes her.. she is totally not worth it. Even a stranger would have shown more concern. It seemed to me that she was deliberately being more bitchy.

It further made no sense to me that Jalal puts all his worries aside and decides to chase jodha.. seriously.. what the hell.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: starsinmyeyes

Jodha really annoyed me today...jab aap himmat karke sach nahi bol sakte toh kuch bhi nahi bolna chahiye...he did not ask to be attacked and he knows his lifestyle has pitfalls...he was a teenager wheh he took the throne...jis umra mein apne Qiley ki chaar deewaari mein talwaarbaazi seekhne ka waqt tha...tab maidan-e-jung mein shamsheer uthani padi...

And what's more annoying is that Jalaal lets it all go so easily...abhi gussaa tha and now he wants to see his begum dance...and isko dekho...ek mauka nahi jaane deti hai taana maarne ka...begum hai ya saas...I get confused😆

Awesome post


Thank you. 😆... Jodha had to be annoyed and annoying. Jalaal ki chintaa na karne ki punishment jo milli thi ussko. Jalaal ne ittni jalee-katti sunaayi , especially the trust factor , that Jodha's lid also blew off and she called him lonely and unloved who does not trust anyone.

Instead of getting pissed off with Jodha , one needs to see the triggers and needles in the conversation from both the sides.

Jalaal maybe besotted with Jodha but as he says " Hum Shahenshah hain". Jodha kaun sa taane maarke aur munnh phulaa ke bacch jaati hai? Jalaal soot samet sab waapis kar detaa hai.🤣
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: affableana

Very nice post ...loved it ...yeah Jodha got her answer...she was confirming from Jalal abt his love equation with other begum esp Ruku...she asked it again to listen wether he says no jodha begum Ruku loves me like anything...but when he said nothing she was like yes yes yes !!! Now she will show n shower her love on him ...hehehehe 😆


Thank you!😆... this is the cutest reply and it made me think of another question for Jodha Beghum... issko kaise pataa ki Jalaal Ruqqu se pyar nahin kartaa and Ruqqu sirf apne aap se pyaar kartee hai?🤣
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Posted: 11 years ago
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all i can say is there is a reason why cvs are taking jodha this way ...i agree with you ,the next vaar on jalal it will be jodha who will take it and that would exactly answer the one question he has been asking in every episode ..aapko hamari fikr nahi hai ???

there is a reason for this excessive repetition of the same dialogue and the same response...

and the rest...i too do not blame either...tell me if it was jodha who had asked jalal if he cared about her ,what exactly would he tell her??? his reasoning for rescuing her ,coming to Amer are more or less the same that jodha keeps on saying ...mughal sultanat ki izzat ,and jodha is stuck to Amer ki izzat...he has told her on her face he hates her ...why should she tell him she cares only to be laughed back at...she is a standing joke between him and ruqaiyya ...love is a joke for him ,he has no heart and will never have one as per him...so why does it matter to him what jodha thinks ,does or whom she cares about...

if he is not capable of loving why on earth does he want her to care for him...does not ruqaiyya and MA do the same for him..care for him ???

he has questions for jodha ,the answers of which he himself does not have but he is expecting jodha to give it to him ...

jalal is caught in his own web of pretence and denial and jodha is caught in her own web of emotions and feelings she refuses to acknowledge...

and why are people surprised at her ..she is the same as she was a day back ,,now if she would have been polite and teary eyed and civil to him ..then i can understand the shock 😆

and just look at the precap even after all this jallu miyya cannnot stop himself from doing chichorapan 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MoronsKiMallika


Thank you. 😆... Jodha had to be annoyed and annoying. Jalaal ki chintaa na karne ki punishment jo milli thi ussko. Jalaal ne ittni jalee-katti sunaayi , especially the trust factor , that Jodha's lid also blew off and she called him lonely and unloved who does not trust anyone.

Instead of getting pissed off with Jodha , one needs to see the triggers and needles in the conversation from both the sides.

Jalaal maybe besotted with Jodha but as he says " Hum Shahenshah hain". Jodha kaun sa taane maarke aur munnh phulaa ke bacch jaati hai? Jalaal soot samet sab waapis kar detaa hai.🤣


Aur Jalal ki isi ada pe hum fida hain😳

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