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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MoronsKiMallika


Thank you. I am nobody to comment on your POV. Jodha'a care for Jalaal is limited to actions and impromptu words because that is developing in her subconscious mind, At the same time, one should not negate that its her family we are talking about whom she loves CONSCIOUSLY. Similarly. Jalaal was justified in whatever he said and did because he is no superhuman - aur waise bhi kittne dinon ke baad maukaa milaa use Jodha ki band bajaane ka. 😆

As for tone. Jodha need not behave like a queen and Jalaal need not behave like a king within four walls.

yes agreed they need not to be king n queen within four walls but one shud be humane...as its is jalal is so worried..after all he is a human being yehan pe she started her lectures..😡 n yes jalal has to give her back kab tak sunega uski bhashan...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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An awesome and neutral post Vicky.
I thought today that Jodha genuinely cares for Jalal but she isnt masking it...she is using her taunts to somehow shield it.It was again a verbal showdown between the two.If anyone of them them takes the step into that right direction of showing some progression,the other one makes either a snide or egotistic remark that takes him a step back.
Jalal was in a dilemma today and i thought Jodha would help him but she only made things worst.
I feel that she was hurt to know that Jalal still considers her his enemy,his hater so she lashes out on him.You say i hate you well FYI no one loves you.It was an emotional upheaval of two hot heads each trying to one up the other.Jodha was quick to say she doesnt hate him but pity him.I will commend her for her honesty but Jalal doesnt want her pity,he wants her love,her advice,her care.
I guess each of them have their own way of showing how much they care for others.I am glad that Jalal even wanted to seek advice to Jodha.He allowed her to walk in his shoes and just for a couple of seconds experience the weight on the shoulders of an Emperor but even she couldnt do that.
For Jodha to understand Jalal she doesnt need to see/hear about what he does...she has to walk,breathe and live like him as an emperor but most importantly how his position affects his life as a normal human being.
I for one am glad that these two an get over an argument that fast and be completely normal with each other.
Next scene wail Jalal going to watch Jodha dancing was an example of how they can have a normal and healthy relationship.They dnt let the bad blood between them ruin their ideas of fun.😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nice post Vicky...was waiting for your post to see if I can be less angry with Jo😆
I don't know what to say anymore when it comes to Jodha!! She was exceptionally rude today...such hurtful words cannot be justified yaar..
If she can't ask him how he is after an attack on his life(which a normal person would do even in case of a stranger) the least she could have done was cut down her hurtful words...The 'Nobody loves you' comment was the limit !!! No need to be nice to him or sweet, but why the need to be so hurtful?It showed in his eyes how hurt he was😭
And after all this...I felt like slapping Jalal in the last scene!Seriously,running behind Jo after all this?? These two are unbelieveable😡😆😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@sunny.. hmm it would make more sense if she shields him next time he is attacked
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose


Good and perceptive post..

She cares for him.. right.. But she was plain mean and ridiculous today.. I have no idea why Jalal even likes her.. she is totally not worth it. Even a stranger would have shown more concern. It seemed to me that she was deliberately being more bitchy.

It further made no sense to me that Jalal puts all his worries aside and decides to chase jodha.. seriously.. what the hell.


Thanks Alakh. If Jodha was mean and ridiculous, so was Jalaal in response to her uncaring statement of course in which she couldn't have said that she cares about him.😆... I am amazed that why is not anyone weighing Jalaal's words at all which he said in a fit of emotional fury. He categorized her as an enemy who was willing to take his life or was one of them. And of course, after that ,she was deliberately being more bitchy.

Jalaal going back to chase Jodha looks like a scene jerk but this has happened before, They fight and then behave normal till the next fight.

As for why Jalaal even likes Jodha, the answer is very very simple and i don't even need to mention the love angle. If someone fought tooth and nail to keep me alive when she/he had no need to , i would definitely like that person.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Heya mallika... ! I am a secret admirer and urge my closet friends to read your takes! 😆 I love the sarcasm you bring along! 🤗
I guess I chose a wrong day but I am pissed with the episode and how Jodha is shaping up! Sigh! 😳
Ok I will CP my review from the discussion thread! will try more days in future too! 😊
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"Hum kismat nahi chunte, kismat Hume chunti hai " 👏

Thank you Jalal ! You give back in one line !

Wish you had added " warna hum aapki kismat nahi hote" 😡

Like I had said "fingers crossed" ! As my luck jodha remains to be mule headed !

Does your father never get cheated ?
Does he never get attacked ?
Why do all kings including you father keep bodyguards ?

What a duffer CVs made out of jodha today ! 😵 Like totally W*F dialogues given !
How the heck does she expect him to live a 100% safe life is beyond my valid thoughts lol !

If your father was such a loyal king and people lover (He is ! No doubt) why did sujamal whom u loved and trusted so much do this to him ? Bharmal was unjust to him and sujamal to her and amer by joining Mughals ??

It's just that blatant attitude with which she tramps that her amer life was perfect ! Everyone loves Jo baby and her phamily ! 🤔

The truth is in the rule of nature ! There cannot be more than one ruler ! Be it Jalal of India of lion in the jungle !
Power doesn't come at great heights without nerves of steel ! 🤓

It's a very good debate like u said ! It's the crux of the story ! This clash of ideals- more so between what defines a king and politics !
It's just that the lines she said made no impact to me whatso ever :( !

They make her rant abt honesty , and she blatantly lies abt not caring for him ?

Someone said true that third time is final ! Today many fans got snapped like me when third time she hurts Jalal ! 🥱

Just because jodha has time to become queen they will show her so blind ?! Who doesn't have an ounce of knowledge abt politics ? Jodha is said to be Jalal ki main women consort who controlled his part of business and had exclusive rights no other women in Mughal history had !

They really need to kick start her process of atleast understanding someone ka POV if not agree !

I know it hit home... Jalal felt the pain, but its just the way jodha puts it across! 😕
Then the fact I can not even deny Jalal's analogy of the jungle scene! He was already pissed about Hawai and then Jodha in a way does not even answer his question?!
this is why it is NOT good for me! If this is what Jodha shall be, how can Jalal supposedly turn into Akbar due to HER? 😆 At this point I would say he is better off without Jodha! 😳
And her DAYA! Lulz! Its her whole clan who needs HIS daya warna all of Amer would be in graves!
I would say--- they should have shown this rebuttal in a mellow way! like how she told him in the jungle! and that dialogue she told to her baapusa in intro... Those kings who rule people stay in History! could have been such a subtle scene! and this on she could say with pride too! 😊

OMG! I never gave attention to the Saanp analogy! 🤣
Sorry for such a damn long write up!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#17

Originally posted by: sun29



all i can say is there is a reason why cvs are taking jodha this way ...i agree with you ,the next vaar on jalal it will be jodha who will take it and that would exactly answer the one question he has been asking in every episode ..aapko hamari fikr nahi hai ???

there is a reason for this excessive repetition of the same dialogue and the same response...

Thanks Sunny and its always a relief to speak to someone where i don't have to justify Jodha or Jalaal ( during the 'zindaa jalaa denge phase) - i simply say where their behaviour is coming from. I agree with you that Jalaal will get his answer from Jodha and in such a way that she will not be able to even try and deny that she cares a lot about him. People react to words but they don't see the person in a holistic manner.

and the rest...i too do not blame either...tell me if it was jodha who had asked jalal if he cared about her ,what exactly would he tell her??? his reasoning for rescuing her ,coming to Amer are more or less the same that jodha keeps on saying ...mughal sultanat ki izzat ,and jodha is stuck to Amer ki izzat...he has told her on her face he hates her ...why should she tell him she cares only to be laughed back at...she is a standing joke between him and ruqaiyya ...love is a joke for him ,he has no heart and will never have one as per him...so why does it matter to him what jodha thinks ,does or whom she cares about...

if he is not capable of loving why on earth does he want her to care for him...does not ruqaiyya and MA do the same for him..care for him ???

The answer is pretty simple. All rules , etiquette and emotional code of conduct lectures are for women and not men. I don't know how women think here , but if i loved a man who told me that he married me because he hates me , i would never have the courage to even utter that i care about him. If Jalaal can say that his concern for Jodha is all about 'Mugha Sultanate ki izzat' , Jodha is also hiding behind 'Amer ki chintaa'. How tough is it to decipher such simple emotional defence?

he has questions for jodha ,the answers of which he himself does not have but he is expecting jodha to give it to him ...

jalal is caught in his own web of pretence and denial and jodha is caught in her own web of emotions and feelings she refuses to acknowledge...😆

TRUE.👏

and why are people surprised at her ..she is the same as she was a day back ,,now if she would have been polite and teary eyed and civil to him ..then i can understand the shock 😆

People judge Jodha by their own yardsticks of 'ACCEPTABLE' human behaviour. Jalaal is allowed to be layered , Jodha isn't. Ironically, Jalaal loves these layers only.😆

and just look at the precap even after all this jallu miyya cannnot stop himself from doing chichorapan 😆

🤣

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: starsinmyeyes


Aur Jalal ki isi ada pe hum fida hain😳


Lattoo ki tarah ghoomte rahho tum bas.😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose


@sunny.. hmm it would make more sense if she shields him next time he is attacked


Alakh...it seems possible coz shareef as some plan to get rid of jalal so the attempt ahs not stopped and there has to be a reason why every episode jalal asks her if she cares about him and she says AmerSA AmerSa😆

jodha does not have to spell it out to him ,her one act will show him to the extent she cares for him ..i am falling in love with myself ..kitni romantically positive ho gayee😆😆


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sunshine_sun

yes agreed they need not to be king n queen within four walls but one shud be humane...as its is jalal is so worried..after all he is a human being yehan pe she started her lectures..😡 n yes jalal has to give her back kab tak sunega uski bhashan...


I am not blaming Jalaal for anything and am not blaming Jodha either, Torrid people are like loose cannons.And that's it. 😉

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