Episode 409 Discussion: 22nd Oct 2013

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Episode 409 Discussion: 22nd Oct 2013

Welcome to the Episode discussion thread which we call as Viewer's and Reader's Respite. That's very apt, don't you think ? 😉. And that proves our objective.

Objective behind the thread is
  1. It helps in keeping the forum clean without much litter. People just need to fall in a habit.
  2. We can have it like breathers at first followed by analysis.
  3. It also helps like-minded souls and pals bond and gel together to drop in their thoughts for themselves as breathers and for their friends as a peep into the episode and for others to post their reviews.
  4. And those from different time-zones, who do not get to watch the episode at this time of telecast (Indian 8:30 PM), without any worry to trace or keep track of all their buddy's posts, they can come here, read with leisure and later post their analysis after watching it from their Time zones.

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There are several other social welfare sites that are there to discuss the genuine issues. If for some reason, it is felt that social concerns have to be addressed and ethical and moral responsibility needs to be exercised for watching entertainment, then; certainly the forum is an open place to create separate ATs and build up that kind of propaganda.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Muah, muah...flying kiss to Gavandi for a fantastic episode..👏
Muah, muah...flying kisses to all the EDT writers who have virtually provided fodder for thought, execution, and headlines, mind you👍🏼😆, keep going, girls.

Muah, muah ...to me😳. For once, my prediction for this serial will come true, that RK will lose his cool with madhu😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Ah! A very satisfying episode from beginning till end today 👏 And let me add that there is a thahraav in the episodes lately 👍🏼

First of all, the Karan-Anamika scene was HOT even with all the interruptions ☺️ 😳 😛 What c.h.e.m.i.s.t.r.y!

Mehul Chopra is delighted and why shouldn't he be? This film is a sure shot blockbuster 😆 Free ki publicity Paabho-Dips ne kar di!

Radhaji is understandably shocked to see the scene being filmed. Even though she is from a film family and her son is an actor, it is not easy to see one's daughter or daughter-in-law do something like this. I loved how she tried to explain her point to Madhu. She should have ideally spoken to RK but I guess she knows that if he didn't listen to Madhu, then there is no chance he will listen to her. She has hinted to Madhu that she expects her to show RK the right path.

Madhu gets the shock of her life seeing the intimate photographs in the papers and that too with such damning headlines. The comfortable cocoon RK had wrapped her in has suddenly shattered and she can now see the scene as the world would see it in clear light. For RK it is a big annoyance but something that he accepts as a part of an actor's life but for Madhu it is like she has been stripped of her dignity publicly.

Precap - The clash of ideologies and both are right in their own ways.
Edited by ClosetRomantic - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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The episode was fascinating.
  • RM "intimate" scene witnessed by horrified Radhaji. Of course, I was like, hey, all I want to watch is RM - why are they breaking up the shot with the Bhatia women? Having said that, that scene was total paisa vasool.
  • So the leaning into the kiss was precisely that. Leaning in. Cut. Of course Karan carries Anamika to the bed. 😳
  • Radhaji storms off followed by gleeful evil female duo. Dips has taken the pictures she needed to. 😡
  • Radhaji questions Madhu about whether she was able to persuade RK o reconsider the scene. Madhu said that RK was the one who persuaded her nicely. 🤣 Presumably referring to the private lessons in advance. Radhaji gives a confused Madhu a lecture on morality, wife's role and duty etc. Which, truth be told, was not a bad thing.
  • Predictably, the next day, pictures are in the newspaper. Radhaji sees it (after having been conveniently showed it by the duo), is upset, and is cool with Madhu.
  • RM off to the studio, to be met by perturbed crew. They see the newspaper; Madhu is upset, and storms off (to placate Radhaji.) Ok, not just RK or MC. Now Madhu also is going to do "pack-up."
  • In the meantime, MC walks in, and is shown the newspapers (is probably thrilled with the publicity - thats my speculation. Will know tomorrow)
  • Interesting how Radhaji is now starting to have second thoughts about Madhu's filmi career. Perhaps she thought since RK was producing the film, Madhu would have a chaste role.
  • In the meantime, Madhu is totally unprepared for any kind of media intrusion. Today's newspaper article was a rude awakening for her. And her first thought after seeing the newspaper was to rush to placate Radhaji.
  • In contrast, RK is angry at the article, but more from the perspective of wanting to know who the mole was. He, unlike Madhu, is an old hand at having learnt how to deal with unwelcome press.
  • Yesterday, it felt to me that we are really getting to see RK in his professional mode - RK the actor, and RK the producer. Today was the same.
  • Random thought - looks like everyone is suffering loss in brain cells. It's Bittuji's turn. When RK asks how the pictures were taken, should he not have remembered who was on the set at the time?
  • ETA: just realized that Bittuji probably did not see the women - they were behind him.

The Precap: MC is upset with RK for letting his heroine walk off. RK laying down the line with Madhu - he will not let the film suffer. Am looking forward to tomorrow.
Edited by river123 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Purely from a drama perspective, I was quite hooked to the episode today.
Karan-Anamika scene: Beautifully done, Madhu is at ease and RK is thrilled. So the scene is very intimate (more than any RK-Madhu scene, pulling pallu, holding waist, haila, DVD👏). yes, my enjoyment could have been curtailed by the entry of Pabho, Radha and Dipali, who enter and watch the shooting, unnoticed by anyone. But I was thrilled with the intensity of the RM and its juxtaposition with Rji, that is how the scene comes across to an elder in the family. Perrfect combo! Predictably, Dips clicks photos and sends them to the media. Thanks to TRPs, Rji is back in focus, with Pabho pulling strings, backstage.

Rji-Madhu convo - Very necessary, we were starved for this 😆. Rji uses her saas tone, and talks of maan, maryada, izzat. Both of them conveniently forget it is her husband and RK's step father who has made this izzat ka falooda in the first place. And what she said to Mahdu about a wife's duty applies to her as well. Madhu is clueless as to why RJi felt the need to talk to her this way.

Newspaper headlines: RK ne Madhu kaa istamaal kiya, Madhu ka sahara liya, Shudh Desi Sexscene (Chakku...👍🏼, this one's for you). Dipali and Pabho gloat over their success. Pabho closes her eyes and thanks God, is it??? That her scheme worked? ANd Pabho, just for that, DIps ki nazar to lag chuki hai, don't worry, it is a matter of time. Rji is very upset and refuses to talk to Madhu.

At the studio, Bji, Sanchita, Roma are worried. RK-Madhu read the papers and are shocked. RK is furious. Madhu is furious with RK, all her worst fears about exposing their private life to the public have come true. She storms out of the sets, presumably going to placate Rji.

Wow, it was a thrilling episode and for once, I did'nt get the time to think of anything else.
The real problem for RK-Madhu begins now, because their differing priorities will challenge their understanding of each other.
And honestly, a word to all our writers, all our differing viewpoints and POVs were brought out in the episode today. I am happy to be a part of this group. We do count, each one of us..👏



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Posted: 11 years ago
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The headlines put for the photos in the newspapers was the first believable unclunky thing in this track since the point when Mehul came to RK's house and expected to be given complete control of the film RK would produce.
From that point to this, everything else has been sheer clunk - especially the majbooris of producers banning a superstar, a millionaire suddenly at a bank's approval mercy for a paltry loan despite having to pay only an unwanted director and crew who can't command high charges, and clever RK's conveniently staying as idiotically helpless as in the previous track (except when it came to speaking up in defence of his wife).
Only the headlines today - after all these weeks - were believable.
*This* was the way the press should have torn apart RK's film after finding out at the mahurat that the banned superstar had managed to get only a flop-director and his own nonactress wife as heroine for his film.
Not the doting fawning questions they had asked the couple, as if the entire press corps gathered for that mahurat were the couple's paid PR team.
If the press hadn't put out the photos this way as something tawdry but rather as scintillating, that would have been unbelievable. It's not their job to make things better for the film; making the superstar and his wife look embarrassing this way grabs more eyeballs and sells more copy.
The precap was yet again appalling proof that the flop-director is to have everything his way, and is behaving as if he's doing RK a favour.
And RK is being conveniently stupid enough to fall for it and getting Madhu to do what Mehul could not have made her do - whatever Mehul wants, for Mehul's supposedly different story that is stock cliche of umpteen other films of varying box-office fates.
Why has RK not asked Mehul whether this movie will serve RK's interests, or whether Mehul is just getting leads and film at RK's effort and expense when he would get none of it from anyone else? It's hardly as if some film has to be made even if it's no use to RK professionally.
The RK who would have struck effectively at Mehul's weak spot and pointed out that Mehul might never again get a chance to prove himself as a director, since he had been unwanted for 10 years even without being banned... That RK has apparently had funeral rites done. Which is apparently supposedly fine, since he can supposedly be revived from pretty much any point.
But the longer the wait until revival each time, the less enthusiasm in those who are interested less in the actors and the 'different' tracks and more in the couple with half unbutchered.
Radha's reactions were eminently believable. This is a woman who has placed appearances and image first and foremost for so long in her life, letting herself get estranged even from the son she loves most because holding onto him would require her to lose whatever traditional-conservative image she has clung to.
She has fought and plotted only when she was about to lose either her son or her image.
And in manipulation focussed on Madhu, Radha - unlike her sister - has a terrifyingly successful record. Really don't want her turning vamp. Dips is much preferable, always failing.
Edited by leelaa9 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: _charu_


@Zoya, you were talking abt RK balancing his personal and professional life, look bechari Madhu, how many roles does she have to play and in each one of them, she's ordered and lectured what's right for her and what her priority should be..


Charu that is why maine ek hi line mein Madhu ko describe kiya... hamari bechari abla naari kahan phas gayi RK ke chakkar mein. RK nahi toh yeh sab chik-chik nahi uski zindagi mein😆

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Posted: 11 years ago
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It's not about personal comments, it's about generally letting anyone who criticizes feel they shouldn't. Why can't we just acknowledge each other and not pick on differing opinions?
If I can appreciate opinions that are opposite to mine, why can't at least comments about negativity be avoided?
Each person saying what they feel about the episode, and not picking on those who think differently.
It's a fictional track, for heaven sake. I'm not commenting about real people or even about the opinions of real people interacting here.
And people whose opinions are called negative are usually less than eager to post and invite such points.
And asking that this not happen, so you threaten to leave? So the only way is for everyone to unanimously love this track and make only positive comments?
The CVs won't listen to anything here. Otherwise the past several months of tracks wouldn't have got stretched that long. We just write, we can't influence them unless we have a guaranteed assurance of raising TRP by a ton of points. None of us can offer that, just opinions. That's all.
Edited by leelaa9 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Charu, Leelaa, nobody is outta here! 😡

Please girls, lets just stick to the episode discussions here. Disagreements will happen but lets not get too sensitive please 🤗
Edited by ClosetRomantic - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Guys lets just agree to disagree
We are all well wishers of this soap
We might differ in what we might think is good for it
But our intensions are all good

Just lets be more sensitive to other people's choices which we may not like also still

And lets all be respectfull to each other

This is a rocking place
And lets keep it like
Edited by LSPD - 11 years ago

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